Dear MSI

All we want for X-mas is a G X-60 3K edition with:

-A CPU that doesn't suck
-An 8970m GPU
-8GB RAM
-MSRP of $1,999 USD.

Sincerely,

-MSI's loyal fans

 

AMD has not delivered on your first point, sorry.

 

This is true.

OP, If you want an i7 with an AMD GPU on a newer MSI laptop, I don't know what forces are at play but there is, most likely, an influence preventing such machine.

 

Likely a partnership with nvidia, MSI have a close relationship with them normally and considering the enduro issues I doubt they want the headaches on their top machines.

If you really want that you could get a 16F2 or GT680 and put a 8970M in it with 2960XM.

 

I don't need AMD GPU in 2000$ laptop.
1600$ (1650 max)- AMD 8970m
2000$ - GTX 780M
Both with 4700MQ + upgrade option = fair for me. 1700$ max for AMD fans.

 

Perhaps later on, when AMD wakes up from the sleep.

 

You'd be dreaming if you think they're going to offer any 3k resolution laptop for less than 2 grand. What I suggest is a reasonable compromise.

P.S.

I wouldn't pay more for Nvidia, no matter how the benchmark reads. AMD isn't that far behind, and Nvidia's utter lack of support for when my GTX 260m failed left a BAD taste in my mouth. I used to be a loyal Nvidia fan, but when you end up paying $800+ out of pocket to get a GPU replaced (and specifically because this laptop was the last of the WUXGA's), you'd probably lose some brand loyalty too.

 

I'd love an 18.4 inch beast with dual graphics cards and a 3k display in that which would be easier to take advantage of.

But MSI neither makes dual cards machines and they don't make 3k 18.4 inch panels anywhere so i'll just keep dreaming.

 

Ummm.... that makes no sense. You can get a MSI 17 inch machine with 8gb of ram a hasewell I7 and a 780m for $1800 out the door.

Why would you want to pay 200 bucks more for a machine with a less powerful GFX card??

 

I hope they wake up soon!

And It would be great to have a dual GPU beast from MSI

 

They are AMD GFX fans

 

It's not gonna happen unfortunately, Intel wants AMD to survive but AMD is still doing so bad.

 

BS. Intel did everything they could fathom to try and kill off AMD. Even after being caught red-handed doing uncompetitive practices, they were content; the damage had already been done. It's no different than what Apple did to HTC.

 

The thing is, considering the performance and TDP of their desktop counterparts, AMD doesn't really have much choice for a competitive gaming CPU on laptops. They would need to castrate their FX line enough to fit a reasonable TDP, and the result will still be underperforming to intel. So the best route for them is to continue making APUs and steer away from it untill they get lower TDP cpus with good performance.

As for GPUs, I really wanted an MSI with high end AMD GPU and Intel CPU. Like my GX660R

 

I dont get it. How about you become a fan of whatever is the best GPU? And right now the best GPU with the best performance and more mature drivers is Nvidia. There is nothing the latest ATI mobility can do that the Nvidia cant do better.

 

They could of here though, make it cheap, 60W and unlocked and go for a value option and it would have made a huge difference.

 

True, even if they can't exactly compete with same TDP, they could shave off the integrated GPU and OCit high enough. Offer some 6 core versions like the FX6350.

I wish AMD would come up with a very competitive CPU. It would be so exciting

 

depends on how you define "best". "performance" is kinda relative these days...what with 1080p being the standard that developers cater to. 3 year old GPU's can handle most of that without problems. On the other hand, multiple-display support has always been an ATI forte, and on top of that--ATI hasn't had a catastrophic design failure resulting in countless chipset failures (at least, nothing to the magnitude that happened with Nvidia).

Additionally, since ATI was bought out by AMD, not supporting AMD is de-facto supporting Nvidia and Intel as monopolies in their respective markets. No thanks. I've been a die-hard AMD loyalist since the K-6 days, and I'm not going to jump ship now. I only started insisting on ATI products when Nvidia's shoddy products bit me in the .

 

Well they are abandoning the non APU type systems, hopefully that means we will see some beefier chips that may make it to mobile.

 

Thanks for your imput.

 

Laptop GPU's are not going to happen soon, they are putting all there COINS in the xbox one and PS4 market.

 

Probably not a terribly bad idea from a business perspective, since the consumers have collectively given the finger to PC FPS's.

 

The pc gaming market continues to grow. I had hoped for a tweaked pitcairn but no so we wait for the 20nm chips.

 

It's a bit difficult for both AMD and Nvidia right now. We have these GPUs already over 100W. There is little they can bring right now for the general consumer. Current high end GPUs have a nice headroom for performance but this is not really attainable by the average consumer.

Worst case, we will be stuck with an 8800m GTX -> 9800m GTX -> 280m GTX with the current 680m/780m.

Can't say I am disappointed though. Considering the stellar performance of 780m.

 

- Name me one 3 year old GPU that can handle BF4 at 1080p with everything on max. None of them can.
- Intel procs are killing AMD to the point of embarrassment.
- Ive had 2 laptops where the ATI GPU died on it where all my nvidia based ones are completely fine
- Ive been running multiple monitor setups for over 10 years now with Nvidia just fine
- Currently my 780 is handinling triple monitors just fine
- No one and I mean no one in the professional GFX industry uses ATI. Fun fact. Every single major triple A studio releasing titles for Xbox one and PS4 (both ATI based) are 100% deving on NVIDIA. Same with every single major motion picture studio. Pixar, Dreamworks, Disney and countless other are all Nvidia based and would NEVER use an ATI solution for pro work. ATI has always been way behind Nvidia in terms of driver stability and features.

I for one, liked having ATI as my gaming laptop solutions for a few years but after they died and I switched back to Nvidia, im never looking back.

 

Are you a dev yourself? Sources for these 'facts' are useful and should always be included..