How To overclock Q9200ES to 3.2Ghz on 7555 8555 6555 very easy in standard Bios short tutorial

To some this will be unbelievable but it work. At least on my 7555 without problem.

I have got Advent 7555 bios A1722IDI ver 1.0P ram 8gb. overclocked to 3.2Ghz and the temp is very low cuz of i have made custom cooling.

If you have got Advent 6555 7555 8555 with original the Bios and Q9200ES inside everything you have to do is:

1 download yourself TS 3.0 as 3.5 wont work the way it should (throttlestop)

2 go to Bios and press Alt+Ins in Advanced settings disable intel C-state Tech and enable Intel Speedstep tech and Enable Active state power management if you want to keep cool your GPU

3 start windows (I have win 7 x64)

4 Start TS as administrator

5 on the bottom of TS click Turn On and then Unlink

6 mark only set multiplier and and set it to for example 10.5 click save and dont worry TS will show 2.8Ghz or whatever.

7 close TS and Job done

8 reboot your Laptop go to Bios on the first page you will see system info open it and you should see ratio 12 3.2Ghz

9 you do not need to start TS anymore there is something funny about Advent bios i am not sure how but TS change ratio in Advent Bios and then without ever again starting TS the ratio and speed remain.


10 After starting windows set power plan to balanced to keep the Cpu cool. even TS showed different speed before you rebooted now you shhould see in windows GPUz etc 3.2Ghz

11 the Cpu will stay overclocked in Bios until you reset Bios or you shut down the Laptop. if you only reboot or put it into sleep the CPU will stay overclocked and if you shut down and the CPU will change in Bios to default settings everything you have to do is to Start TS and just close it without doing anything at all, reboot Laptop and the CPU will go back to 3.2ghz.

anyway i just found it yesterday trying to overclock my q9200es and kind of cant understand how come TS has changed ratio cpu speed in Advent Bios.


CPU score in windows sometimes 7.4 or 7.3, CpuMark score 5329

any questions just ask this worked on my laptop and it should work on yours too.

 

ThrottleStop changes the maximum multiplier register within the CPU. I thought that most bios versions for most laptops would automatically reset this register when you reboot but I guess your MSI board doesn't. This "trick" might not work for everyone.

If you can explain that a little better, maybe I can fix up ThrottleStop 3.50 so it works too. Most of the recent changes have been for better support of the newer Sandy Bridge CPUs so maybe I broke something. Make sure in the Options window that "Do Not Reset FID/VID on Exit" is not checked when you exit ThrottleStop. That might help.

 

well when i start TS 3.5 (system i use is win 7 home prem x64), I unlock it and unlink it just the same as in TS 3.0 then i mark multiplier and it will star from 6 then if i go up to 10.5 i get blue screen i couldn't go over 10.5 i rebooted many times tried over and over again it didnt work every time i went to 10.5 i was getting blue screen

with TS 3.0 i can manipulate as much as i want not even one time blue screen

 

I've got BSOD over 10.5 but on TS 3.00. I've tried every VID settings but nothing helped, so can't go further than 2.8GHz. Any possible solution?

 

@unclewebb

I just discovered something new again

question for you

1 when I start TS 3.0 and set power to saver mode and multiplier max to 12 3.2 Ghz the Cpumark score is 4429

2 when I start TS 3.0 and disable power saver mode and multiplier max to 12 3.2 Ghz the Cpumark score is 4644

3 when I disable TS 3.0 and reboot laptop the Multiplier wont reset and it remain in Bios at 12 3.2 Ghz then i boot windows and the Cpumark score is 5530



Whys that ?


just restarted again and now without power saving mode in TS the Cpumark score is 5200 bit better i will keep TS running from the task manager.

 

do you have option Intel C-stat tech in your bios ? is it disabled ? if I for example enable it and the CPU is overclocked i wont even be able to boot into windows

try also run TS with disabled Intel SpeedStep tech

 

Speedstep is activated, but don't remember about C-state. Later I'll give it a try. What is the VID when you use it at 3.2GHz?

 

This is the same issue I experienced a while ago and told you about, we had a little conversation about it but I don't think I tried very hard to recreate it.

It seemed like a big problem at the time, although I was always able to get it to reset eventually by pulling the battery or something. I ended up with unstable clocks and my laptop would reboot endlessly.

Its funny, looking at this now it might have something to do with my Clevo m860tu being a little messed up in the BIOS or EC. Its stuck in low fanspeed mode, it will even overheat until I go into standby.

 

When unlocking a Core 2, the VID adjuster can go up to 1.50. If you are having BSOD issues, that usually means your CPU needs more voltage. Some motherboards are not capable of delivering the required amount of voltage. When this is the problem, a VID setting of 1.50 might not give any more voltage to your CPU than a setting of 1.40 or 1.30. I seem to recall some MSI boards had this issue with Quad core processors but don't quote me on that.

When adjusting the multiplier, always set the voltage too high to begin with. If you are stable while running Prime95 or a similar test, then it is OK to reduce the voltage one notch at a time and test again.

andy.lowel: If you are getting that big a difference between test 2 and test 3 then either your testing procedures are not very consistent or the benchmark program you are using is not very consistent. Make sure to disable things like your virus scanner if you want consistent results. Some Windows systems have a lot of junk running on them in the background and it can take a long time before things settle down enough for consistent benchmark testing. If you want maximum performance, don't use any power saving options. Also disable C1E when looking for consistent results.

niffcreature: If you ever need to reset your multiplier to its maximum default setting, click on the RESET button in ThrottleStop and your CPU will be returned to its default maximum multiplier. No need to reboot or anything like that. It's the button right beside the UNLK (unlock) button. If you get stuck in a BSOD loop because you went up too high with the multiplier without enough voltage, turning the laptop off and pulling the electrical plug and battery should get things back to normal. The bios is supposed to reset this register but some do not.

The last thing to keep in mind is that the Q9200 is an ES processor. They are not all created equal and may or may not be as stable as a retail QX9300. Usually they are not. Inadequate cooling is the biggest limiting factor to how high you can overclock a Quad Core laptop CPU. I haven't seen any Q9200 CPUs go as high as scook9's QX9300 record setting run.

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1014630_

 

Well C-state has to be disabled most definitelly.

my Laptop is overclocked to 3.2Ghz running on balanced plan
at 1.6Ghz 1.050v when full speed 3.2Ghz 1.3v

and i didnt touch voltage at all only multiplier

 

No C-state switch in bios, but disabled speedstep and get 3.06GHz. Never get this high because as soon as I adjust the multiplier above 10.5, it caused BSOD.

Edit.: now I am at 3.2GHz as you wrote in the beginning. Bios says 3.2GHz as well. Not tested with prime but its Team fortress stable. (multicore rendering enabled and all four cores are at work, but not 100%) Its enough for today. Tomorrow I'll continue benchmarking.

 

C-state you should see after you enter Bios and then press ALT+Ins (in different bios maybe combination of different keys) in advanced settings.
without Intel Speedstep you wont be able to use power saving modes the cpu will always run at 3.2Ghz

 

No alt+ins menu in this crappy bios. So no option.

Use Ts to keep it at low speed, but I really don't need it. I only use the notebook near a power socket 'cause when you stress the Quad the battery will be empty in minutes.

 

@unclewebb Hi just downloaded TS 4.0 and it work just as 3.0 mean perfect Multiplier unlocked to 12.5. could You unlock Multiplier in TS 4.0 to 15 ? I have made custom cooling in my laptop and the cpu when Idle 29C when 100% load at 3.2Ghz 60C i would like to try if I could overclock the CPU to 4Ghz but TS is I think locked to ratio 12.5



Little update look at pics below 3.333 Ghz I dont think i can make any better than that at the moment

CpuMark score 5720
Windows score:
Cpu 7.4
Ram 7.4


3.33 Ghz 1.3v
1.6 Ghz 1.05v

 

think Last update Stress Test Prime95 FTP with ram stress and without and temps when idle , Q9200ES at 3.33Ghz multiplier 12.5 two tests running for 10min

temps below

 

Custom cooling system?

 

yeah i have made new heatsinks for graphic card and the cpu, three regulated speed blowers and attached pad under the laptop. no noise at all.

 

Can you take some photos?

 

well I did already i post it in another thread not sure which one

will take some pics again if i can and will post it here
the only camera i have is in my touch phone and phone touch screen doesnt work any more i can get pic but wont be able to transfer it to the laptop sorry

 

What happens when you try to increase the multiplier higher than 12.5? ThrottleStop should let you do that but there is no guarantee that your CPU supports a multiplier higher than 12.5. If ThrottleStop goes higher but your CPU doesn't, that's probably a limitation of the CPU you are using. Post a screen shot so I can see how it looks with TS set to a 13 or 14 multiplier. Crank up the VID before you go for a higher multi to minimize the chance of a BSOD. You need a lot of extra voltage to remain stable when heading towards 4000 MHz.

Edit: Here's an example of a QX9200 running the 14 multiplier with the help of ThrottleStop.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/7002408-post349.html

It is definitely possible but if your motherboard can not deliver the required voltage, you might not be able to run this without a BSOD.

 

Hi,

At the moment TS 4.0 let me set multiplier up to 12.5 and I cant increase any more just as I cant increase voltage which max 1.3v

In TS 3.0 I could set max multiplier up to 12 and in TS 4.0 up to 12.5

below is a pic

 

LOL managed to increase multiplier to 13.5 VID 1.338

Q9200ES at 3.6Ghz !!

 

I told you that good things were possible with the QX9200 ES. Good work andy. Nice bang for the buck. If you can find a way to keep it cool you can run that speed all the time.

 

Keep it cool ?

3.7Ghz 1.3125V

when stressed using prime95 the temp is max 60C, CpuMark 6000 Windows score sometimes 7.4 sometimes 7.5 Cinebench 4.2 SuperPI 13.3 better than many I7 CPU's

when gaming for example MW2 the temps are around 50C both CPU and the GPU

idle temps are around 30C for the CPU and 40C for the Gpu, HDD 30C

I actually have question unclewebb I overclocked the CPU to over 4Ghz but had to increase the Voltage to over 1.4V to make it stable.

if I increase voltage to 1.5 volt i can overclock to around 5Ghz the question is will Motherboard or the CPU die if I keep the voltage around 1.5 1.6V for to long ?
or there is no danger to the motherboard and the CPU at all?


just want to say TS is a very good thing I always thought overclocking the CPU from Windows is never a good thing, stable, etc, I was wrong its very very easy and esp with use of TS

 

Sounds like you are having some fun with your QX9200 ES CPU.

I think the practical 24/7 limit for these CPUs is usually 3.6 GHz to 3.8 GHz. When you go beyond this speed, the voltage and heat quickly go up and up. If you feed a 45nm Core 2 CPU excessive voltage over an extended period of time, it can degrade. Will that happen in a day, a week or a year from now; I can't tell you. My rule of thumb is that if you cannot afford to buy a new CPU tomorrow then you probably shouldn't be exploring the outer limits of your CPU. 4000 MHz and beyond is getting to be the outer limits for these CPUs.

Why did you post a screen shot of your CPU running at 1600 MHz? Why not show the world what speed these CPUs can really run at. Who needs to upgrade to a Core i CPU when you can still buy these from various EBay sellers for $180 bucks.

I think the record for a retail QX9300 is ~4333 MHz, stable enough for a CPU-Z validation and that's about it. If you can go higher than 4000 MHz or equal that, post a pic and CPU-Z validation link.

 

@unclewebb


"...Why did you post a screen shot of your CPU running at 1600 MHz?..."


well it was only to show the temp when idle, windows is set to balanced mode. so when idle it is running at 1.6 Ghz when full load 3.7Ghz

i will leave the Cpu at 3.7Ghz as it doesn't get overheated or anything when i do rendering in AE at 3.7Ghz the cpu is never more than 60C so i thought first i will overclock more i actually went beyond 4Ghz and 5Ghz but was crashing not enough power.

anyway will leave at 3.7Ghz 1.35v

 

I have a quick request, does anyone have the Advent bios and firmware, been running the MSI one for ages but would like to take the system back to stock so that the quicklaunch buttons work correctly again.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

well if you installed MSI bios and firmware, you have lost touch buttons, touch pad and Advent turbo.

Advent bios allow windows to overclock Q9000 to 2.133 Ghz when needed actually it is better than MSI turbo button.

dont really know where from you could get Advent Bios.

the only thing I found is board for 40£ with Bios chip if you know how to replace it.

Advent 6555 Motherboard MS-17221 Intel Faulty | eBay



and here i found company who repair advent laptops, write to them an email maybe they will give you free of charge original Bios and EC

http://www.techno-mart.co.uk/