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Anyone know where to order a second power supply? I know it's a 330W 19.5V 16.9A power supply, but I can't tell if it's the same as the generic Dell one, or where to order an OEM one.

The dell one for reference:
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Alienwa...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=TBB9STJMSDZNVZH469GW

 

This is just my opinion and my practice, I'm typing this on my 4 year old GT70 for which I have had no problems with. (knock on wood). After a heavy gaming session I let the laptop sit idle for awhile until I hear the fans slow down indicating that the temps are close to or near idle. It's how I treat any machine that I operate, for engines large and small there are physical reasons for doing this that have to do with the expansion of metals etc. Our heat sinks are metal so I figure it can't hurt to do this and having the heat dissipated before shutdown can't hurt. I also feel that the less time I put on the parts the longer they will last.

Now if you are asking about how it effects Windows I remember reading that it's OK to go a week without a cold boot but that was years ago so I'm not sure.

 

The only time I ever saw line like that were on a monitor that had a bad backlit, so maybe the Gsync hardware is bad. Boy two bad apples in a row. I'm sorry to hear about that.

 

I know right? Talk about luck. However out of frustration I did a system reset via the built in MSI reset option and to my surprise, a full day of gaming and no issues as far as I can tell. G-Sync is running as it should, running on the desktop nvidia drivers not notebook, and 3dmark scores are higher than average.

Hopefully it remains this way honestly this laptop is great its just I have been really unlucky with this lol.

 

Glad it's working for you again! Hope it keeps it up. Mine is supposed to ship Thursday or Friday. Can't wait to get my hands on it. Now I just have to worry about UPS playing football with the box.

 

I'm happy to hear this, I was about to reply to an early post of your's suggesting it could be Windows 10 state (update sync level) + Nvidia drivers.

As I have seen several reports like this which initially sound like flaky GPU / display hardware.

Fortunately your experience is typical, a software fix like a complete reset, and using older Nvidia drivers works.

I know you can't control Windows Updates, but watch for updates that start this problem up again, and regress and block that update - IDK how long that works, but it's a start.

You can also watch for "beta" Nvidia drivers, sometimes early fixes that work don't get into the main line for a while (WHQL), and that might work too.

Glad to hear it's running well for you now.

 

FYI On the topic of video cards, talked with Ken and it turns out there is an empty video card slot on the Mobo. Sooo theoretically one could do SLI when they release the card!

 

Thanks for all the kind words guys, definitely glad its in working condition now. Hoping it stays that way its definitely a beast of a performer!

Maybe with 1070, a all the SLI 1080 laptops I've seen use two power adapters.

 

Follow up tear down video...

 

I was able to OC my 6820HK with -10mv to 4.1Ghz and reach 1370 XTU Benchmark score without passing 80c

 

Can one of you GT73 owners please do me a favor and try and see if you can save your vBIOS with GPU-Z or of that doesn't work try and save with nvflash.

My GT62 refuses to read the vBIOS with GPUZ or nvflash. It's surprising because my older GE62 with a 970m was able to be read and saved with GPUZ and could be dashed with a custom vBIOS. I have my suspicions that's MSI has locked us out entirely this time around. If that's the case anyone buying a GTX 1060 will be SOL of they decided to swap in a 1070 down the road and thereby rendering MXM design totally and utterly useless.

The system BIOS cannot be read either. It's like they purposely locked us out this time.

 

Disregard. Prema got me straightened out and using the version of Nvflash he sent me I was able to read the vbios and sent him a copy. Big relief as this means it should be possible to unlock the voltage and power limit controls and really utilize the excellent cooling on these laptops. Also means anyone that buys a GTX 1060 today SHOULD be able to upgrade to a 1070 in the future if cards are available as MSI 1070s don't have an additional power cable that I have seen.

 

Does anyone know if the finned heat sink for the PCIe slots comes with all models or only with the models that have a RAID setup?

 

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Thanks

 

Can anyone post a firestrike score and temps with the hk at 4ghz and 1080gpu?

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I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a GT73VR-017. I want to order form Newegg to use the 0% interest on my account but it doesn't specifically say Gsync. Has anyone gotten their hands on one from Newegg?

 

I ordered one from them 2 days ago. I will check it when it arrives. All the GT73 models should have G-sync capabilities

 

Are you sure about the g-sync?

 

Newegg says it's G-Sync.

The one I ordered from GenTechPC is G-Sync.

 

Why would some not have G-Sync, when it's the same exact laptop, with the same exact screen?

 

That is a good question, and as I shop around the only place it states Gsync is Gentech.

 

I had the idea that the gt73vr had 3 different screen. A 60hz, a 120hz a 4k one. And we dont even know if these 3 are all the same for every country.
That is why I asked if we know for a fact that they are all g-sync.

I guess it makes sense they are. They sourced the best ones for the higher series and left the normal ones for the gt72 and gs/ge series. But its good to be sure as I've seen the gt73vr on sale in europe without g-sync as an announced feature.

 

Hi. Someone with the GT73VR with i7 6820hk and gtx 1070 can put here the temps of the cpu and gpu during game, and also the fans speed?
Im thinking between this model and the Asus G752Vs. I dont will overclock to much, only use sport mode, or the cpu in 3.8 Ghz. Thanks

 

I'd pick the MSI anyway, since I think ASUS only have a 75hz monitor(can OC to 100hz). But the ms is around 30+ avarage, and the MSI monitor is 120hz native and around 10+ avarage.

 

So I have an interesting problem with my laptop.

GT73 1080 gsync. If I cold boot I get absolutely awful fps in games, but ONLY on a cold boot. If I then restart it, the fps goes back to normal.

So cold boot = poor fps. Warm boot = correct fps. I've tried the MSI supplied Nvidia drivers, the latest NVidia drivers and nothing seems to work.

Any clues?

Edit: So it seems that disabling g-sync fixes this problem...

Edit2: Aha! Solved it, I think. Disable fast boot in the BIOS (default is disabled I believe) and disable fast boot in Windows. This allows me to keep gsync on in windowed mode and shutdowns work fine.

 

I had posted this in the GS73VR owners thread by mistake.

I just ordered a GT73VR TITAN-017 from Newegg along with an Intel 600p 256Gb SSD. It will be here tomorrow and I hope to run through some tests with the stock configuration before I replace the SSD and re paste the CPU/GPU. I have a tube of MX-4 and Tuniq TX-2, just got to decide which to use lol.

After reading that certain tests could be bad for laptops I was wondering if someone here could point me to benchmarks and monitoring apps that I could use. It's been over two years since I OCed my desktop and could use some advice.

 

Mine is supposed to be here Thursday and I've had some of the same questions. I haven't overclocked anything since I built desktops 10 years ago. There was one bench marking program that people here warned could be bad for the video card but I can't remember what it was or where I read it.

These are some of the links I emailed myself from things I've read on here.

killer driver http://www.killernetworking.com/product-support/driver-downloads/standard-drivers/item/drivers-only
afterburner https://gaming.msi.com/features/afterburner
XTU https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-
Gpuz https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
hwinfo https://www.hwinfo.com/download.php
hwmonitor http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
3D Mark http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/3dmark_download.html

 

That's good, I discovered many of those today myself, I also found these two for bench marking. I want to test this machine out in it's stock configuration before touching anything else. This will make a return easier and give me a reference to see if the upgrades I perform are worth it.

https://unigine.com/
https://www.attotech.com/disk-benchmark/

It's supposed to be on the delivery truck at this very moment.

 

Only thing I would say is don't bother to use the killer driver.

It's just not worth it. The generic ones that come with Win10 have never ever crashed for me whereas the ones from Killer are just plain awful at everything. Occasionally they put out a driver that isn't 100% awful but I'm tired of trial and error I guess lol.

Plus with the generic drivers I don't have to go and disable all the QOS crap that never ever works like it should and instead just limits my download rate because the wind outside changed direction.

The benchmarking program that people warn against using is Furmark.

 

Thanks. I had read the main problem with Killer was their software suite.

 

That's their biggest problem but I've also had more crashes and dropped packets from using their drivers as well which is why I don't bother with them anymore.

At their core their hardware is just a rebadged Qualcomm Atheros chip which is what the generic windows drivers are for and that just works. The only real thing killer does is throw on a bunch of software and firmware crap that they think gamers will just love but really 99.99% of people don't give a **** about lol.

Oh and then spend their entire yearly budget on advertising.

 

Got mine today from Multicom.

Can confirm g-sync!
So far the only issue I have is the idle temp on cpu, beeing 60+.
Some undervoltage and repaste will solve the issue.

 

It looks as though NewEgg took too long to send the laptop out so it will be here tomorrow, hopefully, and I will get my $100.00 back. I don't really use them much anymore and they definitely don't seem to be a good as the use to be.

At least I got the SSD.

 

Sorry Duke. I know you are anxious to get it. So am I. I've spent a lot of money at NewEgg over the years. Their return policy ain't what it used to be either. I do most of my shopping on Amazon now.

 

OK after a week with my replacement unit. All seems well. Turbo mode does cause the pc to lock up after very long hours of gaming and I've narrowed it to the overclock on the cpu. Turbo keeps it at 4.0ghz I brought it down to 3.9 and I haven't seen a single lock up so far.

Screen is the best thing on this laptop, 120hz gsync makes 1080p gaming worth it again. (Haven't gamed in 1080p in over 3 years lol).

I have to state again that the 1080 is a beast especially at 1080p

If anyone here has any questions I'll be glad to answer them.

 

Glad you didn't have to send this one back. How is the heat and fan noise when gaming? How is the viewing angle on the display?

 

Heat management is excellent. Gpu never exceeds 80c and cpu hovers are the high 70s and that's with turbo mode on. I can barely hear the fans when the room is quiet. During gaming I can't hear them at all. You can adjust the fan curve for better cooling and make the fans louder if desired lol.

Viewing angles are also great. In my usage I haven't experienced any issues with viewing angles from your typical seated position for a laptop.

 

Lol, Xmass in Sept. is ruined. I normally would not pay for the expedited shipping but I have a lot stuff before I leave on a trip Friday, and I wasted a bit today. I have built 10 machines and %99 of the parts have come form NewEgg, usually because of the zero percent financing but my last thee purchases have had at least one hiccup.

I'll be reading all the reports until then getting ready.

 

First 3d Mark Score Fire Strike: Turbo ON: 14149

Man, this computer is near dead silent on turbo mode and fans on auto.
And this screen, jebus, it`s my first screen with ZERO backlight bleed, I mean, come on! ZERO!
How awesome is that!

Cons so far for me:
- I`m used to AW and Clevo keyboard, and while this keyboard is ok+ to type on, I dislike the lightning.
Rather have the glow true the letter-keys than around it like a glowing halo effect. I also dislike the layout of the keyboard. Big left shift + smal enter is not common Norwegian style. But hey, I can get used to it.
- Warranty if I`d like to add SSD etc, warranty is poor!
- All the malware, Clean window install inc

Seriously, silent gaming, good performance, the best screen, and some cool msi features.
So far great!

Edit:
I`d like to add that 1070 gives rly great value. With boost OC active it performs just as a FE 1070 desktop. Just wow!

 

I am considering the GT73VR 6RF-035UK with single 1080, can anyone tell me how this stacks up against the GT73VR 6RE-064UK (SLI 1070) just wondering whether its best to go with a single 1080 or pay the extra and go with dual 1070s.

 

I went with a single 1080 and this is because of my recent experiences with sli support. I have had sli systems since 2008. My main desktop has three titan x's (maxwell) in tri sli.

The thing is nvidia and developers have been slacking off like crazy when it comes to sli support in the latest games. Warhammer total war, just cause 3, doom, Anno 2205, Warhammer Vermentide, etc. And games that do end up supporting sli at launch have issues with performance most of the time (the division sli support at launch was horrid, same for far cry primal).

It is because of this that I decided on a single 1080. When sli works you will be getting better performance with dual 1070s, when it doesn't (which from experience is most of the time) you won't.

Also if you plan on going for the 1080p screen you don't need sli, even a single 1080 is overkill for that resolution but it will make your laptop last longer. If you get the 4k screen even sli 1070s won't be enough for 60fps max settings on all games.

Just my 2 cents.

 

MSI GT73VR NVIDIA GTX 1080 Review & Benchmarks


The Fire Strike test compared to the result for the 1070 posted above at 14149, the 1080 result is only about 8% faster at 15,261.

Of course, setup and tuning of both laptops for best performance would put them more on even ground for comparison.

In this comparison the 1070 is an average of 17% slower than the 1080 in 1080p.

 

Thanks for the information, single 1080 it is then I was leaning more towards the single 1080. Only things I will change is perhaps removed the mechanical HDD and replace it with a 2TB samsung that I have.

 

With Turbo ON and Fan: Cooler boost(I guess that`s what the right sided button activates)
Score: 14295
- link: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10158570

Edit:
Everything is at stock, haven`t repasted or undervolted or overvolted yet.
My goal is to undervolt both cpu and gpu, and still perform at stock speeds or close to turbo.
I`m a happy silent gamer!

 

Impressive stats, so yours is a 1070 according to 3Dmark?

 

Here is my 3dmark run with turbo mode on and no adjustments on the fan speed for anyone who is interested in a gtx 1080 score.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10074725

 

Asking me? Well I hope soo.. I have a 1070! =p

 

Nice scores guys, how were your temps and fan speeds/noise?

I can't wait to post mine later.

 

How much of that is CPU bottlenecking? The 1080 has 25% more cores than the 1070 mobile version, and comparable clocks. It should at least be 20% faster.

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