***The Official NEW 2019 MSI GT75 TITAN Owner’s Lounge, Intel Core i9, NVIDIA RTX 2080***

Man, this system is going to drive many crazy.

 

So is this the area 51 killer? ahahaha.

I am interested in how it performs with 4 fans. Though my days of massive laptops are most likely over.

 

Is it confirmed that the GT76 have soldered on graphics or not? Thanks.

 

I don't think it's confirmed, though no GT has soldered graphics. And considering they went with a similar futuristic look like an alienware, and also using socketed CPU, it's probably going to be a 200w MXM GPU as well.

All in all, this might be a great system.

 

It will be a direct competition for Dell Alienware Area 51M.

 

I suppose you are now considering it?

 

I don't have money anymore.
And I'm not going to ask for a "review sample" or donations either, but if someone wants me to review one on a review sample.....I'll gladly put my 9900K in there and run prime95 on it!
@Donald@HIDevolution I'm looking at you, brother

(Shameless plug..I REALLY would like one. But you saw what happened with the Alienware 51m's exploding @Papusan
I don't think MSI is that clueless. The Chinese Baidu users said they redesigned the mainboard for the GT73+ series, which is why you don't see them going up in smoke like the GT72S and older versions did.

But *IF* I were considering such a thing, I would want to know the "MSI Battery Boost" problem or not, or the Current Limit "shutoff" problem (how many amps can you draw before the VRM's shut off)--and this BYPASSES the ICCMAX---VRM cutoff is controlled by "VRM Vcore Current Protection" on desktops (This is NOT ICCMAX--ICCMAX only controls throttling)" plus the amps reading on ICCMAX is based on VID also, not on actual current going through the VRM's.

SVET thinks that the GT73VR has a hardwired 70 amp VRM shutoff trigger, but whether this is bios or EC controlled he doesn't know yet.

 

Wait this is a 15.6 inch laptop? Not a replacement of the GT75 at 17.3 inch?

Also isn't the 2080 in the current GT75 already 200w? Anyone?

 

150w from what I know.

 

GT73VR/GT75VR/GT75 Titan 1080 is 200W. (but using 150W "Extreme power limit 1" value (in pascal bios editor) of 16200 improperly, which causes some games to TDP throttle at 155W when they shouldn't--PUBG was doing this)--correct value is 19200.

GT83VR / 16L13/Tornado F5 is 150W.

 

And what about GT75 2080?

 

150W

 

Too bad it's a BGA GPU. They took one step forward with a LGA CPU and 3 steps back with the rest. BGA GPU, no mechanical keyboard, less storage devices than the GT75.

 

Yet MSI changes their MXM form factor every new architecture so there's no upgrading to future generations either way.

 

On the GPU, any design change on the form factor should be Nvidia's decision, because all manufacturers including MSI need to follow Nvidia's reference design guideline to make their own, right?

 

Nvidia deprecated the MXM reference design since Pascal, that's why every ODM makes their own boards now. Still, MSI could've done much better, like how Clevo kept the same MXM board shape from Pascal to Turing, while MSI had like 10 different designs.

 

agreed. might as well just BGA and LOWER THE GOD DAMN PRICE.

 

Anyone have the Intel 9980hk? Wanted to know the difference between that vs the 9700k. Looking at either this machine vs a clevo. I've had my GT80 now and it's getting outdated.

 

Cinebench single about equal, multi 1742 9980HK vs. 1449 9700K.

 

Pascal equipped Clevos still weren't able to upgrade to Turing GPUs, correct?

 

They were. You needed an updated BIOS and heatsink modification (shimming/thermal pads/sanding) if you didn’t swap out the whole heatsink.

 

Any word on the ghosting issue? I am on the fence of getting a GT75 but don't wanna deal with inverse ghosting. The Nvidia thread has completely died regarding it. Is this a panel issue that's been fixed? Or a driver issue which some say isn't the case.

 

I pop the AUO panel back in every driver update to check. The issue is still present.

 

any advise just buy GT 75 with i7 9750H, 512GB SSD, 4K display 16GB ram and RTX 2070, or just wait for GT76 ? thats have same speck with GT76 2070 version, but better looking on GT76, with minus mechanical keyboard, and soldered GPU ...

 

No one can recommend the GT76 before it is out and reviewed.

 

Can anyone here take a look at their GT75 and see if the CFM rating is labeled on the fan?

Would appreciate it greatly thanks!

 

CFM is normally not printed on the label, but model # may contain some clues if we can find its specs.

 

Odd, must be something trended in MSI selected fans or maybe its just a thing with 12v fans.

Dell fans are typically labeled with CFM ratings or at least in the laptops I have used with them.

Here is one such model

AAVID thermalloy PABD19735BM 0.65A, 12VDC -N390/N391

Then the popular alternative

ADDA Part Number AB07512HX26DB00(00CWG750)

 

Here it is.
E33-2100030-MC2

 

Thanks but I think I just may go for the ADDA model since while its huge, its for the same type of exhaust as mine, 1 fan single exhaust instead of 1 fan dual exhaust.

 

Well it happened I finally broke down and purchased from HIDevolution a GT75 titan. In fact, I am on it right now.. Had a few hiccups as I had 2 Nvme Pcie drives which were in raid 0 in a GT83 titan that pooped out. So pulled the drives in anticipation of getting this newer model. UEFI drives so had to clear them out as they would not just boot like in several GT83's.

Just got it all together and running smoothly at least for the moment. Still have to get a few things worked out. But, "It is alive".

Took awhile to get all the drives worked on and into the configuration I wanted. I actually had to call MSI and HID to get some answers..

#Donald@hidevolution was great and helped with the purchase. Big shout out to him. I'll come back later gotta head to the office.

 

Hi Great numbers. You inspired me to get a GT75 and to progress in somewhere the same direction. How did you lay out in the drives to get these numbers? In other words which drives went where. Thanks

 

i have 3x 970 evo 2TB in the 3 slot side and 2x intel 760p 2TB in the 2 slots to your left corner. this result was by combining 2x of the 970 with 2x of the intel ( all 4 set up in raid together ) i tried putting all 5 NVMEs in raid but results were bad. best result was by only 4 of them in raid. i hope i explained good.

 

You explained perfectly. Thanks

I have 2, Intel 760 1tb and 1 PM981 Samsung 1tb drive on the side with 3 slots and 2, Samsung PM981 1 Tb on the 2 slots (left side). and 1 SanDisk ultra SSD SATA 2 tb in the bay under the 3 PCIe M.2 slots.

I used Crystal disk to run benchmarks before and after the Sandisk SSD sata install and the bench changed only slightly.

the 2 Samsung drives on the left spit out 6543.9 reads, and 4791.3 write, the 3 combined drives of the Samsung PM981 and 2) 760's spit out 3203.3 reads, and 2880.9 writes. the Sandisk ssd spit out, 560.4 reads, and 523.0 writes.

6 total drives installed.

I uploaded photos of the results but awaiting approval since I'm new here I guess.

 

I haven't noticed anything odd about the fidelity of the display, looks like a normal AUO display:

Spoiler: hwinfo Monitor info

Probably not going to be able to load those specific games for quite a while if at all, but if I see anything odd in any other game I'll let you know.

If it is a matter of tuning matching panel settings it could vary by individual laptop so YMMV as to what others are seeing with their unit.

I'd suggest buying locally if you can and explain the problem to the seller and that you'd like to have an acceptance test at their store before you walk out with it - I've done that often and they are happy to do so - that way you can load the game and test it before accepting it. Also there is usually a 7 day to 30 day return period and work out the restocking fee ahead of time.

If you buy from a boutique vendor you can get special circumstances testing from many of them - that's what they do - to pretest your particular unit before it leaves for that ghosting.

If you buy a few options for them to install - giving them a reason to open the box before shipping then they can check for this issue, and maybe buy their "display guarantee" usually for dead pixels to also cover this screen misconfiguration - allowing return if you find it does have the problem in your eye's after receiving it.

If the boutique vendor can swap display type to see if that one works better? IDK what that would be but you could ask them.

As an aside, perfection in laptop display's is rare, and especially with new technology like 144hz laptop screens, there will be problems at the leading edge of delivery of new technology, so another choice would be to wait and buy later after the technology has matured a bit - even if it's only due to the maker's inexperience in adapting the technology to their builds.

I've learned over the years to adapt to any imperfections in the hardware I use for work and home, unless it's a major functional failure - which in the area of display fidelity can be subjective - for example I adapt to light bleed by knowing it's luck of the draw and adjust / tune / tweak rather than return an otherwise great laptop (or display). Nothings perfect, but if you learn the idiosyncratic behavior of an equipment failure range you can tune and run outside it. For light bleed I avoid dark backgrounds, avoid dark bars at left / right / top / bottom (stretch video to fit display), and tune brightness and contrast (GPU adjustments + display adjustments) so as to not make it worse.

In this case it sounds like you could avoid the "range of FPS" situation where it happens and detune eye candy in the game settings to bump up the FPS outside of that ghosting range - and make sure FPS is within functional Gsync range. If you can tune the usage to be outside that panels quirks it's like it's not happening - because it isn't. Also try turning off or reduce motion blur setting, why make the ghosting effects worse by adding motion blur? Or, maybe adding more motion blur will make it less noticeable? Experiment with settings to adapt.

Display peeking can be maddening, so if you are a bit OCD or sensitive to seeing problems with display's, maybe for your own peace of mind, don't chance it.

Good luck!

 

Thanks for the detailed reply. Yeah I can always wait for the tech to mature, but I don't wanna wait too long. I mean take a look at what they did with the GT76...no mechanical keyboard, less storage devices, and less features. I don't wanna wait for a "perfect" panel but be stuck with a device that isn't up to snuff for what I am paying for. I am OCD though and if it comes to some horrible inverse ghosting, that's something that will bother me a a lot.

Anyways, I am not asking for specific games. Just when you get around to gaming on it, please let me know if you notice anything. Thanks.

 

I would be surprised if MSI dropped the GT75 progression for the GT76. The HK/H laptop CPU's will continue, while the use of a desktop CPU in a laptop is a bit of a lark for MSI - I hope it continues - and branches quickly into PGA AMD Ryzen 3 and future AMD desktop CPU's, but there will be a place for Intel / AMD laptop CPU's moving forward too.

The GT75 9th generation laptops are a couple of months away and perhaps a new rev / generation of display and/or better calibration will be in that new model.

Those owners actually seeing this issue should report it to MSI as the feedback will make it back to production / engineering - even if they don't intend on RMA'ing their laptop - or even if they are returning it due to the problem, reporting problems like this will help direct future versions of MSI gaming laptops and screen selection.

BTW, I did notice the the screen in this GT75 shows an AUO screen manufacturing date from Week 16 2017... if that is the real manufacturing date then it's old stock. As you collect data on the problem look for newer dated displays, that might indicate a "fixed" rev of the display.

 

Wait are you sure of this? I know they already offer the GT75 with a 9750h and a 2070 but if they come out with a 9980h or 9980hk with a 2080 then I will gladly hold off. I thought that MSI replaces their GT lineup with the new ones? When the GT75 came out, resellers stopped selling the GT73. But yeah I guess you are right. The GT76 is a niche high end product and they will probably continue to sell the GT75 with h/hk processors along with it. I do know the GT76 uses a Chi-mei 144hz panel as opposed to an AUO one. Even though both the GT75 and GT76 are 1080p 144hz panels. Although apparently according to the recent @GenTechPC video of the GT76, it's not Gsync enabled. Maybe MSI knew about the panel issues with the GT75 and switched suppliers? Who knows.

But yeah if the display manufacturer date is different, maybe they fixed it.

 

If MSI EOLs the GT75, I guess I'll be done with MSI when it's time to upgrade next year.

No way am I going back to Optimus.

 

Hiya,
We are considering getting another MSI Titan laptop. We currently have the GT75 Titan 8RG, but we consider getting either this one, so GT75 Titan 9SG or the GT76.
Any advice which one to get. I worry that the GT76 may get too hot and loud. Also I wonder if the GT75 has 10GB ethernet like our current GT75 8RG has.

 

the base core clock is better on the GT76 as is the highest speed.

I chose the GT75 because is will hold 6 drives and use them all. the second set of drives (set of 2 in there own space) will run at crazy speeds vs the other 3 drives under the heat sink.. Under these 3 drives is also a bay for an Hdd or ssd.

 

i just need some clarification because people on here are mentioning intel drives. im buying the 75 mainly for gaming and storage purposes but i will not be using raid. can i still utilize all 5 m.2 drive bays without raid or intel sticks? also, has the issue with inverse ghosting been resolved. is it noticeable?

 

Now i am using 5x samsung 970 Evo plus 2TB without raid and works perfect. about the ghosting thing, i do not notice it at all.

 

great to hear. thanks for that.

 

Do anyone know if the 17.3 inch 240Hz screen that comes with the gt76 could work in the gt75 8sg?

 

Ho yeah, if they came out with a refresh of the GT75 with a 9980HK and RTX 2080, and possibly a 240Hz display, I would buy that in a shot.

I put in an order for a GT76 not too long ago, with the 9900K and 2080, but decided to cancel because I still had some issues/question marks about the changes (G-Sync being replaced by Optimus, no mechanical keyboard, the second pair of fans that are difficult to access for maintenance, etc.), and wanted to evaluate some more reviews/feedback for this new machine.

The hypothetical GT75 you are describing would fit my needs/wants to a T.

Hey, you listening, MSI?

 

Yeap my GT75-8RG is just about the same. I can keep my temps lower when I am deployed cause I keep my hotel at around 20-21c.

 

HID offers the GT75 with 9980hk / RTX2080 / FHD GSync 144hz. They just order the FHD panel as a spare part and perform the swap in house. The price is $4399, which is more than the very similar spec GT76 DT-006, but may be worth it for GSync and the mechanical keyboard.

 

I have been using Area 51m with 9700k 2080 for four months and recently was able get a decent deal on a GT75.

Someone sold me a GT75 with 8950HK, 2080 and 32gb ram, and more importantly, it came with 20 months warranty and only cost me $2600.

Very satisfied with 8950HK, which can run any games at 4.5ghz with ease. The 4K screen is great and the mechanical keyboard is the biggest surprise.

The laptop comes with 1TB SSD and I just added a 2TB intel 660p and a 512GB SX8200pro (which I removed from my old GE75). Basically I can now download all the games I want to the 3.5TB SSD.

Only complaint is that I was only able to overclock the ram from 2666 c19 to 2800 c19 and I was so surprise that there is no xmp nor voltage control for ram in the bios.

I told my friend my experience with my GT75 and he has just ordered a GT75 with 9980HK for $3750. We choose GT75 over GT76 for its nvme slots, mechanical keyboard and better thermal solution.