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I can't say I have had the issue.

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My first thought would have been that maybe it was just hitting that instead of thermal throttle while under boost clocks, but downclocking doesn't stop it, and it's only on GPU2 which is strange.

It also dips down from 1800 to 1600 mhz in spurts giving a power limit flag.

Letting it drop from P0 (down to 1200-1400mhz) seems to stop the throttle flags

 

Sounds like it might be a bad card. I'm hardly an expert but I'd suggest maybe an rma if Its throttling at stock.

On a side note, does anyone else here play monster Hunter? I wonder how well it's going to run on this machine.

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Gonna keep asking around before deciding what to do. Don't wanna send it out if its actually nothing. Though at least unlike the GT80, RMAing is an option xx;

 

What are you guys getting for max CPU temps?

I got a laptop from the trade in program and I sent it in for RMA for high CPU temps (99C in TimeSpy, stock CPU speeds and cooler boost on)

I got the laptop back and supposedly the RMA dept tested it and said it was hitting only 70C????

After getting it back I tested it again and the CPU hit 93C under the same settings in time spy.

Max overclock of the 7920hq is yielding high instability. It can't even hold a 15mv undervolt for more than 5 seconds after I apply it before it shuts down and reboots!

Is this normal?

I really like this laptop the screen is perfect with no bleed and it feels more solid than my gt80s

(The left trackpad button is a little loose and springy.)
@hmscott

I would greatly appreciate any assistance with these issues.


MSI has offered to replace the unit. Should I take my chances again with a new unit or is this normal?

 

Old gt80s 6820hk at same settings as the stock 7920hq


Here's the 7920hq in my gt83vr

Does this differential warrant a replacement?

 

Yeah, it's clearly not up to performance, I'd tell MSI to replace it.

It's kinda worrisome about that loose left click, like it's got some miles on it already.

Did it seem new out of the box? Or, does it seem like a return from someone else?

 

Any ideas why suddenly my GT83 can''t boot while USB devices are connected after i booted it once with them disconnected?

Boot order is internal storage first, and there are no USB storage devices connected. I cannot reboot without it hanging on the MSI logo.

It booted just fine until i turned it on one time without the devices connected.

The displayport hub isnt being detected anymore either.

 

It's odd, but happens that initializing some USB devices appears to hang the boot, it should eventually complete the boot.

Also, some Blu-ray discs do the same thing. When I see that slight delay in the boot, I often remember I have a Blu-ray disc in the caddy, so I pop it out and the boot continues.

Make sure you don't have anything bootable on USB connected at boot time, there might be something else going on as it stat's the top level directory in each device too - make sure you don't have a zillion files in the top level.

If you can figure out which USB device is causing it, you can debug further. There are Windows tweaks to not stat the drive at start, but I haven't needed to do that for a long time, just move all the files into a sub-folder if that's the issue.

 

Again, no storage devices connected, nothing new connected, it basically got electronically spoiled by not having those on boot once.

First time i left it alone an hour, not sure it's gonna work. No spinny windows oader either, just MSI's dragon badge of death.

DP hub isnt working either even after boot.

 

You said they were connected, but were previously disconnected for 1 boot. Now you are saying there are no storage devices connected... hard helping you when you keep changing the set up

Please come back and let us know what it turns out to be...

 

I said there were no storage devices from the get go. Reread the first post you quoted. I have USB non storage devices connected, as in, they ought not to be bootable, you can't boot from a keyboard.

No changes were ever made to the setup aside the one boot without anything connected.

 

Can someone with a GT83VR-6RE or 7RE (with SLI 1070s) please help me out with a vBIOS dump?

I want to try a non-gsync vBIOS that works with the SLI version of the MSI 1070 for my retrofit

- download nvflash and extract
- open command prompt (Windows key + type "cmd"), right click cmd.exe and run as adminstrator
- go to the directory you extracted nvflash to
- "nvflash -i0 --save vbiosdump.rom" (try nvflash64 if that doesn't work)
- upload the file to me attached to PM, or PM me with your email and I can send you a link to a dropbox folder

Cheers

edit: nevermind, got it working, was a driver/INF mod issue not vBIOS.

 

i got one last week. it runs great, stays plugged in better as well. gonna leave the 2xpsu adapters at my office if i ever decide to bring the beast with me to work sometime.

 

That's my confusion then, I don't usually mention none storage devices as connected, they make no difference.

Did you figure this out yet?

 

Hi! can anyone share a gtx 1070 vbios from gt83vr?

 

Hello every one I was looking at getting a Msi gt83vr and ran across the fangbook v which has two gtx 1080 and 7820hk .. would You guys recommend that ? Looks like i can get it for 2800 with the 5% off .


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Early on Fangbook only shipped with smaller than required power supplies, so they weren't recommended, but someone a while back noted they began including full 330w PSU's (2), so maybe they are ok now.

Fangbook is a whitebox MSI builder, so you won't get MSI support only Fangbook support, something to keep in mind.

If you get one, please come back here and let us know how you like it

 

Any one know how the cooling is


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All the internal parts are the same as from MSI...

 

Looks to be the gt80 case though right ? Wonder if it has 3 fans or two


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Are the GPU and CPU heatsinks completely separated? The GT73VR and GT83VR has the best cooling of any laptop around, but it took MSI awhile to finally step up their cooling. The older GT80 / GT80S wasn't nearly as good. regardless you'll definitely want to repaste these monsters with Kryonaut!

 

If it's a GT83 those parts won't fit in a GT80 case, and there's no reason for Fangbook to have done that.

I guess I have to be more specific. The whole laptop, case, display, keyboard, internals - storage and ram might be different - are all MSI.

I think Fangbook tried to shave off cost by using less powerful PSU's, and other external components.

You can verify the parts by popping up that big list and looking for PSU wattage to verify they are still shipping the 330w psu's.

 

It shows the two 330w


The only reason I thought gt80 is because the back looks the name

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Do you have first hand experience with the GT80 / GT80S?

The cooling for the GT80/GT80S was / is great, and is better than the CPU cooing of the GT83, even though the GT83 added a 3rd fan just for the CPU - somehow MSI didn't give enough cooling power to the CPU in the GT83.

 

Good, then it should be a clone of the GT83VR

The outside color and appointments (decals, trim) might be different, but it looks like it's the same inside.

They might be using stock photo's of the GT80 for some angles if they didn't have the complete collateral from MSI when they made the product page.

The GT83 form "looks" just like the GT80(S) but is thicker at the rear to accommodate the taller heat exchangers:

 

Nope I don't I was going by what another member commented on about the GT80S cooling.

 

Yeah, well, there's always room for improvement, and sometimes out of the box you can get a hot CPU - overvolted way too far - but undervolting solves that.

The GT80S had the first Skylake CPU's, and they benefited from undervolting even more than the previous Haswell and Broadwell CPU's.

You could undervolt some Skylakes as much as -220mV where previously -100mV was the "top end" undervolt.

Same goes for the Kabylake's, and after undervolting the GT83 CPU cooling is fine. When OC'ing and unlocking power limits to get into the 80w-90w range you can over power the cooling on the CPU, that's where we hoped MSI would have extended the cooling range.

For me the combination of dual PSU's, louder cooling, and just sheer size and weight of the GT83 tipped it just past my comfort level, so I am waiting for the follow on - hopefully with a unified PSU and some more engineering effort into making the cooling better but more quiet at the same time.

 

I just ordered one .. I have a Msi gt83vr with 1070 I can still send back .. I think this might be worth the extra 400 what do you think


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This is the system o ordered just with a smaller SSD because I have my own

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Laptop: 18.4" FHD (1920 x 1080) Wide-View Displays LCD w/ Mechanical Cherry MX RED Backlit Gaming Keyboard, HDMI 1.4 & mini Display Port
Laptop Color: Fangbook V Extreme Cover
CPU: Intel Core Processor i7-7820HK 2.90GHz Turbo 3.90GHz 8MB Cache Processor (Kaby Lake)
Motherboard: Intel CM238 Chipset
RAM / System Memory: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/2133MHz SODIMM Memory (Performance Memory by Major Brands)
Video Card: Dual NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (SLI-mode) 16GB (8GB X 2) GDDR5 (Pascal)[VR Ready] (NB-FANG-541)
Video Capture Card: None
M.2 SSD: 250GB WD Blue M.2 SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read and 465MB/s Write (Single Drive)
Hard Drive: 1 TB 7200RPM SATA300 Hard Drive
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Optical Drive: 8X Ultra Slim DVDRW Internal Drive (CD-140-104)
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Internal Wireless Network Card: Killer N1535 Combo (2*2 a/c)+BT4.1 M.2 type
Sound: Sound by Dynaudior Support 7.1 channel SPDIF output
WiDi Router: None
LCD Monitor: None
Cables: None
Speakers: Built-in 4x 3W speakers +1x 3 W woofer
Internal Network Card: Killer Ethernet 2500
Keyboard: Mechanical Cherry MX RED Backlit Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Built in Touch Pad with Gesture Function
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External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless Routers/Hubs: None
Bluetooth: Built-in Bluetooth
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Carrying Bag: None
AC Adapter: Dual 330W AC Adaptor w/ Connector
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I noticed one thing, I don't know if you care but this one doesn't come with the new RGB keyboard - it's only the "Red" LED keyboard, which means it's the older model GT83VR, there is a newer model now from MSI.

You might ask Fangbook when they are going to offer the new GT83VR with RGB keyboard, and other upgrades(?).

 

The rgb does not bother me much .. i tend to keep my stuff red . However every photo I see look more like the GT80 and I really hope it's the 83vr. The price is very good though ..

I have been testing the gtx1070 sli version of the gt83vr and it has been the quietest system I have had . I set my own fan curve and it's been amazing !


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Then you haven't been loading the CPU / GPU's with enough work, because it will get loud under load. Try turning on the "Full Fan" mode via the switch near the power button.

The GTX 1080's won't fit in a GT80... you should call and tell them your concern and get a definitive answer from them before ordering, instead of posting your doubts here.

Why get the dual 1080 if you already have the dual 1070? The difference in performance won't be enough to notice on the 1080p 60hz internal display.

Those 330w PSU's are a lot larger too, and the GT83VR 1080 SLI is much thicker and heavier.

Something to think about...

 

Before you do send it back could you please save and upload a copy of your GPU vBIOS for those of us in the community who are using very similar MSI 1070 GPU boards in other laptops? It would be a great help to us.

Full instructions and link to the tool are in a very recent post of mine #1713 in this thread, the whole process shouldn't take more than a few minutes, and there is no risk involved.

 

Sure no prob


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Thanks for the advice I'll call them tomo ..
you don't think th performance is much different ?

As for power brick I'll have two sets on for home and one for work . The cost diff is about 450


I just play player unknown and battlefield some times some over watch and star citizen .. so fans could be due to the light loads

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Of course the performance is different between an SLI 1070 and an SLI 1080, but IRL you won't notice the FPS increase on a 1080p 60hz screen... just more wasted frames rendered but not displayed.

The GT83vr's aren't that easy to sell 2nd hand, and you already have 1, so you don't want to be stuck with 2.

Please let us know how you like them in comparison

 

The one i have now I can stills send back


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Then you have no need to increase GPU power by getting 1080 SLI, you've got plenty of power for the games you are running.

With 1080 SLI you'll have even less load on the GPU's

 

Less load would be less heat right is i lock the frames to 100hz ? I have the screen overclocked


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IDK, you tell us when you get the 1080 SLI model, game on it and compare to the 1070 SLI, that's the best way to find out during actual use.

The 1080's draw more power at idle, have larger fans which make more noise, but IDK how it will combine for the final effect during your gaming.

Please come back and let us know how it works out

 

Will do !


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This answers my question about it being a gt83vr

http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2612-why-2-power-adapters-for-the-msi-dual-gtx-1080-laptop


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Good news

Didn't the Cyberpower site mention GT83VR anywhere on their product description? That review jumps right to the MSI naming and initially skips the Cyberpower name.

Have fun

 

Is it normal for GPU2 to be constantly flickering between voltage limit on and off and sometimes power limit? Still haven't been able to find any info on this.

 

I would assume not.....mine does not as far as I know. How are you seeing this I'll see if I can replicate.

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MSI afterburner while playing FFXIV, no overclocking on GPU. I need to figure this out soon as the 1yr warranty expires in november.

 

Guys im not sure its a right thread but im in the market for a new laptop i chose model already and now im struggling to decide if this model is worth 700$ more that the one on the bottom will the price be reflected in performance?

http://www.abt.com/product/107768/M...Gaming-Laptop-Computer-GT73VRTITANPRO425.html

http://www.microcenter.com/product/479019/GT73VR_TITAN_PRO-693_173_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black

 

Not the right thread but I'll still help you out.

The one on top, I couldn't get the link to load but I googled it and the one it came back with has an unlocked cpu and a 120htz screen or a 4k screen.

The other one seems to have the same specs but with a locked cpu.

I wish I could do a little more but I'm limited to my phone while bouncing around the garbage truck. IMO as far as I can see it depends if you are going to tune the gpu or not. The gt73's have been getting decent to good results from what I have been hearing. So that's up to you.

But that's assuming my 5 minute Google has been accurate and the models are the same with the difference of cpu's.

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Is that the only game that it is doing it on?
If it is try disabling sli and see what happens. I don't think FF14 uses sli too well.

Do you have any other games that you notice this on? Send me a list and hopefully I get home with enough time and energy to get this on my bench.

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