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Hmmm is it normal that running raid the hard drive access light is never flashing now? bit odd...

Edit: new fault seems my hdd activity led is dead...

Messing with RST drivers got some better results on 4K

 

Would you consider using word, social networking and the occasional youtube basic usage? (Just wanna make sure haha)

 

Yes:thumbsup:

 

Thanks for the replies guys

 

My nstech fan is silent too like ryzeki's



I'm still with the stock bios and drivers. The only upgrade I'm waiting for now is those Intel 525s (hoping their price falls with the release of the 530 series). A pair of 180GB is enough.
There is a touchpad gesture I can't really disable. When you swipe right to left, a bar appears on the right side of the screen along with the time and date on the lower left. Any way to disable that? It's really annoying, especially when watching movies full screen..

 

As far as I am aware, you can't disable it but I could be wrong. However, that only happens if you start at the very edge (You are supposed to start on the palmrest) and then swipe. So, if you avoid going to the very edge you should be good.

 

Hi, I have the G60-2od stock except for 3 plextor 256gb in raid 0, samsung 840 pro as secondary hard drive and 32gb of ram, and IC Diamond 24 Carat Thermal Compound on GPU and CPU, but I get 7.2 instead of the 7.6 you get on the graphics. any ideas why? (battery is on to use the hybrid power).
thanks

 

Hmmm... well this is weird. I have been running games fine since I got this laptop, but today my GPU is fluctuating a LOT. Any idea what could be causing this? I am on gaming mode with an OC on my CPU and GPU. I took away both overclocks and still had fluctuations. Plugged in, with and without hybrid power.



Edit: My CPU clock is fluctuating while this is happening too.


Temps don't seem to be an issue, reaching a high of 80 for both my CPU and GPU.

 

I just received my gt60 without any bag to carry. So I gonna buy a backpack for my laptop. The only prob is that I have nothing to carry my laptop to the store to check whether my Gt60 is fit or not. Currently consider some TNF backpack and the rush 24 from 5.11 tactical. Is there any suggestion? Anyone try the rush 24 for gt60? Thanks in advance

 

This is what I use. I got it for $70 including shipping (but not from thier website; I guess you can search on amazon and other stores) Briefcases : Flight Checkpoint Friendly Laptop Bag. It is very light, very compact (you can look at youtube video), very high quality and protective, it fits a lot of stuff inside and still does not make your back look heavy / bulky, totally recommended.

I also have a samsonite backpack and handbag, but those are way much more expensive...

 

Have you changed drivers or power settings recently? Are 80 your highest temps?

 

Get two Plextors M5M's 256GB's they are better than the intel 525's see the ssdreview.com website.

I guess its down to luck right on the NSTech fans. I'm on my second. and its got the buzz, ball bear sounds this time round!! grrrr. I have now ordered a T&T fan from ebay as the seller here is out of stock (Due to bad NStech fans?? People buying T&T's up?)

On headphones you can here the sound in this video (Second fan my friend ordered but never installed)

By the way I tried to disassemble one, but how without breaking it? I undid he 4 screws. Tried to pll of the fan blades but it felt like I was going to break it all

Nice mods similar to mine. But I have no need for 32GB, I wanted 3 x 256GB plextors but a little too much $$ for me. Can you please do a As SSD becnmark run. So I can compair your raid0 speeds?

My updated WEI Win8 scores are in my avatar. Yours are low on GFX as you must have run it with the iGPU. I ran it through my monitor so it was on the 780M.

Here's a few pics of my fun with the GT60




I removed the sticker on the NStech fan and put some grease in it. (Silicone, Dielectric compound) No real change. 3rd time lucky maybe? T&T ordered here: New Original CPU FAN for MSI GT60 GT70 GT783 GT685 GT780 GX660 GX680 GX780 | eBay

Any news on an unlocked bios that allows us to ditch XTU and unlock the multipliers without it?

 

That is the EXACT same sounds I was having on my GT70.
They replaced it with the TT and its much much better. I think there was a long run of faulty noisy ntech fans. I suggest the TT whenever possible/

 

Glad to hear the T&T is good. I know exactly what it sounds like to describe it perfectly now. Why i did not remember before. I had an old dying harddrive from my pentium 2 days. It had a failing spindle motor in the HDD Its sounds EXACTLY like that. (The new second NSTech fan at least does)

Can't want for the T&T fan to arrive.

My only fault once my Blu ray burner arrives will be my HDD led light is dead. Or is that normal in Raid mode? NO led activity light?

 

That is because you are putting the grease in the wrong place. The 2 barrels are inside the fan, after you remove the white plastic locker / washer. That grease has no relevance to the sound as it comes from the barrels...

You have to remove the grease, remove the washer, slide down the blades, they come out very easily after removing the locker / plastic washer.

You have one barrel right below the locker / washer and another one inside the blades pushed up by a spring. Those may need some grease. It will reduce the noise a bit but not noticeable. Best is to do the combination I have described earlier with both the fans when you get the T&T one.

 

Ah so thats why It had no effect on two fans Lol. So I need to remove the sticker and then remove the washer in there? Then the fan blade will just drop out?

Many thanks you guys are so every helpful on my quest to make my GT60 perfect for me .

 

Please look at the post # 1419 & 1432

 

No, I've been using the same drivers for about 2 weeks. The highest my temps have reached is 89 on the GPU and 86 on the CPU.

 

BTW I have 5 NSTECH fans on stock and just tested them . They are free from issue shown on the movie.

 

FYI people using RAID0 mSata set ups. I found my TRIM was not working on Raid using 12.8.0.1016 RST drivers. Use Trimcheck here and test if your trim is working: Index of /trimcheck

Run the app, then go to tools, optimize drives to trim. And then re-run the app. It should say trim is working.
Seemed to improve raid0 my drive a little too after trimming of course.



Best to check now and not when the drives start to slow.

 

Please contact Ken from gentechpc.com and he will solve your problem with no issues (if you need to buy an extra pair).

Someone has mentioned that he has managed to put the memory in without removing the heatsink, but I do NOT recommend it at all as you may end up breaking either something on the motherboard or the memory itself. You will probably have to repaste the GPU while having to add the extra memory in the system... I hope that helped.

 

The included ram is 1600 cl11 1.35v I believe and that speed rating should be pretty common.

 

On the topic of ram, would it be worth it to upgrade to say Kingston HyperX cl9 or Corsair Vengeance cl9. I know 16gb stock is more then enough for anyone so I would keep the size the same just change the type of ram. I've read that the jump to 16gb DDR3 1866/PC3 15000 is like only a difference of 5% in performance and for the price you would spend it isn't worth it.

 

If you want a true answer, for day to day work and gaming performance etc., no, it is not worth upgrading it. I have the Kingston hyperX at 1866 from more than a year in my alienware and there isn't much difference at all. I mean, there is nothing noticeable, my advice is not to upgrade. Those in the other hand (that Meaker recommended) it a a good deal, but again not needed, it will not change the performance of your machine...

And if you are so much into it and you want to change it / upgrade it / or call it whatever you want, don't even think on going with Corsair Vengeance. Kingston is all the way... I tried so many brands until I got stuck to Kingston hyperx from a while now. All the others have sometimes compatibility issue.

 

Thanks, that's what I figured out about ram running at 1866 MHz, was just wondering. I wasn't sure about the stock ram vs Kingston HyperX running at the same MHz, I mean its clocked at the same speeds, was just wondering what the difference was.

 

Rebuilt the fan thanks to juliant. The fault it seems is quality control on the small ball bearings. They are like skate board wheel bearings only 10x smaller.

I cleaned up and tested the bearings and 1 is not really spinning as freely as it should. So that sound is metal insides of the bearing on the shaft. Not the best. Re-oiled and assembled its less noisy but still an issue. Could also be the spring on the bearing noise.

Here's a photo incase anyone wants to attempt this to reduce fan noise.



I will try the T&T bearings in the NStech fan when my T&T one arrives.

 

I got myself a 2TB WD Green 2.5" hdd.
I tried to fit it into the lower compartment but the bottom panel does not close :cry:





Now my options are 3:

1. Sell the hdd.
2. Get an external case and use it like that.
3. Mod the bottom panel (and get a spare one incase I have to send the notebook for warranty). I can attach a small very thin vent in order to preserve air circulation.

What do you suggest?

 

I would use it with an external case, I plan on sticking TB SSDs in my machine at some point

 

Couple of samsung 1TB Evo drives would be very tasty

 

I saw that Paulow posted that he heard they are working on a bios version to allow higher PSU units. Anyone heard this or is there any truth behind it?

 

That would be fantastic! Lets dig more info.

 

MSI GT60-2OD Turbo Fan Noise with Temps. - YouTube

Thought I would make a video of the GT60s cooling capability since it seems to have been called in question in a few forums sections. As you can see, good cooling capability, zero throttling issues, and I really don't think its that noisy. The AC is off in the house, and you can hear trucks driving down the street because the windows were open. I did start the video with the cooler boost off, and the GPU hit 80C and CPU 70C. With cooler boost the GPU dropped to around 72C stable and CPU around 62C. I think this bench heats the GPU up more than 3dmark11 so seems to be a better test of cooling.

I've pasted with PK-3, and used Fujipoly pads.

Sorry about the low quality video, I shot this with my phone.

 

hi guys. It's the 1st time I use a MSI laptop. I just dont understand the meaning of SCM, is there anyway that I can modify the profile? for example on my old Asus I con choose the maximum performance range of CPU hence lower the temp of the computer. However, for my MSI laptop I saw nothing different between profiles in SCM??

 

hi guys. It's the 1st time I use a MSI laptop. I just dont understand the meaning of SCM, is there anyway that I can modify the profile? for example on my old Asus I con choose the maximum performance range of CPU hence lower the temp of the computer. However, for my MSI laptop I saw nothing different between profiles in SCM??

 

I installed a second 128GB msata drive in RAID 0 and then performed a recover using the MSI BurnRecovery via USB. When I look in Optimization Drives it displays the drive as a hard disk and wants to perform defrag. The system started with an SSD, that is what I burned to USB, so why would it treat the array like an HDD? Is there any way to resolve this without a complete re-install, and how would that help anyways since that is what I did in the beginning?

 

Run windows experience index WEI. Then windows 8 will see it as a SSD. Make sure when you did the install you had the bios set to RAID. And you created the array etc?

 

As far as I know, that's a windows 8 gesture. Quick google-ing got me this tutorial: 3 Ways to Disable Windows 8 Gestures

 

I'm using an MSI gt60 2oc and my System Control Manager seems to be very dummy. Is there anyway that I can config the cpu clock or power setting of the profile in SCM? When I choose a profile and then config in power optons, saved. Then after switching profile, it just back to default. Really annoying.

 

is 92 Celsius too hot while gaming? my cpu was at 73 max and my gpu was at 92 max.

 

I'm not sure. Yesterday, with turbo fan on, my gpu hit 94. I think I need to repaste, seems that MSI did a poor job.

 

i was playing sleeping dogs in windowed (since i'm at work). maxed out settings. without turbo fan i'm getting 93 max. with turbo fan i get around 74.

 

Just playing simcity with turbo fan on got me 94. I'm not sure how hot it would have been without turbo on, but I don't think I want to know It's weird because I have been peaking in the mid 80's until yesterday.

 

Those temps are too warm for having turbo fan on. Are you playing in a warm room or not on a desk?

 

The room varies, anywhere from 20 to 30 celsius. I'm usually not on a desk, usually it's on my lap. It would probably help to have a desk to use, but I don't have one aside from an uncomfortable dinner table. However, since I've got the laptop I've used it on my lap so I'm not sure why it would just not start getting so hot. The vents are clear too, so it's not that.

 

Without turbofan it will hit 92-93 with out of box EC, sounds like your temps are about right.

94 with turbofan is WAY too hot and needs repasting immediately.

 

hmm okay. i'm in a better state of mind now.

 

Yeah, I ordered some thermal paste off amazon, should be here in a couple days. Until then, I'm just not gonna game.

 

Made me want it now :cry: they don't ship to Ireland unfortunately. i guess i will have to wait for the reply from the sales rep.

 

Yep, assuming the game you were playing is GPU intensive, you are right in line; even after a MX3 and then a IC Diamond repaste mine will run there without turbo fan when at high constant gpu usage. The latest EC flash does bump up the fan speed a little when gaming and will help temps a few degrees, but it also bumps the idle speeds as well so it's not quite silent when doing basic office work. Manual fan control is the best option currently if noise or temps are a concern... otherwise, things stay icy cool even overclocked with turbo fan.

I bet you'll be very happy with the results, it sounds like you got a terrible factory paste job. Curious, when you do turn on turbo fan it does spin up to really fast speeds and is much noisier than normal fan speeds? Just curious so you can rule out an actual issue with the fan. I've never read about 94 with turbo fan on... Mine won't break the mid to upper 70's even with an overvolt and overclock.

Good luck!

 

I also get 93 degrees without turbofan with intensivr games eventually. With turbofan even overclocked i dont reach 88