Eurocom Tornado F5/Eurocom Tornado F7 with 6-core Coffee lake cpus?

i'm reading this post
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...16l-g-1080-15-6-owners-lounge.797128/page-150

are you working also for a tornado f5 with 6-core coffee lake cpu?

https://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-desktop-6-core-4-core-cpu-leaked/

" Are Intel Coffee Lake Processors Compatible With LGA 1151 Socket and 200-Series PCH?
This also brings us to the next interesting detail we are getting from this listing. The specific 6 core Coffee Lake part was tested on the Kaby Lake-S client system. Kaby Lake-S platform means that the chip was ran off a 200-series PCH based motherboard. If true, Coffee Lake would retain compatibility not only with the LGA 1151 socket but also currently available motherboards."

i'm reading about coffee lake and intel could release coffee lake in August.

 

So it's real... F7... NICE.

::iunlock::

 

Coffee Lake is coming more like Q1/18 not August. And YES we will create new motherboard to support them.

 

thanks for your answer

i just read this article, i don't know
http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-desktop-6-core-4-core-cpu-leaked/
"Intel Coffee Lake chips were previously going to launch in January 2018 (CES). But recent AMD launches have pushed Intel to shake up their launch roadmap. The recent reports have suggested that Coffee Lake chips can launch as early as August, at GamesCom 2017. The new Coffee Lake chips will launch alongside the Z370 chipset based motherboards and would be followed by the H370 and B360/H310 chipsets at the end of 2017 or early 2018."

 

http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-delayed-2018-8th-gen-kaby-lake-refresh

Intel Coffee Lake CPUs Delayed to 2018, 8th Gen Gets Kaby Lake Refresh This Year

 

A coffee lake f7 sounds very intersting and will posibly be my next notebook!

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/234097/...ore-mainstream-desktop-processor-by-september

Intel Rushes in a Six-core Mainstream Desktop Processor by September

With AMD Ryzen 5 six-core and Ryzen 7 eight-core chips having blunt the edge of the $329 Core i7-7700K, the upper-end of Intel's mainstream desktop processor line-up has lost competitiveness to Intel's bean-counters. The company is readying a new mainstream-desktop platform, which in all likelihood, heralds a new socket, and the new Z370 Express chipset.

Intel plans to launch this platform by August-September (before Q4 sets in), and it has one big difference - a new six-core part, based on the 8th generation Core "Coffee Lake" silicon. Built on a refined 14 nm process, the 6-core "Coffee Lake" chip could feature its TDP rating around the 95W mark for the "K" (multiplier unlocked) part. Quad-core parts could also be carved out of this silicon, with their TDP rated at 65W for the non-K (multiplier-locked) parts. AMD Ryzen 7 1700 eight-core chip with unlocked multipler is rated at 65W. Intel will follow up on its first-wave of "Coffee Lake" chips with additional quad-core and dual-core parts in Q1-2018, besides other 300-series chipsets (likely the H370 and B350).

 

I hope that this model will be out soon as I am looking for one, either F5 or a 17 incher Gaming laptop like "F7".

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Coffee-Lake-hexa-core-desktop-chip-specs-leaked.237024.0.html
Coffee Lake hexa-core desktop chip specs leaked

 

We are planning to update Tornado F5 to Z390 chipset supporting 8C/16T CPUs coming in H2/18. We will launch F7 at the same time too. We will skip z370 chipset. Meantime we added support for Quadro P5000 and P3000.

 

Sounds great! It would even better if dGPU could be made optional. Some of us are not gamers or benchmarkers but need lots of CPU processing power and at the same time have no or limited use of a powerful dGPU.

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So you would MUX kind of switch right?

 

Same for me, yes please, so if in the case the gpu fail, we can continue to use the laptop (beside choosen cpus) until issues are resolved, right?

 

So may be a new bios for making compatible z170 motherboards and 6-cores coffee lake 1 cpus? Or something with ryzen for the moment?

 

This is important news. @Papusan @Mr. Fox I'm tagging you guys, please tag others who will benefit from this info.

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well look at that eurocom said z390 will have 8c/16t? CNL intel will have that many cores eh?

 

This (MUX) is the only way it would be acceptable. The Micro$lop equivalent to Optimus would absolutely SUCK. It needs to be one or the other iGFX or dGPU, reboot required to switch and the other disabled, but not hybrid garbage alone. Hybrid switchable graphics is still possible as a third option (like Alienware M18x 'SG Mode' - which is nice for fixing bricked GPUs) but the most important thing is for the iGFX to be able to be completely eliminated for the majority that want that. Otherwise, please keep the iGFX trash disabled. It also needs to have a control option in the BIOS that is accessible to everyone with stock BIOS or modded BIOS.

Having the ability to continue using the product without any GPU in an MXM slot, if necessary, is an excellent benefit.

 

does that mean eurocom will only skip z370 in F5 and F7? or skip z370 all in general including clevo's line up?

 

thats some awesome stuff, probably by far the best news ive heard in years for LGA laptop. good thing we got both clevo and MSI model.\first the MUX, then confirmed CNL to have minimum 8 cores this would bring laptop a tad closer to desktop and actually worth buying it.

now the only concern left is that intel mentioned there will be NO desktop CNL, so 2nd gen 10nm should be tiger lake which comes in 2019 so im not exactly sure how this will work. also if there is somehow 10nm CNL that will come to desktop platform my worry is that silicon will not have time to optimize. take broadwell first gen 14nm for example, max OC is like 4.3ghz.. very low

 

After the DM-G 1080 upgrade mod is finished, it is unlikely I will spend any more effort or money on high performance laptops going forward. It's too frivolous and the dishonest companies that manufacture them intentionally gimp them way too much. I'm getting sick of every new laptop we see hit the market being a malfunctioning and crippled piece of trash without extensive firmware mods, and the half-assed cooling systems and BGA filth that the vast majority of them get just adds insult to injury. I'll probably focus on desktop and keeping mobile computing as inexpensive and mundane as humanly possible. I'd rather own a $150 Chromebook than have an expensive disposable turdbook or a beast with its nuts cut off by cancer firmware and sloppy cooling.

 

did you use a gtx1080 in your p870dm-g?

 

I am getting things in order to do that. I need a few more pieces.

The original plan was to use the 980M from the DM-G in the Tornado F5 and the MSI 1080 in the DM-G. I may still do that GPU mod as well. But, @tanzmeister has a Clevo 1080 on its way to me and I will focus more effort on that first. The Clevo 1080 GPUs are more affordable (and more robust) than the MSI 1080 cards. Either upgrade would be awesome, but the Clevo 1080 would be more awesome. I need a single 1080 Clevo DM2/KM1 T-style heat sink so I can remove the heat plate and resolder it to the DM-G 980 T-style heat sink that I already have.

I am hoping that @Eurocom Support and @Ted@HIDevolution and @Donald@HIDevolution will be able to source a vendor for heat sinks that match the prototype from my project so that Clevo 1080 upgrades for the DM-G can become a totally common bolt-in upgrade for everyone that owns a DM-G.

The power cables are different, but easily addressed. If you look at the Clevo service manual schematics, the DM-G 980 power cable has two ground wires and two power wires. The DM3/KM1 has four of each. The power and ground sources are the same, so they are redundant wires. Technically, one power and one ground would be enough. The extra wires are for more amps, like using a larger diameter garden hose for more water volume.

 

wow! that seems an amazing plan

 

I hope so. I love doing weird projects like this. Especially so if they help others upgrade and save money instead of buying a new machine just to get an upgrade as minor as a better GPU. Nobody should ever need to buy a new laptop to get a newer GPU. That is extremely stupid and it is one of the things that is making me start to hate laptops in a general sense. A desktop replacement should be a desktop replacement in every sense of the term, including easy drop-in GPU upgrades.

Even if I do not use the MSI 1080 in the DM-G, I may go ahead and move the 980M to the Tornado F5. Brother @Jon Webb sent me a heat sink for that and I think it would be powerful enough with a 980M GPU. I have been comparing gaming on the single 980M in the DM-G with the single 1080 in the Tornado F5 and there is not enough of a difference in performance to matter for most games. The 980M has no trouble with max settings and holding 75-100 FPS at 1080p in most games. The additional 25-50 FPS above that you get with 1080 doesn't really do much to improve the gaming experience in general, but the 980M runs cooler. For a small machine designed for portable high quality gaming, the 980M still seems like enough GPU to me.

For overclocked benching or 4K gaming, 1080 totally rapes 980M, but people that are mostly focused on playing games have no reason to care about that. Since most games today are little more than crappy console ports that are designed to run fine on anemic hardware, higher benchmark scores and 4K gaming don't do very much to improve the experience.

 

yes i'd agree. but well that would depend on how good the laptop is made. F5 has a flaw only to me as it is only 15" and a shared heatsink, other than that its pretty good.

i would love to see how F7 and new clevo is designed and hopefully not castrated in anyway, pure performance power house.

 

You are right! and Clevo should understand that gpus upgradability is a grat feature and they could have more and more customers if they will follow a sort of upgradability path

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Gpu upgradability path (at least 2 series) should be a must for gaming laptops with a price of 2000 or more dollars IMO

 

hey man! the T-heatsink is already on the way to you together with 1080. you are free to do what ever you want with it!

 

The F5 (MSI 16L13) does not have a shared heatsink

 

I must say that 1080 totally beats 980m in latest games, with more than double performance, unless the CPU gets in the way!

 

my bad, i mean shared as in, share heat, cpu go gpu and vice versa.

 

Yes, it does. You are 100% correct. All I was saying is that 980M can still produce a really solid gaming experience (over 60 FPS) with almost all current games running at 1080p even with max settings.

I am getting excited about the DM-G 1080 project. I can hardly wait to see that bad boy rocking a 1080.

Oh wow. That is totally awesome. Now I am even more excited, LOL. WOOT!

 

news travels fast me friend

http://wccftech.com/intel-10nm-ice-lake-8-core-16-thread-mainstream-cpu-leak/

 

Yes wccftech and notebookcheck follow this forum

 

Why not a MUX that doesn't require a reboot to change the active GPU? https://01.org/linuxgraphics/gfx-docs/drm/gpu/vga-switcheroo.html

 

Also: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Euroc...siast-consumer-CPU-by-late-2018.249216.0.html

 

so intel milked 4 cores for almost a decade, then jump to mainstream 6 cores then onto mainstream 8 cores all under 2 years. thank you AMD.

 

Intel would step up with 6 cores for mainstream next year, also without AMD. But 6 cores would be max and further milking for the next decade without the push from AMD

 

Eurocom says Intel will have an 8C/12T 'enthusiast' consumer CPU by late 2018
Late next year? I thought it was 2H18...

 

Guru3d.com Who can give an exact date Intel will push it out? Eurocom? I'm sure not even Intel know!!

 

When it says 2H, it usually means Nov or Dec. Late 2018 is pretty safe assumption.

 

Will Z370 also support these alleged 8C/16T Ice Lake CPUs as well?
I'm assuming they should, if not its one less reason to get what is virtually a Z270 rebrand piggybacking on sales of 6 Core Coffee lake chips which Z270 wont support (despite the similar socket).


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Everything being bandied about is a rumor right now, and all from our own @Eurocom Support member

Mystery solved: Z390 Chipset Will Support Intel 8-Core Processors
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/my...set-will-support-intel-8-core-processors.html

"Recently we posted a slide demonstrating the Z370 Platform transition chipset for Coffee Lake. Interestingly enough that slide revealed a Z390 chipset which was listed on there. As it turns out, Intel is to release yet another chipset this year, to support 8-core processors.

That fact is also indicative that the Z370 chipset isn't enough, and not capable of supporting the unannounced 8-core part. It's messy with Intel chipsets alright. The news was spotted at the NotebookReview who posted a bit from eurocom stating the obvious. The Eurocom employee claims that Z390 is supported by eight core and sixteen threads processors and would be released in the second half of 2018"

So according to this the z370 is a lame duck out of the gate, with only the 6 core Coffee Lake #1 series of CPU's supported - no 7xxx CPU's either, just the 87xx CPU(s?).

The z390 info from Intel says "real high performance" 6c Coffee Lake #2 release, no 8c / 16t mentioned, so IDK what to think.

Before this it was said the Ice Lake 9th generation would have a new socket and therefore a new 10nm motherboard chipset, so, who knows?

 

dont need to spectulate so much. intel has changed so many of their traditional routine for last 7-10yrs its messing everything up, this include both chipset and socket.

just to show they do have the capability if they really wanted to do anything, but chooses not to and m!lk the consumer.

 

http://wccftech.com/intel-delays-10nm-cannon-lake-cpus-end-2018/

so either 8core consumer is delayed, or it will be on 14nm++

 

nope, no longer delayed.

https://twitter.com/IanCutress/stat...io/iframe/twitter.min.html#910583388704329728

looks like the 10nm delay was incorrect so 8core mainstream from intel 10nm+ still slated for 2H2018, or so to speak end of 2018.

 

Actually if you read it, he's just reiterating the last statement by Intel made before the delayed production leak.

So we really still don't know for sure if it's coming soon or much later.

 

It looks like some believes Intel will be screwed by AMD, once again. Oh’well. One mistake doesn’t mean you will do it again and again. Some will always learn of their mistake/blunders.

 

november new laptop right? CFL 6 cores right?
CAN"T WAIT YO

 

So will these boards that support CFL1 support CFL2 or will Z390 boards be completely different?