Excellent performance on Ge75, 2080 and 9880H - 8 cpu

Hi,

Just got my first MSI after my 51M burned. The 51m feels like a toy compared to the GE75 I got instead with the 9880H and the 2080 RTX. I mainly use it for CPU intensive work. The results are fantastic. I got it from Gentech repasted.

Undervolt is at -120. Even without temperatures are great.

At full capacity multithread on all cores temperatures are 77-81, and the max 3.98GHZ (the model is locked at that when full core and multithread is active). However - for some reason it has plenty of room to do other things when at full load. I utilize all CPU as I am writing this, exporting an app.

When doing VR/gaming it is around 4.4-4.5 at 58-71 celcius.

Excellent cpu I must say, for a laptop.

Have not done any official benchmarks. I only undervolted and started exporting which is 4hr completely full load on CPU and it seems like it has room to use beyond the 3.98ghz - which is nice as it removes stutter.

So far very happy about this.

Curious to hear of other peoples experience. I think for gaming/single use core you can push it even higher. But since I use it for work I do not overclock or anything. Stability is key for this laptop used for work.

 

Sounds nice. I wish I would have waited a few weeks to get mine, but then again mine was only $2200 vs $3000.

What are you seeing for Firestrike and Timespy results?

 

I just finished repasting (LM and new pads) the GS75 Stealth (9880H/2080MQ) and it's pretty impressive... Once I get back to the office I'll post up a firestrike run. I'm curious how it'll compare to your unit.

Is your laptop LM'ed or repasted with regular paste?

 

@jks87

Here's a fun run so far...

 

I just downloaded the benchmark software fro Steam but need to pay for fire strike. Might get it for fun. I never use it otherwise. But this is quite fun this time!

FYI the first time I tested it I was not using coolerbooster, and therefore just at 65% cooler. Definetely room to OC stuff on this.

I had it repasted at Gentech.

However, my laptop was also 3700, so on the expensive end but needed reliable alternative to 51m. And I am happy with this so far.

Timespy I just ran and score was 10000

Is there a difference on running it on a 4K monitor vs native 1080p? If so, then I want to run it on 4K since that is what I use it for and VR.

I also just realized I am using an outdated GPU driver. Might try timespain again with udpated one. My CPU does not go much above 70 celcius.

 

Idle with full fan speed is 35-39 celcius. wow

 

Should I download regular firestrike or ultra?

 

I just ran it. Graphic score no overclocking is 26045 so OK and as expected. Total score is 21199. Will try a slight OC on GPU

 

That's impressive. I need to update my 3dmark and test, because my last Graphics Score was 20k and yours is 22k for the same GPU. Are you using stock vbios or 90w version?

 

Regular Firestrike.

Excellent! Can you post a screen shot?

90W.

 

Thanks for posting! What are the Cinebench r15/r20 scores? I'm curious how the 14nm size is doing with 8 cores in a relatively small package.

 

You mean "stock" not "full" right?

 

He means that idle speeds, when using 100% fans, are very low.

 

Quite a misunderstanding, hahaha sorry...
Speeds or temperatures?

So once again slowly ;D
The i9-9880h which he has, stays in the temperature range 35°-39°, while idle with the fans @ full speed? If this was the point, then sorry but it's not very cool and cold.
What is the stock temperature, and rpms of the cpu fan in idle then?

 

Can I know which 90W vbios you flashed? I also got a GS75 2080MQ and 9880H. I flashed a razer one and clock speed did not change and not able to turbo.

sorry to hijack a GE75 thread.

 

I was going to DM you but figured I'd just reply here. To clarify, I'm using the stock drivers and bios. The version can be found here.

 

Can you run firestrike / timespy again with the laptop unplugged from ac adapter please?

 

I'm on the same stock EC firmware as well and got 20k in firestrike graphics. And I am running on turbo mode with a 100mhz overclock.

hmmmm.

 

In theory the new GS75 already had 90w vbios, so you need to revert back to your stock vbios and test again. I am using the razer 90w one and I have the same score as you (20k). Did you test or saw the clocks of your stock vbios before you flashed?

 

The 9th gen GS75 does have a 90W vbios, good news for cross-flashing, a MSI 90W vbios.

 

I want this vbios, and I can't seem to get it!

 

@Gr4dy do you mind providing one?

 

Just PM'd it to him!

 

On another note, I also have a GenTech built GS75 with LM applied. It's got a 2080 (max-q) and an i7-9750H. My Timespy/Firestrike scores aren't anywhere near yours @iunlock .

 

@iunlock , do you have your 2080 OC'd? I noticed your screenshots say the score isn't valid. Did you run the tests with their default settings?

 

Well I seem to have no difference in performance using MSI's 90w and razer's 90w. At least I have full system compatibility (for the case of DP output) but I am also intrigued by iunlock's scores...

I had to overclock mine by 100mhz to get 20.5k. which was a minor upgrade from stock 90w's 20k.

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19465890/fs/19546022

I compared my previous razer's vbios score with MSI's 90w and they are basically identical (the razer score was overclocked slightly more)

I don't think I am thermally limited as my GPU max temp was 73, so I do think power limits are obviously holding me back.

 

See if you can OC to +130, may have the same score as the Razer vbios.

The base MHz for each tick of voltage value is probably different in the Razer's when compared to the MSI's.

What is the max offset you can go for on your RTX2080 Max-Q?

Edit:

As the TDP is closely limited by the VBIOS, going all out on the core offset shouldn't add much of a rise in the Temperature, so you can basically go for max offset for best energy efficiency and the temp should stay identical.

Going all out on the memory is a different story though.

 

I will try later today. I did notice I crashed when I tried +150mhz core, so maybe 130mhz might be the limit. I am not worried about temps, just wondering how iunlock an others managed even higher performance.

 

Also very curious about this, too.

 

same as all here, GS75 9SG 9880H stock vbios in turbo mode with 100mhz overclock gets m e about 20.5k firestrike graphics score.

I think we have taken up too much of a GE75's thread tho. my fault too.

I'm satisfied anyways.

 

Cool, bumping up the core clock means having the frequency to run at a higher level for each voltage, for example:

Before OC'ing the Core clock, let's say at 0.743V, you maybe running at 1455MHz, after you have added +150MHz to the core clock, you maybe running at 1605MHz @ 0.743V, usually the temperature and the power is largely affected by the voltage, not the frequency, which means you'll have a better energy efficiency when you bump up the core clock and the temperature wouldn't increase much. But if you have gone too far, the voltage isn't sufficient enough to run the core at that frequency, the driver will reset itself and you need to re-tweak again, then you know where is the limit for your GPU at that voltage. The ultimate goal here is the find the most energy efficient frequency you can get for the common voltage you'll come across in your everyday gaming session.

This also means more output even the TDP limit of the GPU is met.

Edit:

About the memory clock, by bumping up a few hundreds, you might see the temperature increase by 1~4 degrees, it depends on how far you go, if the temperature is controlled under 80 I'd just go all out.

If you find out you are getting runtime errors reported when playing a game, that means you have gone too far increasing the memory clock, usually runtime error comes before broken texture for the memory clock, so it's easy to know.

 

It seems the 9880H provides a huge leap in score beyond the 9750H. Even with my 2080 OC'd, I can't even come close to a 20k Firestrike score.

 

How have the thermals been since you bought this? Are you seeing decent temps since then? Are you still happy with the product?

 

What machine do you have? Even a bone stock 8750H with 2080 scores above 20K fire strike.

 

That can't be true. My laptop specs are in my signature.

 

OK, sorry you didn't say maxq 2080 so I assumed it was a full one. I was on mobile so signatures don't show up but I see it now on my pc.

 

Ah, yeah, sorry. This thread kind of got sidetracked on discussing GS75s and they only come with a Max-Q at their highest GPU.

 

Hey there. Thanks for posting these numbers. Did you ever run with an OC and if so what were the numbers and temps? Very much thinking about this config for my next purchase!

 

My alienware area 51m got burned as well, now like u, im thinking on getting the ge75 raider with 2080, though the alienware 51m had a 2080 desktop class gpu inside. How much in performance do u think i will lose if i go with the ge75 raider?

 

The 2080 in the GE75 is also a full powered GPU. In theory they should be about the same, even with overclocking. The GPU cooling in the GE75 is great although likely behind the larger Alienware. Power is one thing I don' know about, only if the GPU has a much higher power limit would it have more GPU capability.

Now CPU wise, it would be a hit going form a high end desktop CPU to the BGA cpu for sure. Guessing off the top of my head maybe 20% less stock vs stock. Overclocking the desktop CPU would only make that a wider range. In my opinion, veyr few games are CPU bound, none of the games I play are so I can't speak about FPS differences.

 

While they laptop CPU and the 2080 in the GE are not the full power versions (like a desktop intel CPU and a 200W GPU) they are still plenty powerful and you shouldn't loose much performance when running stock or slight OC.

The Alienware has simply more potential headroom to run higher clocks/performance due to higher TDP, but that doesn't mean the GE is a weak machine in comparison.

 

Hello all,

I watch this thread because I was thinking as well about MSI GE75 or the GE76
I had Alienware area 51M and I was love how the machine look , but the machine burn out with no reason ( yes there is a reason called VRam at Mobo I know it )
So I was thinking to get something good, now I have I9 9980HK and full fat 2080 , I just reply for you post , because you was ask a question how much down you will be , don’t know about you CPU but if the GPU in this one ( GE75 is full fat ) you will be not down but plus up
Why ? Because the Alienware RXT2080 burn out at 200Wso the Alienware have now new V. bios and Bios , what change the W limits from 200 to 180 ( or option to 190 ) , so that is already 10 percent down as well they change the thermal limit on the GPU as well , so in real world scenario the Alienware Area 51M don’t have any more full fat GPU just a better Max Q GPU or better to said something between Max Q and Full Fat
Hope this help

Regards
Scorpik