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well I have decided to cancel this order too many unknowns at this point and I"m not feeling all that good I may contact these gentech guys and see if they can sell it to me without the drives and maybe only 32GB ram. It will be more but cyberpower told me it is 2x 230 watt and not 330 watt they said it will run fine. Not sure what to conclude so for now I'm just going to say no.

 

Tell CyberPowerPC that MSI disagree's, as MSI ship's 2 x 330w for the 1080 SLI, and MSI only use the 2 x 230w for the 1070 SLI model.

Like I said CyberPowerPC has done reduced PSU's on other models before, and it's clear they don't care about performance.

The boutique sellers will customize your laptop, but you won't be saving a lot by eliding items from the build.

Again, I would wait until we get more user reports on the GT83VR 1080 SLI before spending all that $.

If you do move ahead with a purchase, please do post your benchmark results and temperature results and share them with others

 

No, according to hwinfo I pulled 197W on Civilization 6 for single 1080. Sadly I am unable to provide screenshots, the game refuses to exit to desktop properly and I had to logout/login to get back into windows (along with hwinfo reloading).

Edit: I'm no longer able to pull 197W from Civ6, maximum I get now is 192W. But here's one from playing Assassin's Creed Syndicate

 

Of course !

 

I went that route with Gentech and had them remove the nvme drives. Most sellers will only save you like 50 bucks or something if you do that but with them it knocks off $200 each. They are also running a $300 instant rebate at the moment so by taking advantage of those changes you get $700 off. They also have the 3% cash discount but that makes everything take longer. Anyways, I put my order in on the 20th and it already shipped out yesterday so they definitely have my respect so far.

 

I'm envious (or jealous I'm not shure which is appropriate) I ordered mine on the 25th.....of September!

Though that being said I hope you enjoy the machine.

Edit: it's envy definitly envy. Learning things every day. Lol

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Go purchase it and write a review for us. Even better, make a video review and post it on YouTube
Little reviewon Everki Titan from me: It's been 9 months, I loaded the bag not only with laptop and charger, but also other things sometimes up to 12kgs (total weight). The straps still good. I hope it can last more than 2 years.

The price of Everki is much lower in my country. I bought the Everki Titan for USD95, genuine from authorized seller (the seller listed on Everki Website).
The "normal" price (MSRP) is equal to Amazon price though, so you probably could get it for less on street price (offline stores).

 

Update on the delivery situation..it should be in by wednsday.

As soon as I get it in my hands I should be able to get the ball rolling.

Are there any image uploading sites I can use to host my images or is the forum fine?


Edit: @hmscott & anyone else. IT'S HERE. just finished setting it up....a little finnickyness getting it to work with my acer pred x34.....but everything seems smooth now. i just gotta start benchmarking. gonna start light for tonight. im looking for suggestions. firestrike extreme? heavan?

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Making a new post so I can organise my benchmarks.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15788964? stock out of the box, i think i had steam downloading something in the background.

 

Your out of the box score is great

Here it is compared to the #1 Futuremark Notebook 1080 SLI Fire Strike Extreme Score set by @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER using an OC'd P870DM3

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/9958481/fs/10653296

Your stock score is 15% under for Graphics and 38% under for CPU, so you have a ways to OC

Maybe @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER can post his stock Fire Strike 1.1 Extreme score, for a stock comparison?

Can you also run a Fire Strike 1.1 - not extreme, we can compare against a GT80 SLI-263 980m SLI:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5708173

Added the top Notebook 1070 SLI Score (an MSI laptop) for a compare:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/9958481/fs/10302011/fs/10653296

And, here is a comparison of your 1080 SLI score against the top 1070 SLI score:
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10302011/fs/10653296

Your 1080 SLI vs 1070 SLI is 15% faster in Graphics, and 15% slower in CPU, again some room to OC.

Great news you finally got your GT83VR

 

@NuclearLizard 's GT83VR has a 6920HQ.

Which could limit him a bit on top end CPU to 4.0ghz, it will be interesting to find out what his BIOS or Intel XTU will allow.

Undervolting should help improve duration test results too - reducing heat helps keep the clock speed up.

Not that big a deal, since I think the GT83VR BIOS won't let the 6820HK go much if any higher.

Here is a more "fair" comparison against the 2nd place Fire Strike Extreme SLI 1080 score, but it's still against a 6700k:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10653296/fs/10484031

Here is a comparison against the top MSI GT83VR score:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10383063/fs/10653296

The Graphics is only 2% behind and behind 16% CPU - a 6820HK @ 4.0ghz... I hope that's not top OC for that guy either...

 

Stock P870DM3
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15792561
As requested by @hmscott

 

Hmm, shouldn't it come up under 'fs' instead of '3dm' ?

I can't add your score to his for a comparison...

Are you Sephadex on Futuremark?, if so here is the comparison:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10654801/fs/10653296

Sephadex's score is 5% higher in Graphics, and 21% faster CPU.

 

Just woke up a little while ago. gonna do some benchmarks and a little bit of tuning.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15793554? - the regular firestrike.

As I go about today I'll add more, all will be done at stock, with auto fans for now.
(time spy wont even run....)

 

This one's a bit more worrying. Stock 1080s should get around 40K +/- 2K. 33K is closer to SLI 1070 territory. Can you rerun this a few times and see if it's consistent?

 

Yea, I'm just waiting for Windows and some stuff to finish their thing. I keep finding my settings set back to stock as it installs critical updates etc.

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Here's a comparison between your GT83VR 1080 SLI and the GT80 980m SLI:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10655370/fs/5708173

The 1080's - all Pascal, don't scale as well at 1080p as at 4k, so benchmark comparisons between Pascal laptops should be at 4k to best compare.

You need more CPU power to scale on 1080p as well as the P870DM3 1080 SLI.

But, it's nice to see the comparison @ 1080p too

You might want to jump to OC soon... at least for CPU, undervolt at stock first, then OC - reduce undervolt as needed when increasing the core multipliers.

 

Ok. Though I would like to ask for clarification I might not be doing thing right. Lol

Which fire strike should I be doing? I have regular ultra and extreme.

Also any other good benchmarks I should run?

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Many things will scale ok at 1080p, most games should be fine, but some may do better at 4k as well.

Fire Strike regular is 1080p, so use Ultra and Extreme for comparisons for now, less CPU required - fewer FPS - each frame adds CPU load.

Watch your CPU utilization while in games, not just FPS - also watch GPU utilization. When CPU is limiting, your CPU utilization will be highest, with GPU utilization being lower.

You also likely need to make sure at 1080p your Nvidia 3d settings are set for performance, Vsync and Gsync are off, and anything else that could hold back performance.

You just got it out of the box, it's going to take a while to get it sorted out for best performance.

 

Yea, Im just waiting for everything to calm down at the moment, I have windows sneaking in driver updates and OS updates in the background while I'm running things so my cpu usage is all over the place.....


Edit: killer networking is large in part useless correct? I can yank it with no issues?..as it seems to be eating up 13% of my cpu at any given time.

 

It's an acquired taste, you can download the drivers only package, uninstall the current Killer Suite, reboot, then install the drivers only package:

http://www.killernetworking.com/product-support/driver-downloads/standard-drivers

When you have other stuff under control, you can go back and set up the Killer Suite, it's really easy, and load balances network throughput on the laptop - so you can stream videos while doing simultaneous torrents + other downloads, while browsing - it works really well.

The only thing you really need to do to make it work right, is to go into the systray app, and set the upload / download speeds accurately. Yeah, that's it.

Or do the uninstall of the Killer Suite / reboot / install drivers only.

 

ahhh ok, so far I would say the only issue I'm having with it is that it occasionally hoovers up CPU space. I saw it take 18% to itself for a minute or two and drop back down to .7.

 

Without setting the upload / download, it seems to try to do it automatically, and for some reason - it fails.

Did you turn off the MSI Dragon Center xboosters? This Linus Tech Tips video starting at 4:00 goes through it, and shows the 2 options to disable to stop the CPU usage @ 4:49 - USB and Storage xBoosters, toggle off.

 

yea, did all that, even went so far as to remove dragon centre

now im trying to diagnose an interesting issue with my x34. lol.
it keeps shifting to a red tint when i watch videos (any kind, youtube, local or other) in fulls screen.
seems when any application is in fullscreen. just tried the witcher 3.

 

When you do start pushing benchmarking, you are going to want to run the 100% Full Fans. Synthetic and gaming benchmarks alike.

Starting before your start the benchmark to cool down the CPU / GPU as much as possible, and then run full fans while benchmarking - never turning full fans off - and then let full fans run after benchmarking for a while to pull the collected heat out of the system before going back to auto fans.

Running auto fans are will limit your results. Your CPU will reach thermal throttling quickly on auto fans, and fold back performance.

You need every advantage to get the top scores

Get a portable air-conditioner and set the GT83VR intakes over the output vent

No Pain (loud fans), No Gain

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15796646? - the latest one, ran max fans 4 minutes before and 10 after. kept them on the full way through.

lol I wasn't thinking of going that far down the bench marking path, even though being able to say i have the fastest gt83 would be nice.

my highest temp was 74c on gpu2. gpu 1 was 69ish and I don't think my CPU went over 70.....I'm still trying to figure out how to get a good picture to send. lol

 

@NuclearLizard - here's a comparison adding another GT83VR that has been OC'd, to show you the potential you're laptop has when tuned, and added @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER 's Fire Strike 1080p score:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10294846/fs/10655370/fs/10593530

The other GT83VR 1080 SLI OC'd his CPU to 4.0ghz and also his GPU's to get a Graphics score very close to the P870DM3 - even without the 6700K

Here's only your GT83VR vs the OC'd GT83VR:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10655370/fs/10593530

 

It's just a fan, it won't blow your score higher

Now that you got the cooling going for ya, you can start OC'ing

There is always variation in scores, with other things running all the time, you also have to tame Windows services, scheduled reports back to MS HQ, applications, etc.

Get the tools to tame Windows 10 going and configured, and start disabling and uninstalling the stuff you don't need.

Oh yeah, don't forget to make a 32GB USB 3.0 Flash Recovery drive backup of your system - it should already be bugging you to do it, make sure to get it done soon just in case you get a SSD failure - it's happened to guys a day or two out of the box - and they put off doing the recovery backup.

Then you can start blowing stuff away with confidence that you can recover back to the out of the box configuration any time you want

 

true, but its always good to make sure you have room. lol

I'm gonna start trying to oc. anything I should know?

 

Do the MSI BurnRecovery 32GB USB 3.0 flash recovery backup first

 

There is always variation in scores, with other things running all the time, you also have to tame Windows services, scheduled reports back to MS HQ, applications, etc.

Get the tools to tame Windows 10 going and configured, and start disabling and uninstalling the stuff you don't need.

Oh yeah, don't forget to make a 32GB USB 3.0 Flash Recovery drive backup of your system - it should already be bugging you to do it, make sure to get it done soon just in case you get a SSD failure - it's happened to guys a day or two out of the box - and they put off doing the recovery backup.

Then you can start blowing stuff away with confidence that you can recover back to the out of the box configuration any time you want

 

Already did one of those, it was the first thing I did after turning on the computer. lol

 

Patience, and take notes at first, and continue doing that for you own sanity - it's easy to forget stuff after doing it for hours, or going to sleep and waking up it's nice to review what you did the night before.

Intel XTU and MSI Afterburner are the tools.

First do undervolt at stock CPU speeds, on just the CPU cores.

Start at -100mv, and work your way down -10mV at a time. You might get as high as -200mV... or only -85mV... more or less, every CPU is different.

You can use the built in XTU Stress test for 5 minutes at a time until you get a BSOD at an undervolt, then back off -20mV and run on that for a while.

Increase again -5mV at a time, run on it and find stability in all activities - games, benchmarks, movie watching, idle time.

Usually the last BSOD is while idle. Back off 5mV and that should be stable.

Then work on undervolting the CPU Cache, start at -25mV and work in -5mV increments.

Always vary 1 thing at a time, and run everything at it's stable values for that multiplier.

When you are stable on undervolt, then you can run some benchmarks for numbers to compare against stock.

Take a break and do some gaming

Then work on OC'ing the CPU. Try going to 40x on all 4 cores, you will likely need to halve or reduce by 2/3 the undervolts - or put the undervolts at stock - it may take some playing around with settings from default to get 40x x 4 stable.

Then once the CPU is OC'd stable, benchmarked, and gaming done, you can work on the GPU

You can look at the benchmark for the 1080p Fire Strike, check out his GPU settings as a goal for your GPU OC.

 

Awesome!

Then give undervolting a shot. It can improve CPU performance in benchmarks.

Then OC the CPU...

 

I'm not sure it's just CPU power. I did a run capped at 34x for comparison and still got a reasonable graphics score at 1080p.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15799949

If it turns out to be consistent I would ping whoever did the 44K OCed run to see what they get at stock just to make sure.

 

Speaking of power, what was the wattage drawn on the CPU during that test? The 6920HQ will only do 45w continuously, generally bouncing around 42w.

Maybe limit the power as well, and see what you see.

 

I didn't have HWInfo open for that run but I would guess around 55W or a bit less since it topped out at [email protected]. On the GT80S with adequate thermal dissipation, I've seen the 6920HQ can pull at least 90W with a 75mV undervolt indefinitely without current or TDP limit throttling. Is that not the case on the GT83VR?

 

not sure. i got past 130mv undervolt on mine and im more or less holding rock solid at 3.39. How would i go about testing it since im already in there fiddling with it?

sorry if i seem a little off. just woke up from being trapped on the cough. the gaming on this is a real treat though.


Just finished fiddling around with the undervolting. I stopped at -200. I'm going to try and take a picture and get your feedback before I proceed. I have tried looking up stuff on YouTube and forums but it seems....vauge. @hmscott @Q937 @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER

 

How many turbo bins (multiplier x for the cores) do you have? 34 x for quad core, how high does it go?

Undervolting is fine, but you can also find, and fine tune, a max turbo speed along with a nice undervolt to keep temps in check while delivering more performance.

Por example I can game at like -90mv at 34x, -65mv at 35x and -45mv at 36x for my haswell CPU. The best performance/ratio ends up being 35x at -65mv usually (for me).

 

It seems to be running happily at -130mv @ 3.6 on all cores.

sorry about the lengthy time to reply I have been enjoying and trying to solve an issue with civ6.

 

Back when I was still using my GT80S, I could comfortably hit 4GHz at -75mV or so on my 6920.

 

All cores or on the single?

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All cores.

 

Interesting. I'll have to fiddle more. It seems to like undervolting on the cores. I got to -200mv with no issues so far.

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That's actually great. At least both the 6920HQ and 6820HK offer similar practical limits for the cooling of the system. I was worried the 6920HQ would be capped to something like 3.6-3.8 ghz. Which is still pretty good anyways.

As for the CPU undervolting, yeah my cpu is actually rather bad in that regard. My GT60 with 4700MQ does -120mv easily at 34x and can do more. Mine would die if I tried so. Then again I did notice I am less stable since I use 2133mhz ram, compared to 1600mhz, maybe that affects somehow.

 

Just ran a test at [email protected] on all cores (Intel xtu stress) it says passed.

Functional it sits at 3.98, says my top temp way 81c reported by xtu though I'm thinking of re running with HW monitor.

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That's not bad at all, hopefully it will be 100% stable for the most part. You can use other software to test stability including games or benchmarks like cinebench that end up stressing the CPU a lot.

 

I'm running a fire strike with HW MONITER in the back ground. Will edit the results into this post.
OC cpu run http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15807759?

Did some runs in cinebench and octane



cinebench is at 3.6 for all cores
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this is exactly why clevo needs to throw in desktop cpu in their flagship laptop. some of the chip out there we could get real lucky and run a 4.7-4.8ghz with 1.2v or under, makes a huge difference in performance and temperature. though configuration of the setup does make some differences in stability like ram speed and graphics card etc.

 

A couple of screenshot methods I use, the Windows one - look on your keyboard, usually a function - key combo - this takes the "whole screen", edit in mspaint.

The other method is to use Windows "snipping tool", which lets you edit / annotate in it, and best thing is you can "grab" the section of the screen you want to show, like just the hwinfo64 dialog view - or both the test app + monitoring tool dialogs - grab a view around all the screen space you want, then redline (or other color) whatever you want to show, or yellow highlight a section, then save a jpg/png/etc.

That's a lot easier than a photo, but for BIOS our outside Windows apps you'll want to use a camera