***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

1. personally, i use cru utility to only allow the refresh rates I want available. Then I also add custom resolutions in nvidia control panel. So i have a couple different ones (85hz 96hz) depending on how demanding the game is. Most games now let you choose which refresh rate at that resolution. Alternatively, the higher refresh rate in the detailed resolution list in cru is the default one the game will choose. So effectively..i dont even allow 60hz to be an option...but you could if u wanted to.

 

The game has to support it. Usually when I set a new refresh rate in the nvidia control panel, you need to change the refresh rate in game if it supports it. Some games, like Mortal Kombat X, stick to 60hz no matter what. GTA 5 and crysis 3 sync the frames to 90 with vsync on no problem. Racing games look the best with high refresh rates....Grid Autosport, 90fps, 90hz, pure awesome.

 

Hi everyone, I got my GT80 009 a few weeks ago and everything about it is great. But I just found a problem. Yesterday I unplugged the AC and watched youtube for an hour before plugging it back in, when the battery was about 25%. Then I entered a game in SLI modeand suddenly the framerate is low as CRAZY! That has never happened before. Then I disabled the SLI and run the Batman Arkham Knight, everything was just normal and fine. After an hour, when the battery is fully charged, I tried SLI mode again and it seems like it's back in normal. So my guess is if the battery is low, even though AC is connected, SLI won't work but single 980m would. Does anyone have the similar experience to prove this? Can anyone help me? Thanks.

 

I can notice in the motion shown on screen, and fraps locks to 96fps when I engage vsync.

 

I think the drivers get stuck in low power mode until you close any app that might be using the GPU so that it can self engage in full performance. something similar happened to me, where my clocks got stuck at low performance because I didn't notice I was initially disconnected. I just rebooted and everything was normal.

 

Yeah you can play at 1080@60hz no problem.

Mine didn't work at 120, it seems 96hz is the best stable I can get. Probably 100 too but I rather keep 96hz.

 

Also I noticed something else, even though I keep the AC connected, after I turn off the computer for a night and then turn it back on {not rebooting}, the battery would be something like 98% or 96%. when I put mouse on the little battery icon bottom right. How can the battery be used when AC is connected? Also If it shows the AC is not charging the battery. But When I disconnect AC and use 他和computer to around 60% or 70%，then reconnect it, it will be charging. Does this happen to you as well?

 

This is normal for any laptop, the only thing that varies per manufacturer is the % at which the battery starts recharging. In order to avoid overcharging or general damage, the laptop will stock charging once it hits 100% and then won't recharge unless you drop below 89%. It will say something like "Plugged in, not charging".

The battery will not hold its charge forever. As each day passes, a small amount of % can drop. You can check your battery at 100% one day, and after a week, it can be at 94% or something. This is normal.

 

Thanks for your reply. But as you can see in my previous post, when the battery goes really low around 30% or 40% (unconnected), even though I reconnect the AC, the performance in games is really HORRIBLE, which I guess is due to SLI not working. When the battery is slowly charged, the performance is back to normal. So Is there a way to adjust the % at which the battery starts recharging? I really don't want the low battery to affect my SLI performance.

 

Since so many folks seem to think these notebooks have mini-nuke reactors for batteries, I have to ask........are you trying to game with this notebook, when it is unplugged? When using the notebook unplugged, are you switching to IGP to minimize power consumption? Why are you draining the battery to 30-40%, then trying to game with it? Though the GT80 does allow mobile usage, it is not the best device for mobility, and when unplugged, you should be using the IGP, and only light applications to maximize battery life. The GT80 is essentially a DTR, and nothing will kill frame rates or battery life faster, than trying to game when unplugged. You need to consider the limitations of the battery, and power draw of the CPU and both 980M GPU's. When using the dedicated GPU's (SLI), keep a healthy state of charge, and only do so when the notebook is plugged-in...... otherwise switch to IGP for mobile usage.

Personally, I use other devices for mobility, and always game with this notebook plugged-in. As such, I have never had the frame rate or performance issues you describe.



Patient: Doctor, Doctor! It really hurts (and my notebook performs really crappy) when I do THIS!

Doctor: Well, QUIT doing THAT anymore!

 

I've noticed when the battery is low (~30% or so), once it's plugged in again it will reserve 30W (if I'm remembering correctly) to charge until the battery is back at 85%. It power throttles the second card to do this, and you get horrible stuttering. If you're in this charge cycle, you have to disable sli to game until you're back to 85%.

 

Interesting, I didn't know that nor had I noticed. I never use my laptop to game with low battery, its a rare occurrence.

 

You are absolutely right, any one using gaming notebook knows that they shouldn't play games unplugged, my point is if the unplugged battery is already low, even though you plug it back in, the performance is still unacceptable.

 

Since the battery pack is just about 50W, don't expect anything playable from it.

 

Correct and for all gaming laptops. Even it comes with a battery but not really meant to be playing games on battery mode, it also prevents battery from overheating.

That's because the adapter uses more percentage on charging since the battery level are low, therefore, the GPU and CPU gets less power.

 

Has anyone played and benchmarked GTA V on GT80? Can you guys share the settings and frame rates? I just wanna see if mine performance is normal.

 

the performance sucks, when standing still i get high frames, but once driving, you see it fluctuate a lot and make everything appear to stutter. The game causes my cpu to bottleneck my two cards, I can see this when i use the sli visual indicator. This is not the GT80's fault, its the game.

 

Hi all !

I've a Benq XL2720T monitor and it's connected to my GT80 on the mini DisplayPort.

The refresh is 60Hz on Windows, whereas this monitor can refresh at 120Hz.

Is it possible to have 120Hz refresh rate on GT80 ? I can't change it

 

Yes, it seems at least 96hz. See the previous two pages

 

You can drive up to 240Hz on 1920x1080 24bpp through the DisplayPort.

 

Thank you for your answers guys
How to change the framerate ?
In the nvidia control panel, I have only 60Hz at 1080p...

 

You can do it on the Nvidia Control Panel[1] or through CRU[2].

[1] http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/you-guys-know-you-can-overclock-the-lcd.660283/
[2] http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU

 

Agreed, but curious...... are you using this driver?

GeForce Game Ready Driver for Grand Theft Auto V

Release notes for 350.12

 

Thank you !
My bad, I've just to scroll down to find another resolution with 120Hz...
I found it ! Thank you again Cormogram

 

I've got everything maxed out and running the screen @ 72 Hz in 1920 x 1080 and I'm getting 55-80 fps.

 

Try manipulating the settings of the external monitor only. You can also try creating a custom resolution via nvidia control panel and set the refresh rate to 120, with everything else automatic.

The internal monitor of the laptop can also use custom resolutions and refresh rates. Mine goes up to 96hz

 

That is impressive, considering even a GTX980 struggles when maxing. Are you even using MSAA and all those taxing effects? Personally I would disable most of them heh.

 

Between 45-65 with MSAA x4 on and x4 reflection quality. Turning off EDS and turning those two down brings up the fps.

 

I've an issue with my new configuration @120Hz on my external monitor :

sometimes in game (BF4), I've a drop of FPS from 120 FPS to ~40FPS ( during 1 seconde).

We can see on the graph a "hole" :

what would be the problem ?

 

Yes i am using that driver, why? Something wrong with it in this game? Thanks for the info

 

You need to monitor both GPUs, and the CPU, for %utilization, temperatures, and clockspeeds. Unless we get that, its hard to determine what is causing it. It can be the CPU, since you are pushing very high fps, the CPU might be power or thermal throttling for a moment, or you might be exceeding the PSU's power, resulting in hard drop in performance?

 

Especially with BF4 which is hungry on all the hardware. You want a trace of chip activity over time so you can be fully aware of how the system is behaving.

 

Tank you for your answer guys.

How can I monitor this values ?

EDIT :
I've found a solution to monitor, with MSI Afterburner.

You can open the file with this software and see graphs.
The drop occurs at 15:33:10

File : http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=79048872299730819826

EDIT 2 :
I think I found the solution : I decreased the CPU voltage offset from -60mV to -40mV.
Now, after 45min of BF4, I don't have any drop of FPS

 

so running the cpu with too little juice can cause throttling? hmm

 

Yes it's strange...

I will tell you in few days if the issue come back

 

Ryzeki and all, hope I am not intruding, but seriously considering this laptop as I really want an sli machine with high refresh rate screen.

What is the lowest that someone has been able to overclock their machine in terms of refresh rate? Any ghosting or artifacts? How easy is it to do? Appreciate any insight and help.

 

Every panel is different so don't bet on it but most will do at least 75hz.

Your quote says it all, set a custom resolution in nvidia control panel and then hit test.

 

i am running it at 105hz right now with no issues. Any higher and I notice the screen starts to flicker. I am going to back down to 85hz and keep it there 24/7

 

Hello everyone!
Few days ago I've bought MSI GT80 2QD with dual gtx 970m and i7-4720hq.
I've got few questions:
1)Is it safe to OC monitor to 75Hz?
Monitor information:
Monitor Name: SAMSUNG [Unknown Model: SDC4C48]
Monitor Name (Manuf): 184HL [DELL P/N: XJY7J]
2)Have anyone tried to undervolt this processor and what's the safest -XmV

Thank you for your answers

 

Yes, 75hz is safe.
I undervolt the cpu to -35mv

 

So far, the lowest is possibly 72hz. But I am not sure that represents reality. Every panel is different and you should experiment with different refreshrates. Although my max hz is 96 in my case, I might go down to 84hz, just to have a more "consistent" performance. A lot of games do push beyond 100, but others tend to hover lower than that, specially non optimized SLI games. For example, I have a more consistent performance with borderlands 2 using 84hz, as framerate goes between 55 to 140fps. And it only seems to use 30% of each GPU.

Welcome to the GT80 owner ranks

1) There is no "safe" per se, refreshrate, but most owners have successfully overclocked the monitor way past that. Myself included. I personally prefer refreshrates that are inline with 24hz, to have better video compatibility.

2) A lot of us have downvolted, tweaked etc the CPU. Each CPU is different so there are no safe levels, or even minimum levels everyone can achieve. That being said, I work 100% stable at the following:

CPU Dynamic voltage offset: -48mv
Processor Cache voltage offser: -28mv
Processor Cache ratio: 30
CPU Ratios: 37/36/35/35
Reference Clock 101

I have tried other settings, but they tend to be unstable at some point.

 

wow, what a thread. It took me a couple days to read through all of it. Definitely have it as a bookmark for reference data for updates and general info, I just pulled the trigger on the GT80 -071.(i7-4720 and the GTX970SLI). I had purchased a Alienware AWR-17 withthe 4710 and the 970m. It seemed nice enough at first, but after quick checks of expandability, it was severely handicapped. Guess i should have done more research before purchasing it. I returned it after a week of disappointment of the regular updatability of it( i couldn't even add additional SDD's/there was no option for raid in the BIOS setup(which seemed very odd as there were 4 slots for a M.2 SDD's) it was either the SDD or the mechanical HD as a configuration. After that I boxed it up and returned. it. So sad, but good news i splurged a bit and went with the MSI. I am impatiently waiting until it arrives.

 

you will love this lappy, I have the same setup as you. With some overclocking, you can hit 980m sli stock scores. Best of all? You wont have the throttling issues with the HQ cpu like every other notebook I have tested this year.

Quick question for everyone, im trying to disable hibernation through command and it says I do not have the rights, do i need to disable secure boot or something?

 

Are you running cmd w\ administrator rights?

Has anyone had any issue with their headphone jack not being picked up?

 

yes i run it with admin rights, still nothing. Also, no, my headphone jack has been fine picking up my headphones. Maybe try to re-install the audio drivers?

 

The way I disabled hibernation was through power options.
Press battery icon (right bottom)>more power options>choose what the power buttons do (left side of panel)>scroll down and there will be shutdown settings.

If you haven't seen it in real life yet, you will be satisfied with it looks as I was. In photos videos it looks way thicker than it actually is. Also keyboard backlight is awesome too. Camera in reviews can't display true colors of the keyboard. Also typing is very very very comfortable on it (can't even compare with those low profile chiclet keyboards). Have fun with your beast when you will get it!

 

Agreed about the typing, mechanical keyboards are the win.

 

Also I think MSI made the best choice of switch, the browns are very good for typing and gaming and are the type I use in my own mech keyboard

 

You could also disable hibernation by running "powercfg -h off" under command prompt.