970 EVO too hot or?

Hello,
I just upgraded my laptop with Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB but I think that drive is running too hot.
After transferring file of 50 GB from one SSD to EVO. I will show a picture of temps. The first temp is good but HW info shows 2 temps and the second one is one that I do not like(78 C max). I have cooler by default (Msi gt 73) and pad under it. Maybe this SSD is not for laptop and needs active cooling?

 

I use several 970 EVO's and Pro's and the Temps are nowhere near 70C.

The 1TB 970 EVO I have in the gaming laptop hits 56-59C max.

Which slot do you have it in?

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Do you have it under a heat shield with a thermal pad on it by any chance?

 

Thank you for your answer! I have in middle M2 slot and on the other m2 slot I have other Toshiba SSD. Should I worried about 78 C? during game or normal win operations is in low 60s or middle 60s but If I start to copy some files or do benchmark go up to 78 C.

 

Yes, I have it exactly like that!

 

Are you looking for that drive 2 temperature? Because drive temperature for mine is also not bigger than 58-59 C

 

Very welcome. I'm a bit of fanatic when it comes to storage, especially SSD's so when I see something related to that I'm naturally drawn toward it.

Hmm iirc in my GT73 I had a toshiba and a Samsung PM951 I think it was and the Samsung ran pretty cool, while the toshiba just burned up...

Maybe try testing without the heat shield then test it with a new thermal pad being careful not to touch the pad with your bare hands... and see if that helps..

 

Then I found the right man for this! Hmm I could try that, but still my Toshiba is very cool under that heat shield. Could SSD be defective? I am new in this m2 SSD world, I do not know is this dangerous temperature or no? Also, I am confused that drive 1 temperature is perfectly fine but drive 2 temperature is not.

 

78C is a bit on the high side, especially for Samsung which is the cream of the crop... Hmmm.. it could be a defective drive? Very rare, but possible.. I've only had one issue with Samsung drives and that was due to it being damaged from the previous owner ...

Try out the different combo's and see if that helps.

 

I read that removing a sticker could improve temperatures? Maybe the problem is transferring heat between sticker and pads?

 

Yes it helps for sure, however it does void the warranty. That doesn't stop people from removing it though, because if anything were to occur the company would have to prove that the removal of the sticker was the sole cause of the failure, which is highly unlikely the case.

 

I see no reason for removing.
After emoving you will have 5-10 C (maybe more) less but as long you stay under 60° there should be no throtteling.
first step should be to find out why the temperature is so high.
easiest thing would be to make some pics and upload them to see how your config is first.

 

I just tested now. Throttle point is 68 C. I can reach it after a cold boot, doing one benchmark and after that transfer some 50 Gb file. After that my SSD idle around 56 C. During gaming and normal win use I have never seen more than 60 C but any benchmark or transferring files make it hot. Here you are my picture of conf. On top of that I have a stock heat shield with a stock pad.

 

This is my idle + max temps after benchmark and transferring files but I did this after a cold boot. Maybe if I repeat now all the could be little more.

 

a pic from your hs where the pad is would be great too!
below a picture from my 970 Evo raid 0 after AS SSD Benchmark and lowest temperature after booting.


the temps are daily? or only after doing benchmarks and transfer several gb from one location to another. i know temps like your only when i move my 500-800gb of games from the raid 0 to my external hdd for backup when i need to reinstall my device.

 

Thank you for sharing your results! Are you using fans during benchmark? If I use turbofan, barely touch 63 C. You drive is also reaching 64 C. Maybe you will get a little hotter like me after transferring some large files. Maybe this drives need fan for better airflow, but that is not possible to put in laptop
I do not have time right now to take apart the laptop again but I will take picture for you as soon as I get some time.

 

no i do the benchmark only with auto fan settings.
the airflow from the both fans in the gt73vr are the same like the gt75vr and are good enough for this.
i have only a U3 Notebook Cooler without fans under my GT75VR.
https://eu.coolermaster.com/de/cooling/notebook-cooling/notepal-u3-plus/

 

sorry, I did not see questions after picture. If I am not doing transfer files or benchmark my temp are lower. if I am doing just windows things,using the internet(Google Chrome), gaming I am around 53C to a 58C. Just during for example copy same file on the disk, a large one (50 GB) or doing benchmark I am getting from 68 C to low 70 C sometimes

 

you don't have an cooler or something else under your GT73vr?

 

yes, I have. NOTEPAL L1 but I am not using fan just like laptop holder

 

Could you do Samsung Magician benchmark for me and post pictures? I got with that
benchmark 75 C

 

i could but therefore i must destroy my Raid 0 so don't be mad with me bro but not at the moment.
find below temps after using firefox/idle and the second one are the temps during playing Max Payne 3 after 20min.

 

Thank you for sharing with me. That really helps! There is no problem, why should I be mad What do you think to put 0.5 mm pads on the drive and to left 1 mm stock ones taped on the heatsink? Maybe I will get better pressure?

 

I use 1mm Arctic thermal Pad for my nvme ssds.

 

I have just 0.5 mm artic pads. Could I put them together and make 1mm ?

 

try it but i would recommend to use 1mm.
there should be no difference but i would use 1mm

 

I replace pads for Arctic pads and have 0 result improvement

 

Thickness of the pads?
1mm? 0.5 is Not thick enough.

 

It is 0.5 X2 It is 1mm, it has a good contact. I checked. Maybe I will try 1.5mm ?

 

1.5 is to thick with 1mm you have an very good pressure.
Fw is up to Date?
If yes contact the Support from Samsung for rma your ssd to get an new oNe.

 

Please look at pages 187-189. Your temps are perfectly in line with the results of at least 3 or 4 others with gt75 and gt73vr.... samsung is not to blame. The problem might be in low air flow. Now that I got myself a pc my 970 evo never ever reaches even 60C even when stress testing.

 

Could be. When I am playing games I have very low temps because of fans spinning. After 1 hour of Doom I have 48 C. In google chrome my drive is from 55C-60C. Where to look that pages? Could you please send me a link?
Thank you!

 

What's your temps in GT75 Titan?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...owners-and-discussions-lounge.806253/page-187

 

Oh damn forgot to paste the link hahahaha.... Thanks @JeanLegi

 

Thanks @JeanLegi I forget to do that also sometimes yes I can see all that users have very high SSD temperatures, some of them are even hotter than mine. What is very interesting I do not have a problem with PCH, never past mid 60 C

 

What about your drives in gt75?

 

Then I would say there is nothing wrong at all. It is a laptop after all and ofc during file transfers or disk benchmarks the fans would normally not kick in... ^^ I think your laptop and ssd are totally fine.

I don't have the gt75 anymore, I switched to a pc. But my post with screenshot are on page 189 of that forums I believe.

 

I just did ATTO benchmark and got most heat ever for my drive. PCH just 62 C. AUTO fans. You still mean that this is an ok temp for laptop Samsung 970 Evo and I do not need to worry about? I am not going to do the benchmark every day. Normal laptop staff gets him 70 C the most.

 

It is a benchmark after all... nvme ssd's are known to run hot and stress testing it will bring it to the max. Tried to run prime 95 on your cpu yet? Most laptops are made in a way that the cpu at stock will reach over 90C or even 100C when being stress tested. Is it good? No. Is it normal? Yes. They are laptops, being pushed to desktop performance. I do not recommend stress testing them repeatedly at all... but yeah your tests seem ok temp-wise, nothing unexpected. On the other hand, your PCH is a champ!

 

I had also a nightmare with CPU uneven temps but I solve that after sanding my HS many times It went me crazy! Now I have perfectly good CPU temps, even in prime 95 I can keep it around 81 C but you always have something with technology, nothing is perfect. Thank you all for help! I am not sure would it help to put some pads under ssds, not just on HS. I need to make again 1mm pad because I have just 0.5 mm pads and I put them together to make 1mm one Maybe I cannot blame Samsung but my Toshiba SSD drive is perfectly cold. I just tested in Atto, 60 C max.

 

I use ATTO looks good for your temps. so we do all we can do and heliada save us before we doing stupid things

 

I would be happy with those I order 1mm pads, maybe my selfmade pads are not good enough

 

You kept good cpu temps to this day?
After 6 months?

 

Yes, 3-4 c difference. My sanding was good last time just we need luck to repaste it perfect. I made it wrong couple of times and just one time make it perfect and stay till today. Do you have any advice for SSD?

 

Sorry no. Mine gets to 80C in my desktop even though it has a heatsink, when i do ATTO benchmark. So no I can't help, sorry.

 

Have some Time this evenning and i‘m bored playing Games...
Quick Check what temperature could be reach when the Stickers are remove.
First Remote the Stickers with this spatel from some paste i owned a long time ago.
After this i used some alcohol pads to clean the chips. I put the stickers on the back of the ssds. Last but Not least i do an atto benchmark and post the result in a few minutes or tomorrow.



Idle Temps after 5min


Temps after ATTO


one ssd is 1C hotter the other one 2C cooler.
as i wrote no benefit of removing it. in idle i have 5C less then before.

 

Thank you for such a good test! I wanted to try that in the end but now I will not for sure I order 1 mm pads and I will try again with pads to lower temperatures at least like yours if not, I will just enjoy with my hot drive. During normal staff It will not throttle, max temp is about 67 C

 

Very strange. The desktop has much more airflow and still you can not cool this crazy hot drives.

 

Problem is just simple, air flow I have better temperatures in games than in idle. Look my temps after 2 hours of gaming almost, drive just need fans.