***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

I haven't purchased from GentechPC, or any of the other boutique shops, so I don't know what their policies are today, or for this laptop.

You can check around, ask - let them know what your concerns are, and work it out with them.

Maybe for you it's worth the 10-15% restocking fee to have a chance to evaluate the performance for yourself

 

Haha even myself... Being prepared to drop over 4k... Doesn't want a 400+ dollar restocking fee! Man would that be a bittersweet trial period. I have to say this is a very tough decision to make... Funny thing is this is totally opposite of what I was originally waiting for. The Aorus x7 DT. Went from slim to beast... No matter what I do.

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In the face of a $705 (15% of $4699) return fee, that 10-15% better CPU performance won't seem that important

 

If you said you worked for MSI... I wouldn't even challenge that statement!!

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Nah, I don't work for MSI, or Asus, or Clevo, or any other PC company.

Only trying to help a fellow enthusiast

 

Nope I'm talking about if they shift to MXM your laptop becomes obsolete.

Well the mobo that runs it will. Like I said I would like more info on what will change because no one knows.

The 072 is the top of the line maxed out newest laptop you can get right now. Nothing out there has what this thing has on it.

 

Sorry for the ignorance but can you explain exactly the difference between the clevo with the 6700k and the msi with the 6920hq and desktop gpu? I feel like I am not fully understanding!

 

Damn, to think I was about to go on a really long rant about MSI lol.

The short answer is MSI might have better sound package, bigger screen and SLI GTX 980s.

The Sager/Clevos have basically the same tech internally, bigger chassis for a bit better airflow.


Processors wise we are both screwed as I keep reading Skylake is a joke compared to the 4th Gens with clock speeds and boost.

Even worst the only real change is the 2watt difference in power and an extra 2 or 3MB on the cache size.... Then they have lower clocks.
It's like others have said they are going backwards !

At the end of the day it's going to boil down to preference and whoever has the best customer service if you need it lol.

Personally I think the MSI 072 is great, so yeah I know not much help.

 

No surprise here, since MXM & Desktop GPU are not the same thing thus why the pinouts are also different.

 

Why do you say Skylake is a joke? I was reading I think Mr. Fox was at like 4.8-5ghz OC on his 6700k Clevo. That's nucking futs! If I read that thread correctly, haha.

 

Oh that's the Q series I meant. The K series will OC of course. Will it hit 5GHZ ? Who knows ha-ha.

 

Remember that even a mobile haswell is enough to power a titan-x while gaming, so while they may not be tweakable the Q series is no joke.

 

From 4.1ghz clock to 4.8ghz clock it's a 17% improvement. And, his wprime score is 15% higher than my 5950HQ at 4.1ghz.

That is also a 100%+ doubling of power usage from 45w to 95w...

That's nice, and if you want CPU improvement specifically then maybe that is what you need to get for what you want to do.

For gaming a 15% improvement in CPU performance isn't going to get many/any fps improvement in most games that are GPU intensive, and not blocked by CPU.

The difference between 980m SLI and 980 SLI will be about 35%, which for most games is going to be what you want to see improve

 

Exactly, while control is nice, I think there has been a bit of hysteria going around regarding the CPU.

 

If only there was a 980 sli with the 6700k then I would have everything I need.. desktop cpu and gpu's!! All in a laptop.. exactly what I need

 

They won't give us that combo because there are people crazy enough to push it so far that they will blow up their computer lol.

Plus as I keep saying ha-ha , we only get something like 300-330W power supplies and you gonna need more power to overclocked a 6700K with the 980s.

Funny thing is even if we were given bigger power bricks the laptop wouldn't be able to get rid of the heat fast enough.

 

And, a 750w power adapter to run it all

We have reached the limits of a single 330w power supply, and idk about you but it seems a bit unwieldy to plug in 2 power adapters + coupler / cables to get full performance out of my laptop. Not to mention the $400 cost.

Sure, you can run with only 1 330w power supply at reduced performance, but what's the point of paying for all that extra performance if you don't use it all the time?

It's possible MSI will pull of a single 330w power supply version by keeping the CPU at 45w instead of using the 6700k at 95w. But, still, reaching the top OC might still need more power than 1 330w power supply.

A future Clevo with a 95w CPU and 2 x 180w 980's will certainly require 2x 330w, or even 2x 550w power adapters.

It will be fun to find out how MSI and Clevo work out the power requirements over the next year leading up to SLI Pascal

 

One way to do it is to rid your laptop of mechanical drives as SSDs use a lot less power to run them.

I bet even removing the optical drive will help, but I need that and so do a lot of others

 

Hi
I bought msi gt80s ..
I was wondering what should I do when I first get it ? Should I install any programs or any thing ?
And what temperatures are okay when gaming for both cpu and gpu ?
Since it comes with windows 10 , am I going to have any problems with it ?

I will appreciate the help please.

 

Sony 850C (I think it's the 60 inch model)

 

Yes that's 60hz maximum, you will need a DP to HDMI 2.0 adapter to hook it straight in and run 4k 60hz, you should be able to get 4k 30hz from your HDMI.

 

So I can't have 3D? I read somewhere it's possible to feed 2 HDMI into a tv... Is this supported?

 

What about the usb c port?

 

Would it be able to do 3D at 30 hz in 4k with a gt80?

 

I'm not sure any content even uses that mason, if you were planning on gaming I would avoid it.

 

? I don't understand?

 

Damn son, I hope you don't believe gaming is feasible over a 30hz refresh rate and that's if you are going to play shooters or something.

I mean it will look good, but is gonna be worth it? Good luck man, I hope you figure it out.

An "Old Fashion" 1080P 120hz 27" Monitor is good enough for me man!

 

MSI Is now listing the 072 on their U.S. site, so they must be here.

 

What do you think i get on my razer blade pro? lol u get used to it. My friend plays WOT at 7fps on his "toaster" -- its feasible

 

And he has a really good win rate too!

 

Where can I find the drivers for MSI GT80S 002 ? It's not listed in their site :/

 

The USA site still has nothing but Desktop Help showing, but the Global site now has up the GT80S drivers for Windows 10:

http://www.msi.com/product/notebook/support/GT80S-6QE-Titan-SLI.html

Those Windows 10 install packages should work for Windows 8.1 installs as well, but if not, you can use the previous generation download, I picked Broadwell 980m SLI on the USA site for this link:

http://us.msi.com/product/notebook/support/GT80-Titan-SLI-GTX-980M-SLI-5.html

 

Okay, guys/gals....

I've been doing a lot of thinking here. As you may have read in earlier posts, I am very seriously contemplating on getting the MSI GT80S Titan SLI-072 laptop. However, now I am thinking of just getting a desktop as I have upped the amount of money I will be spending fro $6,000 US dollars to $9,000 US dollars. Having said that, however, I wouldn't even know where to start on what desktop to buy/get that I could customize. XOTICPC has some good ones to pick from by the looks of it. This would include a monitor.

The only reason I thought about getting a laptop was because i like to sit on my awesome recliner while I have my TV on (a chicago cub game, for example, lol) and have my gaming in front of me at the same time.....on my lap. However, I just wouldn't know how to do it. Hahaha..

I know this may be off topic here, but any help in deciding would be appreciated.

 

Vulcan4, first off, awesome, second - you don't need to spend that much money...

Start out with just the laptop at retail. If you are near Microcenter, Fry's, BestBuy, ask them to special order the GT80S for you.

And, don't get any custom work done to it - that's where the price runs away.

The laptop should be great out of the box from MSI, you will have enough storage to load games and the stock paste is more than good enough for 99% of the people.

Once you start doing custom paste, you have to redo it every 4-6-12 months - if you are OCD and single digit temperature increases bug you perhaps more often. Unless you are a dedicated enthusiast it's not a good idea to get on board that train.

Also, this laptop isn't going to fit in your lap...

It's too big to start, and the keyboard is all the way to the front edge, so you aren't going to be able to skootch your arms back enough to fit your hands for typing.

I would set it on a solid tray/table next to you and use a wireless keyboard/trackpad.

And, hook it up to your 4k TV for viewing.

If you aren't already heavily in to gaming, and just want a cool fast gaming laptop, you can drop down from the SLI 980 to a SLI 980m and save $1200. But, if you want to drive that 4k TV for gaming, stick with the SLI 980, just don't load it up with stuff to start.

You can always wait for prices of DDR4 and NVME storage to drop, and for reliability / performance to be attained - might take new versions of the drives/memory before that happens. Save money now and don't get stuck with 1st generation parts...

Please come back and let us know how it works out

 

That's just it....

I have the ther money to get the top MSI Titan money can buy (and tit's what I want too), but it doesn't come with a 4k screen!! After all that money and still no 4k screen, that's a bit disappointing to be honest. I guess I could always get a 4k monitor...., but then why even have a laptop. =/ Ehh....i don't know!!! lolololol...

 

It's the conundrum of our times, we have 4k screens, but not enough GPU power to drive them while gaming AAA titles.

The AAA titles even with 980 SLI won't drive them 60 fps, mostly 40 fps - sometimes worse.

You can drop eye candy and then get better frame rates, but that looks even worse on a 4k screen than a 1k screen, the high resolution is less forgiving.

So the best choice for high frame rate gaming is still 1080p. That likely won't change even with SLI Pascal, but it might get close enough.

Right now I run games vsync at 100 fps with custom 100hz refresh set on the GT80 1080p internal display, and it looks great.

You can also invoke DSR and run at 2x native screen down sampled to 1080p, and for some titles that works great - but we can only do that because there is enough excess processing available down at 1080p final display resolution.

If you want to run AAA titles today, you want an internal 1080p screen, not 4k.

 

You're better off getting the laptop and going with a gaming 4K monitor than a TV anyways. To me anything over 30" is nuts lol. Seeing as you probably want to use your entire wall lol... Good luck with whatever you choose .

 

does this also apply to clu?

 

Also Why hook up to 4k when Oculus costs under $350?

 

What have I been saying for months / years? It's not worth re-pasting.

It's awesome, but not a replacement for a big screen TV.

 

Doesn't clu not need to be re-pasted though?
If i need it re-pasted at any point in time i can take it to the custom computer shop (if it still exists) that customizes Clevos in Houston... how often does clu usually need re-pasting? Once a year?

 

I wouldn't trust anyone else but myself to put CLU into my laptop.

Unless you are ready to learn how to do it yourself, I wouldn't change to it.

Reports say anything from 8 months to a year, but that was after temp increases were noticed, so I guess every 6 months I would change CLU / CLP before it hardens enough to need scraping off with a knife

Check out the blobs...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermal-paste-performance-benchmark,3616-3.html

Spoiler

"Applying the compound is tricky, which is why we don't really recommend Liquid Pro. Liquid Ultra is a little more like the pastes you're used to, though still a lot "wetter". Its composition is still a point of concern because it corrodes light metals like aluminum and certain alloys. This could have an adverse effect on thermal conductivity, even causing an insulating layer to form. Copper- and nickel-plated surfaces are alright though, as are heat spreaders."

"Asked whether the 1.5 °C ΔT, which the Liquid Ultra holds over Gelid's GC-Extreme with a closed-loop cooler, or the 2.7 °C ΔT, which it does in the boxed cooler test, are worth extra effort and cost, my personal answer is no. But of course, some enthusiasts swear by the liquid metal. Most folks don't need the stuff; it's really for the overclockers functioning at the very top of their game."

Spoiler

CLU has been reported to solidify, harden, and powder. CLU also globs and spills out causing shorts - sometimes months after original application.

danwat1234 , October 20, 2013 10:03 PM
"Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra isn't all that good after a year of hard use. In fact, it completely hardens / dries. On my X9100 after 9 months of nearly 24/7 100% load, I started seeing high temps and after 1 year auto shut downs while crunching. Turns out it was shutting off because it hit the 105 C thermal protection.
Opened it up; thermal compound was as hard as a rock. has to pocket knife blade and sand it down.
So for longevity it sucks. That is something to consider, not just initial performance, but performance months and years down the road. Especially for laptops that aren't designed to be opened up frequently for repasting.

After trying Liquid Ultra many times and having it fail on me, I've put on Arctic MX-2 that has a supposed 8 year durability rating. Initial performance is great, we'll see how it lasts (been 3 weeks so far)."

FYI - MX-2 and MX-4 both pump / dry out, probably quicker than CLU/CLP

Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra thermal compound dries up over time!

Spoiler

Coollaboratory Liquid Pro's Aging Effect - 1 Year on - Does it destroy your CPU?


жидкий металл для процессоров высыхает и прикипает
(liquid metal processors dries up and take a strong liking)


There was a video on youtube that showed CLU / CLP as being liquid after a year - it's hard for me to believe that can happen, as the company itself goes over the life cycle of their product and disclose it hardens and powders.

They go on to say that as long as the heatsink / CPU are mated well CLU / CLP should maintain thermal viability.

Don't let it touch Aluminum

Spoiler

Gallium Induced Failure of a Heat Sink

This looks much safer... and maybe even better longevity... unknown.

Spoiler

Coollaboratory Liquid MetalPad for Notebooks (why only for notebooks...hmmm)

 

If it destroys my CPU the credit card my parents used doubles my warranty ...

 

You will be able to find negative reports on the internet about the best products ever built so don't knock it till you try it. I have used it for several years and it will dry on exposed areas if you use too much but even then its not that difficult to remove and isn't a problem. During this time I have never seen any results that deteriorated after a year or more of use.

 

Hi guys new here first post. Found this thread while researching the gt80s i just purchased. Anyone else bought the GT80s titan SLI-012?

How do you guys like it? how does it run?

Mines shipping by best buy from west to east coast. Should be here in 2 business days!

 

i got the 002 but i don't have it yet

 

Do u guys like my new footer or should i remove it?

 

I wonder if you know how fortunate you are ha-ha.

Never in my life was my hobby ever supported by my family and after my first computer (Pentium 133 , which my mom spent a fortune on) I was on my own and no one taught me anything, was pretty much alone in this venture.

Took me years until I was able to get what I have. The Struggle is real.

 

My mouse just died (Orochi 2013) during finals lol... does anyone know of a good travel mouse like the orochi that will go well with the MSI laptop?

 

Hey, does anybody have an issue on GTA 5 where the screen will flash black for a fraction of a second when shooting any guns? I am on a GT80 Titan SLI-263 and I am using the latest drivers.