Gt73vr, does it really have g sync?

Im planning to buy a laptop and what I'm looking for is a gtx 1080, 17 inch full hd (i like more fps than 3k or 4k), 120hz with g sync. Everything falls into place with the msi gt73vr.


however it confuses me when I check the specs on their official website and some other sites, it doesn't mention g sync unlike with the gt62vr etc. So i emailed xoticpc and asked.

Here's what he says

"Sorry for the confusion. I have gotten confirmation from MSI there is no Gsync. The 120hz screen is similar to having gsync but it is not gsync"

For those who own gt73vr,can you please confirm this, because he said that there's a g sync option in the control panel but in reality it doesn't really work.

It makes sense because msi and other websites didn't mention it in the specs wherein it is a high selling point.

 

Yes the GT73VR has G-Sync.

The screen is gsync certified.

 

That's good to hear, did you experienced it personally i mean is there really no screen tearing?

 

The 120Hz will definitely eliminate/reduce screen tearing, especially if you're producing a lot of fps. You probably wont notice it even if it was there unless you're really producing insane amounts and the game engine allows it. On a 60Hz screen its definitely noticeable but on 120Hz you'd have to look real close to see it or have crazy frames.

Gsync helps by keeping the monitor refresh rate synced with the frame rate.. which "eliminates/reduces tearing". But you'll only see the benefits when the frame rate is lower than the max refresh rate as the purpose is to match it if you're not producing that much frames.

If you're producing a ton of fps you can also look up Fast Sync which was introduced with Pascal and works on Maxwell as well.

 

There is a bunch of factors here.

What country are you in?

GSync is different on the laptops vs desktops. Desktops have chips in the monitors that work really well. The laptops do it software based just like AMD Freesync. So maybe that's what he meant? It's a different implementation of GSync, which is slightly worse than the desktop version.

GSync also doesn't work at or over your refresh rate. So at 120fps it turns off and either enables tearing again or enables VSync which adds input lag. Both desktop and laptop do this. It is recommended to cap your fps just below (i.e. 117 fps) to keep GSync on and still be at a high fps.

@Tanner@XoticPC wanna chime in here? Or @pat@XOTICPC ? Is there really no GSync on the GT73 even though it is listed as having it?

 

The GT73VR does have G-Sync. A friend of mine purchased it from XoticPC back in November. Even though the product description didnt say that. When he received the product and turned it on. It was G-Sync enabled.

I think they don't officially advertise it because of something to do with the G-Sync panel certification from Nvidia. This has been the case since August 2016. Don't know what is taking them so long.

 

I ordered this laptop on amazon last month. The xotic reps there said it didn't have g sync, and msi's page didn't list it as a feature, but it definitely has it, you just have to make sure to enable it in the nvidia control panel.

 

Not that I don't believe you but are you sure it's working?

This part of what OP said, "For those who own gt73vr,can you please confirm this, because he said that there's a g sync option in the control panel but in reality it doesn't really work. "

Is most unusual. And it could be hard to know since such a high performing laptop with such a high fps display may make GSync not overly noticeable.

 

For your reference, spec varies based on the model that you are interested with.

MSI GT73VR Titan Pro 4K-200 4K UHD nVidia GTX 1080 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5X
17.3" 3840 X 2160 4K PLS @60Hz LED Anti-Glare, G-Sync

MSI GT73VR TITAN 4K SLI-060 4K UHD nVidia SLI Dual GTX 1070 Desktop GPU 16GB GDDR5
17.3" 3840 X 2160 4K PLS @60Hz LED Anti-Glare, G-Sync

MSI GT73VR Titan SLI 4K 423 nVidia SLI GTX 1070 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5, 7th Gen Intel i7-7820HK
17.3" 3840 X 2160 4K PLS @60Hz LED Anti-Glare, G-Sync

MSI GT73VR Titan Pro-201 nVidia GTX 1080 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5X
17.3" 1920x1080 TN @120Hz 5ms, 94% NTSC, G-Sync

MSI GT73VR Titan SLI 058 nVidia SLI Dual GTX 1070 Desktop GPU 16GB GDDR5
17.3" 1920x1080 TN @120Hz 5ms, 94% NTSC, G-Sync

MSI GT73VR Titan Pro-202 nVidia GTX 1080 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5X
17.3" 1920x1080 TN @120Hz 5ms, 94% NTSC, G-Sync

MSI GT73VR Titan Pro 4K 479 nVidia GTX 1080 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5, 7th Gen Intel i7-7820HK
17.3" 3840 X 2160 4K PLS @60Hz LED Anti-Glare, G-Sync

MSI GT73VR Titan Pro 425 nVidia GTX 1080 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5, 7th Gen Intel i7-7820HK
17.3" 1920x1080 TN @120Hz 5ms, 94% NTSC, G-Sync

MSI GT73VR Titan Pro-003 nVidia GTX 1080 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5X
17.3" 1920x1080 TN @120Hz 5ms, 94% NTSC, G-Sync

MSI GT73VR Titan 4K 480 nVidia GTX 1070 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5, 7th Gen Intel i7-7820HK
17.3" 3840 X 2160 4K PLS @60Hz LED Anti-Glare, G-Sync

MSI GT73VR Titan Pro 4K-226 4K UHD nVidia GTX 1070 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5
17.3" 3840 X 2160 4K PLS @60Hz LED Anti-Glare, G-Sync

MSI GT73VR Titan 426 nVidia GTX 1070 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5, 7th Gen Intel i7-7820HK
17.3" 1920x1080 TN @120Hz 5ms, 94% NTSC, G-Sync

MSI GT73VR Titan 427 nVidia GTX 1070 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5, 7th Gen Intel i7-7820HK
17.3" 1920x1080 TN @120Hz 5ms, 94% NTSC, G-Sync

MSI GT73VR Titan 017 nVidia GTX 1070 Desktop GPU 8GB GDDR5
17.3" 1920x1080 TN @120Hz 5ms, 94% NTSC, G-Sync

 

Here is a quick test I made lol excuse my lack of editing...

I used AMD FreeSync Windmill demo but I used the test pattern to show.

GSync ON@120Hz 60FPS vs. GSync OFF @120Hz 60FPS

What's not shown on here which I tested later on was 45, 50, 55, 60 FPS and with GSync OFF it would look worse at 45FPS with tearing but with GSync ON it would look normal.

 

Thanks man appreciate it, forgive me for asking, so what would be your conlusion? That's a gt73vr with gtx 1080 right?

 

Nah this is on a 1070.. but I'm pretty sure that they all have GSync..

 

My GT73VR TITAN (puchased in Italy, near Milan) - GTX 1070 - 32 gb DDR4 - has a 120 Hz, FHD, Gsync panel


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Yeah the FHD 120hz / 5ms panel wasn't GSYNC certified so that also got me confused because when I ordered my laptop (see the model in my sig), it said GSYNC certified. Strange, I thought that FHD Panel wasn't going to ever be GSYNC certified

 

so it does have g sync, its just not certified? did get that right?

 

I can't be sure until I get the laptop to verify this, just placed my order last night

 

i see, i also placed my order last night, hoping it will have. because it's also mentioned in hidevolution.

 

oh you got yours from HIDevolution??

 

I have the 120hz 5ms TN screen and it HAS GSYNC even though it wasn't advertised as such. I verified this using the nvidia control panel and also by plugging in my Asus PG279Q monitor via DisplayPort. The monitor led changes color based on the mode and it switches into GSYNC mode right away. If I disable it I can see a difference.

My guess is that the Chi Mei panel that MSI uses wasn't certified in time for production and as such they can't advertise it on the packaging or something silly like that.

 

Please install AIDA64 Extreme, then go to the screen tab and tell me the exact model of that screen:

 

no i ordered it here in a shop in philippines but its the same model 425 with kabylake, i just checked for websites for g sync and i only found it in gentech and hidevolution.

 

im assuming yours has the skylake processor, i personally saw g sync in the nvidia control panel on that one, but im not sure with the kabylake and that's what worries me

 

I had a skylake 017 but I exchanged it for a kaby lake 425. Both had the same GSYNC screen.

@Phoenix I will get you the screen model info tonight after work.

 

that's a relief man thanks

 

Wait a second, I thought for a screen to be GSYNC certified, there has to be no Intel integrated GPU but this one has a switch for the IGPU? Or maybe because it's like a hardware switch which makes you choose one or the other then we still have G SYNC?

 

I have the gtx1080 model with the 120 5ms fhd display, under nvidia control panel I enabled the gsync indicator, and when gaming the "gsync on" caption shows in the top left corner.

 

what GSYNC indicator and caoption? can u show me a screenshot please

 

In the nvidia control panel you can select the option for an overlay caption to appear in game whenever Gsync is engaged in game.

 

Click on display on the top and then gsync indicator, then open a game.

 

I don't see anything under display, maybe it's not there for my current P870DM3 with Dual GTX 1080?

 

At the very top where it says file, edit, desktop, display.

 

ohhhhhhh now I get it, thanks man

 

So, gt73vr 425 have a g sync or No ?
I plan to buy the laptop
Sorry for bad english

 

With multiple similar posts in different threads you get a spammer status pretty soon....

 

i plan to buy gt73vr 425 but im confused . Panel of gt73vr have a gsync or no.
need help and answer
Sorry im
in a hurry

 

If it has gsync then you can turn it off or on in the Nvida control panel. Just look there it literally says G-sync


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I have the GT73 1080gtx with the 4k screen and I have G-Sync of that helps.


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What I don't get is people here are saying gsync is software based for laptops. If that's true then all laptops with nvidia graphics could implement gsync if the software is available for it? And if it is implemented would it be through a bios update. It just begs the question, how come all 10 series laptops don't have gsync if it's just a software based thing for laptops. With 1070 sli on my laptop I haven't noticed any tearing in dying light and it usually gets to 350fps or so. Adaptive sync works real well too but of course, limited to 60fps(which is fine for me I guess). Wish I could try fastsync but it appears to be unsupported in sli.

 

The early release of G-Sync requires both hardware and software support for it to work. It's likely this particular component is built-in in G-Sync certified display panels thus why if it's not certified then it can never function.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_G-Sync

 

Does the gt73vr 7re titan sli (dual gtx 1070), 120hz matte display support gsync ??

 

Do you know the submodel#? I know these models below have G-sync display.
GT73VR 7RF 425
GT73VR 7RE 427

 

Its a 7re 630kr ( probably a korean version )

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Doesn't look like it has it.