ES or QS CPUS???

Ok, So I understand that the ES or QS CPUs are testing models, but the sellers are all claiming that they are identical to the retail versions. Would these work in my MS-1727 ok?

 

yes, but get the best price you can from them, cause they shouldn't be selling them close to OEM prices.

 

I was just speaking to the genlteman from Frosty Computers and this is what he said:

"ES or QS MAY work, but are not recommended since they are usually faulty or abused cpus that have gone under extreme testing. From my personal experience building these machines I have seen machines just not work or work but have issues due to QS or ES cpus put inside them. I would not put an ES or QS cpu in any barebones period. Its a BIG gamble. OEM or retail box is the way to go."

Based on that, I've ordered a 620m OEM from ShirleyFu

 

I've never seen anyone have a problem with an ES CPU. I highly doubt the people at Frosty have either.

"Usually faulty or abused..." That is pure fear mongering, and so far from the truth, it's sick.

 

Agh...the price difference between a n OEM 640m and a QS 920xm is only $130...

 

ES/QS CPUs are basically stolen goods.

 

Wouldn't this be akin to re-selling a promo cd?

 

As said in my link above, ES/QS CPUs are, by contractual agreement, the property of Intel. As such, they can't belong to whoever is trying to sell them to you.

 

They are the same thing, but cheaper, and you wont get warranty coverage for a ES CPU. Some early ES's, though, do not have temperature sensors, which is why you should be careful when purchasing ES CPU's.

 

They worked awesome in both of my barebones..

820qm, 920xm.

Ran cooler than the OEMs, too.

 

How was you battery life with the 820qm and the 920xm?

 

around 3 hours. Awesome for a 17" power machine.

 

Holy crap,was that onn MS-1727 Chassis?

 

Yes.

I believe it was, as I used both the GTS250m model and the 5870 model.

 

I was going to get a 920XM as well, but I ended up getting my ram and OEM cpu very cheap and couldn't say no.

But I would so the QS option if the price was right, only.

 

I have heard some suggest that the Es may be missing certain functions.

Edit: Don't forget about resale value (legality) regarding which CPU you chose.

 

I think it depends on the ES, and if the seller is being truthfull or not. I see ShirleyFu posting around here, so I think he's ok.

 

QS only, that is the Golden Rule. All QS are 100% reliable CPUs.

The other ES aren't guaranteed to have the temp sensors.

 

Yes,

QS Only.

I only used QS, not ES.

I don't know if I can post the ebay id here,

but it was extremeprocessor? extremeprocessors?

It was either one of the two, and they worked flawlessly.

 

I've gotten 2 QS QUAD's(9200QM and QX9300) from MR. Fu, not i7's but the older tech and have run them pretty hard from time to time and both work great.
If I were building a barebones laptop for myself I would never buy a OEM CPU but that's just me and I figure if there for sale on eBay it can't be that bad.

 

Actually software is a bit different. I am not a lawyer but I had purchased several copies of Office 2003 a few years back that all turned out to be promo copies. I returned them because they were marketed as OEM copies, not promo. The retailer tried to persuade me to keep them and sent me this link detailing the law.

United States Code: Title 17,109. Limitations on exclusive rights: Effect of transfer of particular copy or phonorecord | LII / Legal Information Institute


Apparently reselling promo copies is not illegal but still shady in my opinion. Now if the price difference is significant enough, then I would have to think about it. The same goes for ES CPUs. If the price difference over other used CPUs is big enough, I'd probably take the risk.

 

No not really, seeing the amount of ES available, I doubt the theft.
Especially regarding ones like Qx9200 and many which are manafactured but never released as retail or OEM.