***The Official MSI GT83VR Titan SLI Owner's Lounge (NVIDIA GTX-1080's)***

need more cores processing power, or simply more cache to hold more of those info rather than going into ram. pls give us a desktop HEDT CPU next..

 

Ugh, my poor notebook.....Ken, you didn't loose any of those screws, did you?

 

Don't worry, it has so many that one or two missing won't be a problem

 

dont worry....your workout weights with dumbell>barbell adapter will be fine..as for that smaller box with the screen....

 

I don't know yet since I haven't start to put it back.

 

Well, he doesn't have to worry about the warranty sticker now.

 

You mean the illegal one?

 

What do you mean by " illegal one"?

Let me put this a little better....

That sticker only really comes into play if you "Break" said item while trying to "Mod" it, then run and try to claim a warranty.

 

So newegg is closed today I want my laptop sigh...

 

Regardless of their warranty policy actually allowing you to change stuff inside, it's still illegal by US Law.

 

So they say. And until they are challenged in court with a class action lawsuit. "still illegal by US Law." means nothing.

But let me know when you start that so I can jump on board.

 

Here is a good article on why people are still scared to rip that sticker off and open it up. Only applies to the US.
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/warranty-void-if-removed-stickers-are-illegal
or from the FTC itself, https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blogs/business-blog/2015/06/latest-word-warranties

But is it worth the risk? I think so, if you're careful.

 

Exactly what I had mentioned. Nice find.

 

I should have added I'm no lawyer, so you're on your own if you choose to tear it off

 

@ -=$tR|k3r=-

Any news on the new GT83? Have you received it yet?

 

Was really hoping for major improvements, and for possible breach of that 40 fps limit on the combined tests in firestrike.... I seem to score about the same in my GT80s in the combined test as someone with a dual 1080 notebook.....
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10072213

I wonder.. HOW was THIS achieved?
http://www.3dmark.com/search#/?mode.../2005/1104/29699?minScore=26400&cpuName=Intel Core i7-6700K&gpuName=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (Notebook)

 

Combined test is not good with SLI. It is way more affected in single GPU with large amounts of memory bandwidth. Test single GPU with heavy overclocks and you will see. A single older 980ti has less gaming power on stock than SLI 980, but their combined score is higher. Best advice is to use different benchmarks for different points to show off. There is no one single benchmark to rule them all.

Also, graphics score of 1070 and 1080 on stock are way ahead of 980m/ or even 980 SLI, by a good marging.

 

Nothing yet, haven't heard a word.....heck, since the video, I haven't even heard if it's back together yet, LOL!

 

Ken is busy playing some games to test it fully, don't worry as soon as he finishes playing, he will send it to you

 

Hey, that's one of my scores there.

 

*laughs* ... it's good to be King

 

King of Kings.

And actually. It's pretty damn expensive to hold that title also.

 

Are you really thinking to spend 5k to msi? Be really sure what are doing for a notebook you could just change ram and disks after you buy...like a standard dell!!!

 

Trade ins!

 

the GPUs aren't soldered are they? so only cpu can't be upgraded at this point no?

 

They have never been soldered

 

Dell doesn't have sli GPUs or build quality --- they use the lowest bidder to build their computers

 

yep the new dell alienware looks like a joke. making it thinner which is for mediocre gamers, everything inside is soldered i believe.

gt83vr only has cpu soldered, where as asus gx800 and acer 21x has everything soldered other than ram and storage.

 

Seriously? they are all soldered now?


Is anyone still on the gt80 thread anymore??????

 

Hey, does anyone have one of these in their hands yet? i was hearing supposedly they throttle under load and i was looking to confirm with owners.
also how well does the 6820hk stack up vs the 6700k for cpu intensive games?

 

There's no CPU throttling using 6820HK on GT83VR.
The performance on 6820HK is about 1972 points less than 6700K in Passmark benchmark.

 

OC 6820HK or 6920HQ to 4.0ghz on 4 cores to make it a more fair test, and re-run Passmark, it should get a little closer.

In gaming and real work, the difference even with an extreme OC on the 6700K won't be noticeable, except for the added Wind Noise from the 6700K CPU fan

 

LOL! "The Wind Noise", LOL!

 

LOL, not every customer that purchases a super PC overclocks.

 

Just every single one of us

It's kind of part and parcel with high end laptops, especially if they make a point of OC'ing in their product marketing tools.

The MSI website and videos all promote OC'ing.

Intel made a big deal about OC'ing with the Skylake release - "we even came out with K CPU's dedicated to the Overclocking enthusiasts".

The 6820HK and 6920HQ are both able to be tuned for more performance, and at stock they aren't up to their full potential, which is what buyers cross-brand shopping want to see to help them cinch their decisions.

You'll sell more laptops if you make them more enticing. And, right now many of us are waiting for someone to do just this kind of testing so we know what we are getting ourselves into before buying.

I want to make it clear I really appreciate the videos as they are and they are awesome as they are - it's just that we would love them to also be OC / tuned awesome too.

Thanks again for making the videos

 

Ok. That sounds pretty good.

I have been debating between this machine and the p870dm3.

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Those mobile CPUs are more comparable (except XTU) to my 4790K with a decent overclock. The 6700K with good firmware (Prema's bios/uefi) kills them even when overclocked to equal at 4.0-4.2. This is talking bench scores, though. Meanwhile, 4.5 is easy to get on the 6700K. How noticeable? Can't say. Really depends on your usage. If you need the extra power, it will be noticeable. If you do basic computing, not so much. Frame or two in games, which is more bragging rights at that point. If you don't OC the mobile, no contest, the 6700K wins...

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Come on Kevin, The only time you hear that line is when someone is doing an rma or a sale.

 

So true, the "essential" overclocking isn't so essential, except for fun and to prove to yourself the parts aren't flaky when checking for faults in the return period.

Otherwise it just gives you are warm fuzzy feeling that you did something to control and improve your laptop.

I do it for those reasons, not for actual improvement in performance in games.

I'm talking about the "allowed / safe" OC within the limits of the BIOS / vbios.

 

No I'm not.

 

I edited out your comment, as I don't want to be putting words in your mouth you didn't intend to say.

Please explain your comment for us, so we all know what you really meant.

I took it as denying they OC'd, and since OC'ing within the normal BIOS/vbios settings is "allowed / safe", I took it to mean the extreme and potential abusive OC done through replacing the BIOS/vbios to remove those "allowed / safe" limits.

But, I guess not, so what did you mean to say?

 

Thanks.

It's simple.
Example Only!

1: Hmscott buys GT80 from us.
2: Hmscott over clocks said laptop.
3: Then tries to rma said laptop. We ask, a simple question. Did you overclock said laptop? You reply, no I did not overclock said laptop.
4: We then go an look up said comments on nbr forums where we find you did in fact over clock said laptop.
5: And we then wonder why said person would not be truthful. Since the only reason we asked was we needed to fill in a checkbox on the rma request. The rma was going to go through regardless, but to make the case look better said person says what they think someone wants to hear.
6: Now if you went and dropped said laptop in a bucket of water, well then request would be denied.

This is what happens about 98 percent of the time with high end laptops. I'm not saying everyone goes and overclocks for a performance gain, but they all do in fact test the water. That is a fact if your laptop comes with preinstalled overclocking software.
And over clock is an over clock no matter how one choose to look at it.

Now the answer to your question is....
It's more of an inside joke to people who sale products and hear every excuse known to man on trying to rma something.

Side note:
In my years of over clocking laptops... I have had to actually pay for:
1 980M
2 Motherboards
1 580M
1 680M
2 780M's
All because of user error. And it was explained so that it didn't affect my warranty.

 

Thanks for the detailed explanation

That's what I thought it was all about, an inside joke about how people lie about something so simple to disprove that they didn't need to lie about in the first place.

I went one step further to make the point that OC'ing within the "allowed / safe" realm of the stock BIOS/vbios isn't something they should be afraid admitting - since it wouldn't do anything to the laptop parts.

But, I guess you and your shop don't hold the vbios/BIOS replacements that get rid of the "safeties" of the stock BIOS as dangerous either?

They are both safe in your eyes?

So if someone said they replaced the BIOS/vbios to unlock TDP and be able to increase voltage on the CPU / GPU that wouldn't void their warranty with your shop?

 

As to the trick question.

We found that you tampered with the motherboard. Do you wish to buy a new one to replace the one you fried?
You burnt a mosfet because you put the heat sink on incorrectly, do you wish to buy a new gpu?

If you refuse, your warranty is then voided and your serial number is blacklisted. Warranty covers parts and labor. And in that instance it would cover labor.

Edit:
Have a second look at prior post....

 

Actually it wasn't a trick question, I really wanted to know if you and your shop don't penalize people for using non-stock BIOS/vbios, which is why those using that extreme OC method might not want to admit to doing so.

The other points are understood, if you are pulling apart your laptop to re-paste or otherwise modify your laptop you are risking your warranty at best - if you break something while doing the work or due to that work - the warranty is voided. That's understood.

It's that grey area of OC'ing that people aren't sure about.

Is OC'ing while using the vendor supplied tools using the vendor supplied vbios/BIOS considered ok?

Is OC'ing while using non-vendor supplied BIOS/vbios considered abuse and not covered under the standard warranty?

I have always believed the 1st was ok, as confirmed by vendors, and the 2nd was not ok as confirmed by vendors.

Is it the same with you and your shop?

 

Let me repost this here.

Side note:
In my years of over clocking laptops... I have had to actually pay for:
NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY
1 980M
2 Motherboards
1 580M
1 680M
2 780M's
All because of user error. And it was explained so that it didn't affect my warranty.

I'm different in....
If this is not covered under warranty for what I did, how much to replace.

Not sit back and complain and ask for free all the time. This is a very expensive hobby which will call for the user to actually have to pay. I have no problem with that. Do you? I'm just asking.

My shop is not Ibuypower if that is what you are referring too.

 

Never mind, I can see you won't answer the question as posed directly to you.

 

If you say so.

 

No, you said so yourself by giving us a bunch of unrelated information instead of answering the question. That's so.

 

Actually it's only you i'm afraid.

But you have a nice day!