***The Official MSI GT80S Titan (w/desktop 980 GPU's) Owner's Lounge***

It is both of there fault. Cyberlink for the upgrade and MSI for not having a way to reinstall software with out a OS install.

 

Again, see my previous post, MSI may not be able to provide an individual installer for the PowerDVD product as part of the license agreement with Cyberlink.

I haven't seen Cyberlink installers for OEM installs for a long long time, from anyone.

 

That is most likely the case. Thanks for the link I will try both of those and see if they work.

 

My titan came with PowerDVD10 but I already uninstalled it sorry. I will try to get ahold of the version 12. This is why I don't like Cyberlink, and it's an issue with all manufacturers. I guess it was silly enough to cave in an upgrade it.

 

It's not like their product is bad, it's good, and it's not like they don't deserve to get paid, they do.

They didn't need to poison the OEM upgrades though.

Bad Cyberlink!!

 

It's not CyberLink's fault, it's the manufacturer that decides what software to purchase and bundle with the OS, and MSI only paid for the version 10 and then decided not to go with the newer versions. Free goodies can change without notice but it is their right to do so.

 

You missed the part where Cyberlink pulled / removed the years and years of updates for each PowerDVD version that worked on OEM and retail releases, and replaced them with updates that only update the Cyberlink retail package or download version.

All of the OEM packin versions, the ones that came with laptops and external / internal DVD players, that had years and years of updates were deleted from the Cyberlink update download support area, and replaced with an updater that destroy's OEM PowerDVD installs.

Instead of denying the update, saying something like: "this updater is only for Retail or Downloaded from Cyberlink versions, we no longer have updates available for your OEM install", it quietly destroy's your previously working PowerDVD OEM installation.

No, the Update the user was directed to download and install by the OEM installed version - that's right - check for updates takes you to the update that blows away the OEM install.

When you run the downloaded update, it smiles and blows away - ruins - makes unrunnable - all PowerDVD OEM installs the updater runs against.

That's wickedly evil. Truly the worst thing Cyberlink has ever done.

Cyberlink stopped allowing OEM's to provide downloads for the OEM PowerDVD licensed from Cyberlink, the only way to reinstall PowerDVD is to use the recovery image to restore back to the out of the box Windows OS configuration.

Everyone that tries to update PowerDVD bundled with their device is stuck either without recourse or they are forced to reinstall their out of the box OS install.

That's all Cyberlink's fault, not MSI's fault.

 

I should say nobody is at fault here based on each year's designation as things will go outdated quickly.
Yes that's correct, but each update cost extra, that's why MSI couldn't make each update available due to cost reasons. MSI had a total of two releases, one was the original release, and then a revised edition to support newer titles. The update is also being forced upon software vendor too since the encryption changes on the BluRay titles.

 

I am talking about software version updates - not upgrades to new versions - but updates within the same version. Version updates are for bugs, feature fixes, and yes some blue-ray feature updates, but not new BD codes for new releases.

The actual code releases for new BD movies are done through a separate channel inside the PowerDVD app, and aren't triggerable by the end user - they happen when you put in a new BD release and the app doesn't have the right decryption to play it, then it gets a code update.

The problem that @lichensoul has is with the Cyberlink software updater for his PowerDVD 10 OEM install.

The Cyberlink PowerDVD sent him to get an update - probably didn't even take him to the site - just click update in the app - so he couldn't see the warning that said the update was only for Retail Cyberlink, and isn't for OEM installations.

That Update exited the old app, and overinstalled itself - destroying the original installation - and then refused to work. Stranding @lichensoul without BD playback capability.

MSI told @lichensoul the only way to restore PowerDVD 10 OEM was to restore the whole Windows OS.

Cyberlink knows all this would happen. Cyberlink could have stopped the destructive updater before applying the update - instead their updater blindly blew away the perfectly functioning OEM PowerDVD installation.

That's all on Cyberlink. It's their updater, it's their fault. They knew it would happen, and did it anyway. Knowing it would strand the user, knowing the users only recourse would be an OS reinstall from the vendor image with the PowerDVD OEM configuration. And, hoping that the user would feel forced to purchase a new PowerDVD license as the solution.

That's all Cyberlinks doing, their fault.

 

scott, so what do you think about Corel WinDVD?

 

@lichensoul

I think everyone with a Cyberlink PowerDVD OEM version should download Corel WinDVD and try it out
http://www.windvdpro.com/en/products/windvd/pro/

Or, use the Leawo free blu-ray player which has been stable and reliable for me for a number of years - although I haven't used it recently.

Leawo Blu-ray player:
http://www.leawo.com/blu-ray-player/

And, to also complain to Cyberlink to fix their updaters to stop blowing away OEM installs they are run against.

I bought a free and clear license for Cyberlink PowerDVD Ultimate 15 from Cyberlink over a year ago, before this updater fiasco.

After buying a Cyberlink upgrade years ago, I got tired of needing to install the original version and run the upgrader against it, so this last time I just paid a few $ extra and got a fresh version - not an upgrade.

 

Sounds similar to the pain that was the Windows Anytime Upgrade key v.s the full version product key. Is the upgrade process much of a hassle?

 

You need to find your original installation disks or download(s), and install them in order, lastly applying the upgrade. So yes, it is to be avoided; a Full license is much quicker to install during a fresh Windows installation.

 

Nvidia's HB SLI Bridge - Surprising gains! GTX 1080 SLI Testing Inside!

 

Does anyone know how high we can go with the memory speed in this rig yet?

 

I guess we do not know?

 

u getting the gt83 finally along with nvme pcie ssds and 1080 sli? the new pcie sm961 when throttle only loses like 5% of speed its pretty good with samsung's new polaris ssd controller.

i took a comparison of gt80/80s and new gt83, in the back gt83 definitely have a smaller thinner exhaust vent just beside main vent on the rear, which is likely where 3rd fan will be so 3 fans likely to be true.

 

Could somebody with a GT80 or GT80S Titan do me a favor and snap a picture of their main capacitor? You'll need to take off the hinge cover to view it. A flathead screwdriver will do the trick, or use something else with more give to avoid damaging the plastic frame.

I ask because I **think** mine might've blown, but I need to compare it to another to be sure.

 

Is the top flat or does it bow up a tiny bit?

 

The top is flat, but I don't recall seeing that solid red substance beneath it a few months ago.

 

if it was blown the top would not be flat.

 

I understand, but why does it appear to have leaked something then?

 

Maybe I don't see what you see...But what exactly is leaking and from exactly where? Caps do not leak bright red substances from the bottom....
https://www.google.com/search?q=do+...hF2DqM:;8jH3I9BOrjx6YM:&imgrc=xkeoUmjjhF2DqM:

 

If it's solid, some kind of glue?

 

('sniff', 'sniff', -'sniff', -'sniff', 'sniff') Do you smell that? ...... ('sniff', 'sniff', 'snifffff') Smell It? ('sniff', 'sniff', 'sniff') YEP, that's the smell of my new GT83, and it'll be ready SOON!

('sniff', 'sniff', 'sniff') Oh Yeah, and it smells like the coolest and quietest ever in it's class, and most powerful gaming notebook of all time!

 

For extreme gaming the MSI GT83 Titan SLI S enthusiasts is the giant of the category not only for its size “bloated”, but also to the power that hides beneath the chassis. We have not information about the SKU for the Italian market, either on their prices and availability to the public, but according to what is released by the Taiwanese Computex 2016 in Taipei, the gamestation will be on sale in the US for August at a starting price of $ 4,500. And this gives you already a first impression on his equipment.



MSI GT83 Titan SLI S is a simple refresh of the MSI GT80 Titan SLI, which we crossed several times at the fair last year, not only because it has a more powerful hardware equipment of the previous model but also because it incorporates some “additional” solutions more recent and effective, as a renewed cooling system. The name “GT83 S” also indicates that its thickness has been reduced, but at the moment we can not be more precise.
MSI GT83S Titan SLI

The gamestation, therefore, is still equipped with Intel Core or Core i7-6920HQ i7-6820HK processors, both belonging to Skylake family, with 16GB of RAM (up to 64GB) DDR4 2133MHz to four slots and a 1TB hard drive from 2.5 inches for storage, optionally flanked by (up to) four units of the type M.2 solid-state in various denominations up to 1TB, RAID configured in Super mode 4. however, the most important change concerns the graphics: MSI has opted for two graphics cards Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 (mobile version of the desktop model launched recently) configured in SLI, the GeForce GTX 980 significantly higher than the previous model. The GPU is not official yet and this is the reason why the card shows generically “two Nvidia GPU latest generation”.
The screen of the MSI GT83 Titan SLI S proposes a 18.4-inch Full HD panel (1920 x 1080 pixels) Wide Viewing Angle, equal IPS, and Dynaudio audio industry with four front stereo speakers and a subwoofer on the bottom, ESS SABRE HiFi and Nahimic 2. 0 for the best sound audio experience. The kit will not many surprises interfaces, except for the inclusion of a USB 3. 1Type-C with support for Thunderbolt 3, in addition to the five USB 3.0, HDMI and Mini DisplayPort (for a total of three video ports 4K to connect 3 external monitors simultaneously), an SD card reader, audio jacks for headphones and microphone, and an S / PDIF digital audio for 7.1 systems. Full Connectivity also, thanks to chip Killer DoubleShot Pro Gigabit LAN, Killer DoubleShot Pro 802.11ac and Bluetooth 4.1

MSI GT83 Titan SLI is the first (and only) gaming notebook with SteelSeries mechanical keyboard Cherry MX Brown, with a large multi-touch display located to the right, which plays both touchpad functions that a virtual numeric keypad. All the heat produced will be handled smoothly by the new solution Cooler Boost Titan, a completely redesigned cooling system with more heat pipes, Whirlwind Blade fans and larger grids on the back to lower the CPU and GPU temperatures inside.

 

Hmmmmm, simple refresh? LOL, I'm hearing some things a bit different...... (no comment)...... but yeah, everything you say sounds pretty good to me!

 

its got 3 fans, thats all i care about at this point. cpu we all know its gonna be junk cause of soldered bga so at least a decent extra cooling fan would help

 

How do I get it back on my laptop? I don't have any blue ray software

 

I still see no reason to change my one....

 

With GTX 1080 SLI FHD is somewhat outdated. It should do 4k quite well....

 

Does the touchpad also change colors?

 

In my opinion the GT83 should at least be GSYNC if its keeping the FHD panel otherwise it should be 4k as the ASUS 18 released later will be according to reports.

 

probably, but after use of changing color keyboard i find it owning it wont make much of a difference. to me cpu, and storage comes first, then gpu.

this machine is great 18 inch, although it has water cooling capability, the cpu itself can't take advantage of it as it wont let us overclock anything past 4.2ghz lol then theres no point..

at this point gt83 vs gx800, i wonder which one would have more 2.5" space.

 

@hmscott, @GTVEVO @mason2smart does gt80 or 80s come with cpu fan control software? not really into the toggle max fan type but more of a software where we can adjust cpu temperature vs fan speed ourselves type of thing.

reason i ask is because gt80 and 80s the cpu/gpu fans are shared, and as how its designed they placed cpu secondary cooling wheres gpu is primary (gaming laptop go figure ha). software of any sort would be awesome on cpu side.

 

You can download silentoption for the gt80..... edit!

 

As posted above with the First edition GT80 haswell I could use silent option and it worked very well to alter offset ramps for each fan.

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gt80s doesnt have it then?

 

I am unsure if it was ever updated to work with the GT80s EC framework. Hopefully someone else can verify.

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Silentoption was updated to support GT80s as far as I remember.

 

Hehehehe.... imagine for a moment, a cool and quiet GT83, no 'Silent option' necessary...... no liquid cooling (Asus) colostomy bag needed..... and something else to fathom...... DUAL 330W PA's..... for those who understand, imagine the implications!

 

thats good to know its supported and they make the effort to support new laptops. lets hope gt83 with 3 fans will do the same too, which with 1 more fan dedicated to just cpu, it'll be that much better.

tbh, i'd love to have that watercooling capability ONLY IF the cpu allow high overclocking. in this case is almost pointless on gx800.. which is why i likely will go for msi GT83. also knowing its ASUS.. i sense soldered GPU or custom shaped GPU MXM card, they are well known for that..

 

I don't want to get into Asus bashing, but I will say, what you mention and other things has had me disappointed for several years now..... and the colostomy bag is just TOO much, LOL!

I've already pre-ordered my pre-order, and we'll see what the GT83 has to offer soon enough. It should be AWESOME!

 

It, by default, corrected your main gripe which was CPU temp. I hope hahahaha. 3 fans should be great for the system overall.

 

Yep, it's gonna be good Ryzeki! Thermal mgmt. has been addressed in several areas..... will be cooler and quieter than anything in it's class, the latest GPU's (w/ the latest and fastest GDDR5X mem - 1080's only) and did you catch the part where I mentioned TWO 330W PA's..... think of what this implies!

 

What implies?! :O

 

What does dual 330W PA's imply to you? THINK MAN, THINK!

 

Just oc....but in my case with modded bios.... I do not believe they will allow by default....

 

An OC'ers and experimenters dream machine. It's unprecedented in notebooks! Straight from the box, mo-power than you'll ever need..... it's like MSI has gone the way of Tim, the Tool Man Taylor..... and even if bios are limited, mods are always soon to follow. Mo-Power, mo-power, mo-power! Burn em' up if you like boys!

It is going to be interesting to watch.....

 

Hey guys first time around, thank god I found this forums because I was about to buy a GT80. But since I just saw in this forum that a new one is releasing this August I'll wait for it.

One quick question does the gt80 still depletes your battery while plugged ?

And lets hopes it comes with the double 330W AP like the Asus will.

And in this article it implies that it comes with 4k screen
http://www.techtoyreviews.com/msi-g...li-and-backpack-pc-launched-at-computex-2016/