***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

I have no idea if it's the power supply that died... I'm gonna test it tonight with a multimeter.

the thing is, before going into another room and leaving it alone to "die", I wasn't doing anything straining it was just on standbye on the desktop.
So, maybe the psu was already dead while I was using it and the battery was draining and then it shut down.

keeping my hopes up... I have no clue how much it might cost me to send it to MSI for repairs if something fried in there. And I'm pissed that the extended warranty expired like 3 weeks ago.

 

When I checked mine, I had crashed last due to testing - BIOS time is longer, and it was listed as 12+ seconds. I did a regular reboot, and it was 6.7 seconds. Then I removed the DVD from the tray and disconnected USB devices, and it is now 3.9 seconds.



I get it, GT80 should boot in 3.9 seconds.
Any idea how I can take my GT80 SLI that boots in 30 seconds to that time?

I have 24GB. Disabling paging as discussed in a previous post had zero effect on booting.

The powercfg /h (*hibernation*) I disabled a long time ago. That had no effect either. So, what good is this information without a credible way to bring down the boot time?

 

That's not the whole startup time, that's the time spent in BIOS POST...before Windows boot starts.

Where are you seeing that 30 seconds displayed?

Did you see all of the images of screen captures of TaskManager Startup showing the reading highlighted? Is that where you are getting the 30 seconds from?

The Fast Startup can affect boot time, not BIOS post time, same for Pagefile if you have a variable sized file - deleting both by disabling both services recovers a lot of space on the C partition which can improve SSD performance.

If you are getting 30 seconds of post time in the BIOS, you either have a buggy firmware in a storage component, or your optical drive has a media disk that is trying to boot.

 

From the time I push the power button to the login screen is 30 seconds.

 

What does the TaskManager show for Post time (as shown in the images I posted)?

As far as 30 second in Windows 10 boot, that seems normal, see the other images I posted from the videos', that's right on normal.

 

Does any one have a Unlocked Bios for this laptop?
I looked at the stock one and most of the features are hidden (not removed but hidden).
Like memory overclocking and temp limit.

 

Even when unlocked many (most?) options aren't functional, but if you want to see what's available, contact Svet for a unlocked / modded BIOS with modding tools, donate as you are able - it's required.

MSI Global English Forum > MSI GAMING > GAMING Notebooks > Private Unofficial Modified BIOS'ses & EC-FW
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=51.0

 

Hello!

I'm a MSI GT80 Titan owner for 3 years now but sadly one day it just stopped working. Long story short, one of the GPU broke down. Problem is, I tried on official service centers to get that part and it costs around 1,034$ for one GTX 980m gpu. That is already the price of a brand new gaming laptop with at least GTX 1050 GPU(desktop grade not "M") which is basically faster than my titan.

Question is where can I get a cheaper bnew/used gtx 980m?(I live in the Philippines) Also, how can I run it with only one 980m? Cause does not power up at all when the defective 980m is inserted but it runs when it is removed(intel gpu only is detected not the single 980m). Thank you!

 

Switch the position of the 980m's and then remove the bad one. If the master 980m is dead, you have to make the slave the master. This is done by which slot it is installed in. So just swap the slots.
You will also need to re-do the thermal paste on the good 980m afterwards.

 

I will try this one. Any thermal paste works right? even for CPU and generic brand? Also do you happen to have any step by step tutorial on how to properly remove the GPUs, heatsinks etc? Thanks!

 

No, i do not have that laptop. If there was nothing in this thread, google and youtube are your friends.

 

Ok thanks!

 

Hello again!

I did put back the x2 980s and It still booted but it can't be detected. The technician said it does not boot when both are put in so I'm confused. I did switch position as well and still the same outcome. Is there a switch to turn on the 980s? or am I missing a connector or what not? Also, what are these jelly like stuff on the heat sink? Are they thermal pads that i have to replace as well? https://imgur.com/a/CLG9zYi
Thanks!

 

Why are you using two?
Why not just put ONE card in and keep the 2nd card out?
The card has to be in the master MXM slot. I don't know which one is master and which one is slave. But the system will boot with 1 card installed as long as its installed in the primary slot. I dont know what slot is primary.

 

One of my 970m's died few years ago and I left it inside but it could boot without problem it just wasnt displayed in device manager.

I think primary slot is left one if you look from bottom side with power jack facing up or right slot if looking into screen.

 

@Falkentyne

I did put the x2 GPUs because the original problem was there was no power at all so the repair center concluded that the motherboard is broken, but they changed it and said the GPU is broken. They said it won't turn on if the broken GPU was inserted since as per them it shorts the motherboard so I tested it out and found out a different result (I was skeptical on how they tried to repair my system that is why I'm testing it). I will try to use one GPU later when I get home.

@Lumlx
Do you have x2 970ms? If yes, were you able to use one when the other one broke?

 

Yes I was able to but probably because one of the components due to the short blown up and it wasn't making full circuit anymore.

In your case it might be that your gpu is shorted somewhere so laptop's protection turns on and don't let you to boot. It might be possible to find that short on gpu and fix it.

 

Hi again! Ok so I tried booting it using 1 GPU only and it is still not being detected. I tested all possible combinations of putting GPU1 on the left/right slot and GPU2 on the left/right slot, still just the Intel is being detected.

Is it safe to say that both GPU are busted?
Can I buy and use other 980m's from other laptops?
Where do I go from here?

 

Well, at this point you probably have multiple issues to resolve, and it might be that it's not worth fixing. Parts are cheap, but getting good working ones for an older machine is tough. Watch ebay for components, or whole non-working laptops of the same or similar model, and then mix and match.

You could try to get MSI Support to accept it as a pay to repair RMA - outside of warranty...

Or, use the MSI Laptop Upgrade program and trade in that GT80 980m SLI for a Pascal GPU laptop on the current trade in list.

For a few hundred $ up to a couple of thousand $ you can get a new laptop with a Pascal GPU.

As long as you are the original owner and have the original receipt or you already registered the laptop at MSI you can email here: [email protected] and explain which model you bought (you must be the original owner) and that it isn't working but you want to take advantage of the MSI Upgrade, please you the current upgrade list and instructions on how to do the upgrade through MSI.

I'll attach the old application, and you can fill it out and attach it to the email. Ignore the date on it, they extended the program out past when the next generation GPU comes out, and you can get a 2nd upgrade then. This is to fulfill MSI's promise of 2 generations of GPU upgrades.

Please come back and let us know how it works out

 

The only person who can help you with this is @Khenglish
I doubt anyone else here knows enough except maybe ONE other user.
Could possibly be the MXM slot is busted.

Try doing this even tho it will take awhile.
And I'm not sure if the xxVR CMOS reset feature is in these older laptops or not.

Try pressing the power button to power on but do NOT release it.
Hold it down for 60 seconds.
Then release it, then power on again, and let it do its thing for about 3 minutes.
Do you get a display with card "1" in MXM slot 1?

if not, then put card "2" in MXM slot 1 then do the exact same thing.

If not, then put card 1 in MXM slot 2 and do the same thing.
Then card 2 in MXM slot 2.

If none of these give you a screen, contact @Khenglish and see if maybe you can send the board to him, as only he would be able to find the fault and fix it for you.
If he can't help you then maybe sell the laptop or video cards separately for parts as "untested" for 50% off the going ebay value and grab something current (like a CLEVO LGA laptop from HIDevolution like a P775TM1).

If you're still going to go BGA, just grab some old $400 disposable laptop you can toss around and do work on :/

 

@ hmscott
That sounds wonderful! Problem is I don't live in the US so I doubt that I'm eligible for that But I did still sent them the email. Thanks for letting me know about this program.

@Falkentyne
I think that would be my last resort to go to a certain repair shop here in my country that offers those soldering the mobo/gpu kind of thing for cheap repair.

I'll update you guys when something happens. Thank you all.

 

I got my GT80 used, in mint condition. Still runs fine without issues.

I undid the RAID, running Samsung PM951 as the primary boot drive and mirror it to the SanDisk 512GB. The 'spinning rust' has been replaced by Samsung 850 Evo and that's nice.

I think I will upgrade the rest of the SSDs with Samsung PM981 that came out not too long ago.

 

Ok I'm back!

Tried the trade in program from MSI but I'm not qualified since I live in the Philippines. Tried to contact MSI, they were never helpful. Sent it on a repair shop that does repair mobos and gpu, did not work. To think that my almost 5,000$ (yea it is expensive in our country) machine lasted 3 years is pathetic and I won't be touching any MSI products from now on. This is not an isolated event since my brother's MSI gaming laptop had the same outcome.

Since the laptop is still working except for the GPU, I was wondering if I can use ROG XG station ( https://www.asus.com/ph/Graphics-Cards-Accessory/ROG-XG-STATION-2/) to solve the problem? I mean I can use it on my desktop and other laptops as well. Does it work on all systems? Thanks!

 

@ Lumlx
BRO! IT WORKED! WOW! God Sent! Thanks a lot! So what the hell happened there? Cause the system wont boot so we thought (me and the official MSI service center) that the mobo was busted. Then eventually they were able to make it to bios but the GPU won't be detected anymore hence I was advised to replace the GPU and it costs 1,031$, I declined since that is already a price of a decent gaming laptop with at least GTX 1050. I decided to have the GPU repaired on a shop here that solders transistors and IC's and revive mobos and gpus but they said the chipset was busted and they can't fix it. Then I did what you told me, went to the BIOS advanced settings, pressed left alt+right ctrl+right shift+f2 to show some hidden settings and changed the gpu setting from igpu to dgpu and it worked! So I'm confused to what really caused the problem and what fixed the problem. Hmmm..Anyway I'm so happy! Thanks a lot again!

 

I think what happened was that your laptop failed to boot from dGPU so MSI's failsafe got triggered and it set your primary gpu to iGPU. Though I'm not 100% sure and someone who knows more could correct me.

 

I wish the GT80 SLI titan had a regular DisplayPort and a Mini-Display port, not sure what I am gaining with the two mini DPs.

 

I plan to upgrade the Samsung 850, the 1TB model I have in the 2.5" drive slot with the 2TB version of Samsung 860 Pro.

And the 2280 slots with Samsung 960 Pros, the 1TB models.

 

With mini dp ports msi saved some space and they were able to put two of them. Also you can use mini dp to do adapter or cable.

Make sure your titan supports nvme drives.

 

850 EVO uses SATA III interface and the 2280 SSD slots use NVMe interface.

I already run Samsung PM951 but am thinking to upgrade to either 960 Pro or PM981 Samsung.

 

My GT80 SLI still runs nicely. The prices on it have come down significantly versus a year or two ago.

 

Is it still worth buying one of these
Msi gt80 Titan
2 in sli GTX 980M 8GB
I7 4980HQ

Any input would be nice my biggest concern is how many more years do these video cards have or CPU are going to last for gaming

 

For the great keyboard, big screen, fast processor, yes.
For AAA gaming not really.
Most games will support only one 980m and that wont do well.

However, due to the screen being relatively slow response, even overclocked to 100hz, it's better suited for lower demanding overhead view games anyway.... Which are usually less demanding.

I had the GT80 and the GT83VR and they both had that same screen. Had to sell.

 

Well I play a little bit of everything.. is it worth picking up just because I want to laptop with a bigger screen and the keyboard in the front? I currently have a gaming laptop i7 and the 970m .. I know CPUs have not really changed a whole lot . I can't afford the higher-end model but I can pick up a msi gt80 pretty cheap and then sill my current laptop.

 

980m in sli is something in between 1060 and 1070... so still valid and above the average of the gaming pc.
I see some somebody has concern on 18"" full hd monitor. My current pc has 4k on that size but on a small monitor is also that not a big choice.

 

It is one of the best laptops that MSI designed so if you get good deal it is worth it. The GPUS are upgradeable based on MXM3 modular design. In the future you can even trade in for Eurocom GPU and CPU upgradeable SKY series laptop and get 25% discount.

 

Being the owner of a 3 year old MSI GT80 Titan, I would have to say that it is not worth it. On my my next purchase I'm planning to try Asus Rog or Acer Predator. I will avoid any MSI product.

EDIT: I've read that this unit is upgradeable? That seems false, I tried contacting MSI and asking my service center for that and they can't even provide me an upgrade. Maybe 970m to 980m you can upgrade and that's it

 

Check our line of Sky C series - now they are available with i9 9900K unlocked LGA1151 CPU and dual SLI MXM3 1080 upgradeable next year to 2080

 

I bought my MSI GT80 in new condition and has been using it close to 24/7 for almost 3 years now. This is the condition after almost 3 years:

1. battery health still 75% based on HWINFO
2. one of the SSD turned out causing very slow Windows booting, so now I use the 2x SSD in non-RAID mode.
3. gaming in high performance mode, cpu temp reach above 90 celcius, so I have to use the "jet engine" fan setting to lower the temp. i haven't done any re-paste though, so I guess it's time to do it.

So from reliability point of view, this laptop built quality is really good.
For gaming performance, it still can run new games Full HD @60fps... i think it's powerful enough for the next 2 years.
Keep in mind though that most new games doesn't support multi-gpu (i think i watched it on youtube about nvidia abandoning SLI).

 

Seems like they might be returning to it, but in a different form.

 

Hey guys. Im trying to swap the 'Fn' and 'Windows' keys on a Msi GT80 2QE (4th Gen Haswell).

I updated my bios to the latest version and managed to get the swap option in bios. However, the keys do not swap regardless of whether the option is enabled or disabled.

Any ideas?

 

Is it possible to make the 2.5" SATA III drive bootable?

My primary boot is the 2280 Samsung PM951 SSD but I used Macrium Reflect to clone it onto the Samsung 850 2.5" which is SATA III.
However, upon going into BIOS/boot, the 2.5" is not listed at all. It's as if it was not capable of being bootable. I used bcdedit to designate it as an alternative boot drive but BIOS still does not see it.

BTW I broke the RAID the machine came configured in, so that is no longer a factor.

 

I think so. Prices on the original GT80 titan seem to approach $1000 on your fav auciton.

I have the GT80 Sli with dual 980m and I am happy with it. it's a fast machine.

 

Once its cloned you must remove original drive because BIOS will get confused which drive to boot since they have same ID and other stuffs.

 

Maybe. I was once in the same situation and removing the original drive was followed with a boot from the clone.

 

You actually have the GT80S which has 3x NVME M.2 drives + 1 SATA 2 2.5" vs the previous GT80 which has 4x SATA III M.2 drives + 1 SATA 3 2.5" drive, so the M.2 / 2.5" experiences between the 2 generations aren't identically comparable.

It's important to add that S at the end of GT80S so responders know what you have. Even better would be the original model number GT80S SLI-xxx...

 

they need a successor for this laptop with zen2, or thread ripper

 

Wonder if they're waiting on better 18" displays. Imagine it with a 2560x1440 144Hz panel.

 

didnt ASUS already have a 4k 18" panel? unless only asus has it all to themselves. i would never buy an asus at this point, everything is soldered.

 

Yeah, on that crazy hybrid water cooled thing that came in a suitcase, though it was a 60Hz panel. I'd like to think MSI will do the right thing and for a gaming laptop put refresh and response time over resolution.

That said, I'm pretty sure if they made a "WT83" with a 60Hz 4K a fair few content creators might jump on.

 

anyway to submit feed back for us?