***The Official MSI GT83VR Titan SLI Owner's Lounge (NVIDIA GTX-1080's)***

it would certainly seem that way is how intel wanted it to be however with actual results i think otherwise. though i can't say for 100% certain cause what i use to compare was 3770k and 3940xm and that was 4 generation ago, both use very similar amount of power at similar frequency. at high clocked, which ever used less voltage came out on top and its only natural.

thats interesting to know, since i dont follow much on GPU as you can see i only see CPU side of things, mobile up until haswell generation and desktop till recent.

 

I would assume that was the case with Ivy Bridge CPUs since 3770k's TDP (77W) and 3940xm's TDP (55W) are rather closer than 6700k(91W) and 6820hk (45W). 6700k could react much better with higher voltage than 6820hk since it is binned to run at much higher voltage.

 

77 to 55w though difference is closer, in reality 77w sitll a ~40% over 55 where as actual power consumption differs like 5-10% at best depending on the chip/quality of silicon. i mean, 6700k and 3770k at same frequency and voltage result in similar power consumption with 6700k actually come out a tiny bit on top, while its still rated as 91w. (though TDP prob calculated with a more powerful iGP in mind)

the comparison for skylake, intel wanted to restrict mobile overclocking by using power throttling, because they know for a fact that they are giving crap quality silicon and knows what happens when clocked high, it'll just overheat like crazy, low frequency requires higher voltage thats just what it is. the original 45w is meant to restrict overclocking and only turbo boost for a short time, however with 6820hk is probably one of the few chip thats different and had it removed.

intel does its TDP isn't how its heat dissipation/power measured, i dont look at that much at all as ultimately each chip power consumption is different based on it's quality of silicon.

 

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Few questions about this Laptop:
1)Do we know how many M.2 Slots and 2.5" hdd Slots will the Laptop have ? What is the Maximum allowed thicknes for the 2.5" Slot. With a Laptop this big they had better Support 15mm z hight drive (there a seagate 4tb hdd in this Format)
2)Do we have any Pictures of the internals ?
3)Are the Video Cards MXM and upgradeble, or are they custom Format and non upgradeble
4)Am i getting this correctly ? Is the CPU soldered on the Motherboard ? I guess it wont matter anyways, since ist one of the best the chipsets supports.
Ist a dame shame they didnt build a HEDT LGA 20013 platform. They probably could have gotten away cooling the 130W CPU also

 

Hi Bytales,

For now, we still do not have the notebooks in hand, but it shouldn't be too much longer. Watch for Ken to post a video review, which should answer most of your questions, and this should be a clue to when shipping will start.

 

Had a chance to check out your laptop at the MSI Test drive this past week...I thought the P570WM was big, but wow! I think your going to love it. As long as it doesn't crash like the other two when i hit the auto overclock button to 4.2 ghz.

Also, your name was mention there by an MSI staff member. . Nice going.

 

Hey John,

As to the size, it about the same as the GT80S..... just a little thicker, right?

 

I believe so...It's been a while since i saw the GT80S

 

Hey Striker not sure if this okay to ask on the forum (hopefully it is), but since I know you recently sold your GT80, other than eBay can you recommend any other trustworthy options for selling laptops? Again if this is not allowed please let me know and I'll delete this right away..

 

This interesting to me also. In my country there is no chance to sell my GT80S 6QF, no one here wants to spend more than 1000 euro for a laptop, let alone "only" 4k or less.
I am seeking a way to get rid of it and be able to start a new life with a desktop one, away from msi.

 

based on the similarity closer to gt80s/80, possibly 3 M.2 slot, two being pcie NVMe interface last one being SATA 6Gbps. two 2.5" if you include ODD, one at 6Gbps while other maybe just 3Gbps, and all should max at 9.5mm or perhaps if lucky maybe 12.5mm, i doubt the 15mm would fit without modding if theres any space to mod.

2. im still waiting just like u
3. hopefully yes
4. cpu is soldered to the motherboard, it'd be nice if they decide a lga2011 cpu in it, though thats getting phased out i think starting from skylake-E its gonna be LGA2066 while xeon counter part with 6 channel memory will be more than 3000+ pins.

 

ok so i am looking at buying a gt83 is the 1080 and the locked cpu worth 1000 dollars or should i buy the 1070 version?

Also can some one recommend some displays for use with the gt83vr?

 

i am trying to get my head around why these sku's are setup this way as well... so i might as well ask
as noted the sli-069 comes with the i7 6820 hk - (unlocked multiplier) while the sli-024 comes with 6920hq (200 mhz faster but locked multiplier) ..the other difference seems to be 2*230 watte bricks for the 6820hk.... but 2*330 watt bricks for the 6920hq. 6920hq comes with 2400 speed drr, versus 2133 speed for the 6820....2 year warranty for the 6920, 1 year warranty for the 6820..
so it seams the cpu that overclocks via multiplier gets slower ram and smaller power bricks? can someone explain to me why this makes sense?
https://us.msi.com/pdf/nb/GT83VR TITAN SLI-024.pdf
https://us.msi.com/pdf/nb/GT83VR Titan SLI-069.pdf

to confuse things further Newegg lists both skus as having 330 watt bricks....

so which is it and why is the overclockable cpu cheaper? i am missing some factor?

 

From all the info I have gathered, it is about half an inch thicker. It makes my GT80 look slim haha

 

The guy with the black MSI shirt and MSI hat knew of you @-=$tR|k3r=- ....I forget his name.

 

ok so new egg has a
MSI 18.4" GT83VR Titan SLI-069 Intel Core i7 6820HK (2.70 GHz)
with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 SLI 64 GB Memory 1 TB SSD 1 TB HDD for $4799.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16834154306

is this real?

 

lol bigger the better. sounds awesome with more room easier for mod.

good find man. 6820hk unlocked with 1080 sli. no point getting 6920 if stuck at a certain frequency.

 

well it's ordered dose not ship till 9/5 but it's the configuration i hoped for. and for $200 less

 

Says pre order.
9-5-2016 Is the expected date...

 

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX63414

 

We also carry it, but it's on pre-order right now.
http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/MSI-GT83VR-Titan-SLI-2-Gaming-Laptop---Preorder

 

you're with ibuypower?

 

Yes, That I am. Are you ready to make that purchase.

 

Hi. Does ibuypower have these in stock right now or is this just a pre-order for now?

 

lol ibuypower doing benching with team pure, awkward combination haha.

the p570wm no i bought another with just 1 GPU and a xeon for 2k.

 

Not yet, it's pre order for the moment.

 

Ah I see, thank you!

 

No problem.

 

never knew you own ibuypower lol. unlike meaker it doesnt show in your signature.

 

I don't own ibuypower.

 

21 Aug 2016 - Most Powerful NB Cooling of Cooler Boost Titan for GT83VR and GT73VR

(linked for posterity, in the thread's first post)

 

nice... so GT73 and GT83 still use MXM afterall...

 

Yes, they stayed with MXM, it's just that the shapes may have change a bit from the 980N's. And some of the component placements as well.

 

Should be nice..... can't wait to test this beast!

 

Though most got used to get owned by John it doesn't mean he actually owns them.

 

Good thing the cpu is not a deal breaker for you.
You know I'm going to want a few bench marks out of you at higher than stock right. Just keep that in mind.

 

preferably higher than 4.4ghz, if possible you do get silicon lottery

 

Don't buy MSI. Look what happen on gt80 where the commitment to upgrades is not kept!!!! Be aware before invest 5000 usd/€

 

Well, @-=$tR|k3r=- will be the first to tell you that bench marking comes last on his list. So that 4.4 ghz over clock may take a bit.

 

i thought the commitment was kept. it went from 980m to 980 now to 1080? was the 1080 not capable of fitting into gt80 or 80s? plus i believe it was 2 generation, 980m gen 1, 980 gen2 just same technology but still two different generation lol.

 

hows ur g52vs, 6820hk capable of high oc?

 

@ole!!! , please stop, it's not nice to tease people that have lost $XXXX's because they were lied to, and to make fun of them about it.

You know darn well that the MSI promised upgrade of 2 generations of MXM GPU's started with Pascal.

MSI never made an upgrade kit within Maxwell for Maxwell GPU owners, there wasn't an upgrade kit from 970m to 980m, or 980m to 980. People asked MSI about this and MSI said upgrade kits will start with Pascal the next generation of GPU's from Nvidia.

There weren't any upgrade kits except for pre-980m to 980m.

MSI totally left us high and dry without any of the promised upgrades.

Update: MSI has announced a trade-in program for GT72/GT80 owners:

Official MSI News, Events, and all things MSI.....
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ents-and-all-things-msi.795144/#post-10326272

We started a thread for GT72/GT80 owners to discuss the upgrades:

GT72/GT72S and GT80/GT80S Owners GPU Upgrade Discussion
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...0-gt80s-owners-gpu-upgrade-discussion.795236/

 

they meant generations as in Kepler > Maxwell > Pascal. GT72 received the first upgrade kit idea when it went from 880m to 980m. GT72 and GT80 were then promised 2 generation upgrades. GT80 launched with 980m, and 980 was not offered nor considered as an upgrade or a gen, nor an upgrade kit.

We are waiting, for the time being, until MSI comes with news regarding upgrade kits for us. As of right now we have sent messages, and made contact through various media. We know they have read our messages and all, so it is a matter of time I guess. We just have to be consistent, patient and not let go of the situation.

 

ryzeki, you saw the GT80 videos, the news reported at the GT80 release, the GT80 that was released with the 980m/970m/965m, and it was stated then there were 2 generations of GPU upgrades promised for that GT80.

980m/970m/965m => Pascal
Pascal => ?

Kepler wasn't involved in the GT80.

And, MSI has already blown it, they have told people to forget upgrades, and buy a new Pascal laptop.

If MSI intended on providing upgrade kits they would have a plan in place to tell people, not tell them to buy a new Pascal laptop instead.

If MSI pulls out an upgrade kit, I am ready to reconsider.

For now, MSI is dead to me.

Please correct your misconceptions

 

That's why I said that the original GT72 was the one that launched the upgrade kit idea. After that happened ,GT72 and GT80 were both then promised upgrades, but this was a future event.

 

I made the mistake of saying "We" on my post. I can't speak for you and you are very right to consider MSI "dead" to you. That's not how i feel at all and I will refrain to pretend others feel like me. I will wait until an official answer and will keep pushing for information.

 

Yeah, but that's not how people that don't read for comprehension will take it, they will associate it with all the MSI models. Sad but true. I would leave Kepler out the count when discussing GT80's.

GT72's may be another story, but I don't know if the "2 generations" talk started with the 880 upgrade - I think that promise / proclimation came out with the 980m laptops.

The same Maxwell => Pascal => ? 2 Generation promise applies to the GT72 series that shipped with the 980m/970m/965m series.

Thanks for the details, I did enjoy them

 

not my intention bro. but my opinion stands, i considered a generation = 1yr, which is usually when new gpu comes out. i mean, even though kabylake and skylake are pretty much similar in almost a lot of ways, they are still two generation as still differ by a bit, strictly performance wise, only few% at best. now compare 980m to 980, 980 sure is heck a lot more powerful with more graphics core.

gt80 is capable of taking in 980m but since i dont own it i donno if it can take 980, iirc gt80/80s would be very similar.

its strange how u'd consider people think they got cheated and lost money but when intel pull stupid stunt like selling crappy silicon u'd consider it as buying a non overheating product lol, again different opinion, its not good to assume i am making fun of people.

 

people got to understand, they are buying laptop. besides msi doesn't sell GPU, doesnt make the interface any different. form factor can be changed and asus does it a lot, rather almost every generation they try to do that. if nvidia doesn't wish to have 1080m chip release the classic mxm 3.0 form factor, msi could TRY to buy chip and make the pcb themselves. desktop GPU die is much bigger than laptop gpu die right? 980 vs 980m can someone confirm this, if so they it explain why need a bigger pcb.