Does your Fast Boot option in BIOS Stick?

When I enable Fast Boot in the BIOS, save and exit, it goes back to disabled.

I have enabled Secure Boot while installing Windows which is a pre-requistie for Fast Boot but that didn't help

I think the problem lies within the CPU VBIOS maybe..........see that UEFI box is unchecked and the tooltip when you hover the mouse over says......



Shows whether the Video Card module embeds a UEFI module.

this is needed to enable OS Features such as Secure boot and Fast boot. Without it, your BIOS must run CSM to boot with this card

Fast Boot is also enabled in the Power Management

 

Do you have a backup of your vBios it might be the vBios doesn't have GOP (UEFI) on it.
Without a GOP vBios Fastboot will not work or stick when set in the bios it will fall back to CSM after giving an error on boot.

 

Your SSD is initialized as GPT right ?
The GTX 1080 must have a UEFI GOP bios. For the Desktop version, all of them come with the UEFI Bios. May be the MXM card requires a VBIOS update, I'm not sure.

 

I do have a backup of the VBIOS but how would that help?

I did install Windows in UEFI mode / Super RAID 4 and the SSDs are all initialized as GPT

 

You'd be able to send it to SVET over at msi's forum to see if it does have GOP in the vbios or if not see if he could get it added.

 

I posted this here but I can't PM him:

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=281822.msg1598105#msg1598105

 

Just edit the thread and ask him to PM you. It might be his inbox is full with all the requests he gets.

Just seen the thread he will probably see it and reply it takes time for him to reply due to demand.

 

I was just able to PM Svet, let's see

 

Goodluck. PS his services are donationware btw. just incase you didn't see anything about it.

 

yeah I know bro

 

Message from Svet:

 

Just sent a support ticket to MSI about this

 

Ok bud, it was worth the shot all the same though.

 

Ok so here is the response from MSI about Fast Boot option not sticking, seems it's because I have an HK CPU.

@Prema @hmscott @Mr. Fox @ryzeki @iunlock @infex

 

Sweet!! That totally makes sense!

Intel 'K' overclocking requires full device initialization in BIOS vs. Fastboot minimal device initialization, which pushes device initialization to the OS.

 

Hmm, that's interesting. Good to know. I don't use Fast Boot and I don't ever plan to, but I know @Phoenix and others have asked why this setting does not work. I bet @Prema has been asked that question enough times that he would be rich if he got a penny every time someone asked.

 

The reason I tagged j00 and Prema is, I always used to nag him and say, why doesn't the option stick when I enable it in the Prema BIOS? Now we know why, it's because we had K (overclockable and fully unlocked) CPUs

We just solved the riddle of the century

 

It's rare to get a straight answer on something like this. Most people that should know don't know, and those that do seem to like to keep everything a mystery. You must have just gotten lucky with the right person at MSI that either knew where to get the straight skinny, or let it slip out by accident. I'm sure @Prema will be glad to know this is why.

I suspect the feature probably works on socketed mobile CPUs of days gone by and it probably stopped working on systems that needed to move over to desktop K CPUs in order to stay awesome.

 

When I first contacted MSI, just as a normal user, that was the answer I got but it was very vague...... didn't make sense to me and I didn't believe it at first....

Initial reply:

"Fast Boot will not stick if you have overclocking enabled"

I then told the guy even if I reset BIOS to defaults, it won't stick so it's not about overclocking.

then he said I had an overclockable CPU that's why

I didn't buy into it. The response wasn't as detailed and I refused to believe.

Then Mr. Donald forwarded my concern to his MSI contacts, the most senior engineers and at first, the senior tech asked me a few questions, then was able to replicate the issue on a similar laptop like mine, that's when he forwarded it to the MSI HQ Engineers. Then got back to me within 48 hours with that detailed response....


ohh...the benefits from buying from a reputable reseller, they have your back and help you get proper answers from the right channels.

If you remember, this issue was there on the Clevo P870DM and P870DM3, now it all makes sense. BIOS cannot have Fast Boot and start booting instantly to Windows at it needs to initialize all the settings/OC parameters where you were overclocked or not.

I bet Prema would be happy to know this if anyone else nags him about this

 

+ Reps coming when the system allows!! Great detective work.

 

Sounds like ******** to me. On my Clevo P870KM, the FastBoot is enabled and works as expected and it sticks. It runs on an i7 7700K.

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well I can't use that as an argument, they will say it's a different laptop and different BIOS maker altogether. If I can argue with them, I would have to show them an MSI system with an HK CPU that has the Fast Boot enabled

Plus, how do you have the Fast Boot enabled in your P870KM1? does the stock BIOS even have Fast Boot? I didn't think it did

Quote from MSI's reply:

 

Yes the stock bios has Fast Boot option now
Btw, I checked in GPU-Z. The UEFI option is not checked and Fast Boot still works. So that's also not the case as we thought, at least not on the Clevo it seems.

You are right, will be hard to argue with MSI with the behavior of another laptop.

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wut happend with this, i remenber first time i install new OS works fine with fast boot, but now, my RAID just fail and i cant put fast boot again, just disable all the time.

 

Fast Boot doesn't work with K overclockable / unlocked CPUs, read post 22 again

 

Well im just saying, dont ask me why, or how, but first time was ok, must be a way, also i noticed something, perhaps you can helpme, after my raid die, i noticed the MSI bios logo, looks a little ugly, As if the image had been damaged, or as if it were something blurry, it is not 100% sharp as before, is there a way to replace the image or fix it?

 

Make sure you are in pure UEFI not UEFI with CSM enabled

 

its UEFI and Legacy (should i change to Legacy to UEFI?) is there a guide to check a propper win10 pro installation? men i told you, fast boot works, trustme i had GT73VR 6RF with 2 NVME 128GB was on raid and was working.

 

UEFI with legacy causes the image to be distorted. You must install Windows in pure UEFI mode and set the BIOS like that

Teach me how you make Fast Boot work

 

i will ask my friend how he did, cuz he was the one who config my laptop, thx man for the info.

 

Once you set boot mode to UEFI mode, you can boot from the OS installation media (Win8.x and above) and install UEFI-version of OS.