So apparently Newegg has a sale for the MSI GT75 for $2200 when the GTX 1080 version is normally $2800 ( https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16834154823). The processor is unfortunately an i7-8750H and not the i7-8850H. I was thinking about buying it and replacing the 256gb Sata SSD with a 500gb NVMe SSD. Do you guys think this is a good idea?
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DiMethylSulfoxide Notebook Enthusiast
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Falkentyne Notebook Prophet
I wouldn't touch an 8750H with a 10 foot pole.
And there's really no reason to buy a GT75 Titan unless you get the i9 8950HK. Why get the locked processors?
If you want the 8850H there are other models and the 8750H is a terrible processor. But that's just me. -
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I was under the impression that there isn't much of a performance difference between the i7-8750H and the i7-8850H. Does the ability to overclock the i7-8850H make it significantly more powerful than the 8750H? -
Falkentyne Notebook Prophet
Yes, you get a few more hundred mhz speed bins out of it.
But why are you buying a locked processor with MSI's best chassis? Even though i will never touch BGA again, I say go big or go home. Either go big and get an i9 8950HK with a GTX 1080, unlock your Bios and set your IA AC dc loadlines and enjoy the king of the BGA turdbooks, or go home. There are much cheaper options if you want a locked down processor, IMO.Arrrrbol likes this. -
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The problem is that to go up to a i7-8850H, it would cost $600 more than this deal. Or, I would have to go down to a GTX 1070 with the i7-8850H in order to match the price. I think I would be hard pressed to find a laptop with this good of a display and keyboard with an eighth gen processor and a gtx 1080 for this price. Would you agree that an i7-8750H with a GTX 1080 would perform better than a GTX 1070 with an i7-8850H? -
Falkentyne Notebook Prophet
I'm sorry if this is rude or mean, but I refuse to make comparisons on trash BGA processors I will never recommend to others.Arrrrbol and DiMethylSulfoxide like this. -
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No problem.I like honesty. -
Exacly performancewise there isn't much difference at all. The 8750H is absolutely fine for everything you could throw at it.
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I wouldn't trust turbo boost to make my games playable at a decent framerate. If your CPU throttles down to 2.2GHz while you are gaming you'll notice it immediately as that is far too low to keep up with a 1080 at 100+ FPS. At least with the unlocked one you can choose how fast you want it to run. Personally though i'd rather have 4 cores that I can control the speed of than have 6 and have to rely on Turbo Boost to do the job for me.Spartan@HIDevolution likes this.
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The Newegg deal also comes with a $300 prepaid rebate card from MSI, so it really is a ridiculously good deal.
I would take it.Kevin@GenTechPC likes this. -
As someone with the 8850H version (I wanted a laptop that used one power brick and didn't want to spend the large amount extra on an aftermarket one), I would have very happily went to the 8750H if it would have saved me $600 ($900 if you include the "rebate" card). The mechanical keyboard was one of the big selling points for me and I don't know of any other model that has one.
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The deal finally sold out over the weekend. It was around for a good couple of weeks, with NewEgg extending the $600 off sale couple of times. Now I wonder if this is NewEgg and MSI clearing stock for a new model early next year with the 20x GPU series. They also had the 7820 model for $1999 that sold out.
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I'm glad I was able to get one in time!
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I can see it's kinda over... but I had the 8750H gt75 and cpu-wise it was pretty perfect... there is no throttling as the gt75 has no TDP enforced on the cpu. So it ran at 3.9GHz flat not only while gaming, but also benchmarking. It did not overheat either but on stock paste and voltage it could get over 90C running prime95. Undervolting took it good 10C down. I can only imagine how bad the 8850H and i9 versions throttle when stock. The 8750H one does not. I did decide to sell it because I preferred something quieter... now I am stuck with coil whine on my 1080ti (already on my second one, suspecting motherboard to be causing it...) so I kinda miss the msi's fan noise now
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Coi whine is usually a function of PSU and the card VRM's, what causes the coils to whine is beat frequencies between the PSU regulators and the card regulators, either different card model, or different PSU will fix it.
CPU regulator could also cause that(worse if there is OC involved and the CPU is pulling 200W+), not so common, but.. -
Don't wanna hijack the thread... but I tried 2 different psu's already... and gpu has been replaced once.. so the only things left are motherboard (I found plenty on the asus forums who swapped mb for different brand and it was finally silent - that is why I suspect the mb) OR my house's power. Sadly to test if it's the mb we need to take mine and the bf's pc apart cause his psu is too weak to just swap gpu. If it's the house not much I can do other than move I guess?
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Did you have any issues with Dragon Center and whatever undervolting software you used (I assume Throttlestop). Also, do you remember how much you undervolted? -
I used the bios settings proposed by falkentyne (ia ac dc loadline setting). I did not mess with anything software-wise. And dragon center left this setting totally alone.
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Falkentyne Notebook Prophet
It's the motherboard.
Occasionally it's the video card but if you check the Z390 threads for the i9 cpu's this is a rather common problem now.
Is this GT75 offer worth jumping on?
Discussion in 'MSI' started by DiMethylSulfoxide, Nov 21, 2018.