240W PSU for MSI MS 16F2 Notebook

Soo... here I am again being a complete n00b... I can't find any suppliers online that sell a compatible 240W (19.5v -12.3a) power supply for an MSI MS-16F2 notebook. The only one that I could find that is equivalent was the 240W PSU for Alienware (which I currently have).

I've searched eBay and Amazon.. no luck.. Does anyone know where I can get this PSU?!

Please and thank you!!!

 

There are none, you have to modify one to the right connector.

 

So would it be best to modify an Alienware (Flextronics or Delta) 240W PSU for my MSI?

 

I use Delta 230W PSU (19.5V, 11.8A), also from an Alienware laptop. Just change the tip and You're good to go!

 

Thanks Marecki I'll give it a try!

 

The alienware bricks are popular due to their size, any 19 to 19.5V brick rated for 230-240W works fine though.

 

Thanks for all the comments guys! I modded an Alienware 240W PSU with an end for my 16F2.

Although I'm having issues with frames dropping in games most noticeable in Far Cry 3... Running at 1.075v (UV) at stock clocks.

Link to my performance issue thread

http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/706704-7970m-performance-issues-msi-16f2-notebook.html#post9063923

 

Get the Alienware bricks (simply because they are cheaper)

 

I did Works like a charm other than my CPU throttling...

 

Hi mates! i'm ugrading my gx660r with hd7970m with original heatsink (thx to majster!), i've bought a flextronics pa9e 240w for alienware and need to know (i'm totally stranger with electric things..) the best (and easier!) way to fit this one to my laptop.
Since the psu jack is bigger (7,4mmx5,0mm) do i need to change only this by soldering a 5,5mmx 2,5mm jack or is it better to change the whole cable directy?
Looking at some pictures it seems that dell psu has 3 cables while common psu only 2...am i wrong?
Sorry for my bad english....
PS thanks for your kind answers, if someone can help even with pictures....

 

Autonews! please correct me if i'm wrong, since i'm not very skilled in this kind of questions: hp/dell dc psu use 3 cables insted of 2, with a blue one connected to the center pin, needed to recharge correctly their batteries.
Maybe i need to sold only the positive and the negative to the new 5,5mm x 2,5mm jack, the blue cable is unnecessary, isn'it?

 

Some cases yes, in some cases the design may need some feedback.

If you don't need it to be smaller you can modify an asus 230W and it will only have 2 connectors.

 

Hi Meaker, i've just received a flextronic 240w taken from an alienware, i have no other choices! how to make work it successfully? i can't find any proper cable adapter so i need to mod the jack...any suggestion? i don't mind if the adpter may not recharge the battery since i use my laptop only at home/office, my first purpose is to run without problems the upgraded machine, even with few OC on vga....but i don't wanna burn everything acting in a wrong way...

 

You could just leave it, that's always a choice

Modifying the cable properly will require time, soldering and a multimeter to make sure everything is as it should be.

 

He He, sure, maybe it's a wise choice!

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Did some searching around after finding this thread and found that Toshiba uses the same physical sized Plug that the MSI notebooks use ie: 5.5mm/2.5mm.

Anyway, this 230W Power Brick seems to have a plug which is the same physical size as the MSI Plug:

Toshiba 19V 12.2A Adapter | 230W Toshiba 19V 12.2A AC power adapter: 12.2A*19V

The only issue is, Polarity... are both power adapters the same polarity? it's been a while since I've dealt with this sort of thing, but I recall the polarity used to be important... not totally sure if it still is... but it's definitely worth mentioning.

EDIT: for reference, I don't have mine yet, it's on it's way from NewEgg at the moment, SO... What is the MSI adapter's polarity?

EDIT2: After some more searching, there is a model number of another PSU on the same site, they rate it at 230W, but when searching the model number on ebay and amazon, they're showing up as 180W Power Supplies... http://www.poweradapterlaptop.com/toshiba-laptop-adapter/PA3673U-1AC3.htm#

Something is fishy there...

 

Its this one PA3673E-1AC3 230W 19V from Toshiba but still you have to change plug .
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Netzteil-AC-...ubehör_Notebook_Netzteile&hash=item589b73f71a

 

I'm not sure if this crosses the bounds of forum rules but those authentication logos Drachenlord at the bottom of the page should be clickable links to verification rather than just images.... Just saying.

 

I killed the 240W Delta PSU that I modded about a month ago. It still functions, but I don't think I get more than 120W out of it; simply watching a video causes it to give out.

It used to get pretty hot under load.

 

Correct you don't need to use the blue cable.

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That's interesting, mine does not get THAT hot, only when it's working flat out on a benchmarking session does it show any sign of working hard.

 

I cut off the old jack and inside the very thick cable there's some kind on cotton wires, red cable, black cable and the little blue one!
Now i'm waiting for the correct plug i've ordered online (in my little town it wasn't available!) and then a friend of mine will solder it...the flextronics psu 240w is really huge but slim, very unusual..
I hope to connect the plug in some strong way, since the original cable is so thick that doesn't pass through the hole of the rubber protection (in the new jack, which is smaller).

 

Soldering a new plug onto the end of the cable tends to not be very durable.

 

mmm...i can imagine that, maybe would be better to substitute the whole cable by opening the psu, in all the cases the modded gear is more fragile...

 

If you replace the cable with a sturdy one its just as solid as stock.

 

Hi
Im looking for >180W adapter too and I found the Alienware 240W.
Im not really confident about modding the PSU. Isnt there a simpler solution to make it work with GX660? I mean, isnt there a reduction from 7.4/5.0mm to 5.5/2.5mm or something like that?

 

Not that anyone has found. Mod one or pay someone else to do it.

 

X75 Connector Converter - 7.4 x 5.08mm to 5.5x2.5mm

Found one. Not ideal, I would prefer a right angle converter instead of extension style converter. Also, the wire looks like 15-16awg and not 14awg. Hopefully that won't be a problem with the amount of wattage it will go through repeatedly during gaming. Just ordered along with the dell 240w adapter. I'll see how it goes.

 

The converter came with 18awg wire. It worked just fine, but 18awg is just a little too thin for comfort. At 160W draw (~8A), the cord was warm to the touch. They said they only provide 18awg, and that no 5.5x2.5" plug comes in 14awg. I geuss they never saw the MSI ac adapter. I might just resolder the original MSI ac adapter plug cord to the dell one.

 

That's what I did, the 180W right angle cable (which needs a little added to the internal lead to get it to reach).

 

Hi, what do you think about this cord?
DC Angled 5 5x2 5mm with Cord Cable for Lenovo IdeaPad S9 S9e S10 S10e Adapter | eBay

If I take this one and the dell adapter, it will be ok?

 

It's a very thin cable.

 

Hi,
I found this cable, 18 AWG.
DC 90° Right Angle 5 5x2 5mm with Cord Cable for Toshiba Asus Laptop Adapter | eBay

So this with the dell adaptor could be good, right?

 

i've modded mine changing only the final tip, soldering it of course, since i haven't found any kind of adapter...it worked well for two months but i'ts not a definitive work, sa you warned me some time ago.
Now i'm planning to change the whole cable but every item i founded on ebay looks like the others showed from our friends above...thin, someway.
What could be the problem? the psu amperage? it's rated above 12 ampere, while the cables usually at 9, or something like that...

 

the absolute safest route to take is to buy another 180W for msi and the 240W dell, then merge them together, however I have just purchased the following for testing purposes: New DC Power Plug Tip 5.5 x 2.5mm with cable for Laptop Jack Connector Socket | eBay
and
GENUINE Original DELL 240W AC Adapter Charger PA-9E , Complete with UK Mains Power Cable , 19.5V 12.3A , Brand NEW , Dell P/N : J211H , J938H: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

if all goes well I might as well just swap them with the cable in my original PSU(risky)

 

Incredible! i've found and bought the same cable from the same reseller! It's quite thin indeed, compared to the original msi psu cable....it's half than the original dell one, since this cable includes three wires inside, plus a thin paper like surface.
The dell pae model is very slim (but flatter than any other i've ever seen) and sexy!!! ...but to switch the cable i'll treat it really bad ithink!
By the way, there are no screws to open it, so it's necessary to force the plastic cover and then reclose again with thermal glue or something else.

 

I kinda figured out that they are no screws, but well I think I'll manage with a preheated kitchen knife(is it possible to get it above 150C rated on the arctic silver....) even so I can always get a hammer to do the job

 

yes, that's the way to do the dirty job!

Two firm touches with the hammer and a plate screwdriver in the angles and the coconut is open! lol

 

Previously i've bought this 180w psu, the only good adapter i've found with the right plug:

180W AC Adapter Power for Asus G55VW G55VW DS71 G55VW DS72 G55VW DS73 G55VW RS71 | eBay
It's working great, but i'm trading an i7 920xm and i want to push it as far as the cooling limitations can handle, i want to be sure to have the right power available for that....

 

that was cheap... why not open it up and get the cable into the dell PSU and test, just got the kill-a-watt to make sure its consuming the rated power on the PSU under prime 95 and furmark

 

no, no need to kill the 180 w psu for that, since it's working very well (oc on i7 840qm and 7970m 950/1400), here's the first mod on 240w changing the plug:

View image: IMAG0085

the problem is that, after two months, the contact is bad, i need to adjust and flex the cable sometimes...as Meaker said, this kind of mod is not perfect...

 

my point exactly, thats why I'm suggesting changing the whole cable with proper soldering.... however the problem arises when there are no separate buying option for an 18awg cable with 5.5 x 2.5mm plug, more so there isn't a plug converter out on the market, which is a real shame...

 

I don't know if such a thin cable could create some issues or problems, the best way for me is to try this mod, i'm quite confident not to burn anything even in long stress sessions...i hope so at least!
Of course the cable included in my 180w hp model is bigger than the aftermarket part you posted above, but the amperage is indeeed quite similar, more or less 10 ampere, while for 240w psu should be 12,3A...i suppose some tolerance, really don't think it can't manage 20% difference...

 

Here's my photo comparing the cable we have talked about and the modded delta, as you can notice is relevant:

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/6089/imag0691l.jpg

 

thanks very much, I have a spare power supply cable (the one that connects to the wall plug) and if I'm right..... I should probably strip both wires open and solder the tip onto the wall plug cable and then into the AC adapter (the wall plug wire takes much more than 12.3 A for sure...,.)

 

It seems to be a brilliant idea, the original dell psu wires are quite thick, compared to the wires you can see in the picture, be sure to solder the jack in a perfect way (i'm not so clever but the space in the tip is not so much, so you have to be very precise).
I've used also a thermal rubber protection but maybe my job is not really good...

 

I found this. Easy.

5.5 x 2.5mm Male Barrel Connector with Screw Tighten Wire Connection - CNT-525M

 

worth a try, bought that too

 

oh, i like a lot! so you can use the original cable wires without soldering, it's a very good idea! i'll search for it and try again before changing the whole cable...

 

Please report your impressions here, it seems a good way to mod the dell/flextronics psu without efforts, i think this psu is the ideal deal for hungry single card systems, someone uses the 330w psu from m18x but it seems unnecessary at this point...now i'm waiting for a i7 920xm, my aim is to push it at 2800-3000 on 4 cores...