https://www.gentechpc.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MSI-GE75-RAIDER-048B
Hi Guys!
I'm looking to get this PC and I had some questions about the exact config I should go for on the website.
1. Should I opt for any of the free thermal compounds? I of course would like more performance, but I am worried about making modifications to the manufacturer design. Do those compounds have any problems with longevity or corrosion?
2. Is there any reason to get the No Dead Pixel Warranty?
3. Same questions about the thermal compounds to the thermal pads.
4. I want the most professional appearing laptop, and the least "gamer". Should I go for any logo modifications or texture wrapping.
5. As far as I can tell it is way better to get two eight GB ram chips rather than one sixteen GB. Am I correct?
6. Should I go for the clean Windows installation?
Thanks!
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I would get the following;
-Liquid metal repaste
-Dual channel ram
-30 day dead pixel warranty
-Clean windows install
-Upgrade stock NVMe (if you can)
Also I had the killer wifi card replaced with an intel 9560, up to you.
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Thanks for the input!
Any particular liquid metal between the IC Diamond, Coolaboratory, or Thermal Grizzly? And which on CPU vs GPU? Also, when you say upgrade the NVMe, do you mean higher storage or a different brand altogether like Samsung? Only thing I'm worried about with the clean windows install is losing some of the MSI software. I haven't bought an MSI before, is their software useful/laggy? -
I chose thermal grizzly conductonaut, on CPU/GPU. For the NVMe I mean't brand but you could always choose a big larger one. I went with the Samsung 970 EVO 1TB. A clean install is a must imo, you don't need/want MSI Dragon Center or any of the bloatware.
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I actually got this exact system (though) with the 2070 from GenTechPC. The laptop is so easy to take apart, that you should not worry about them messing anything up while repasting. I actually got the thermal grizzly Konductonaut. This is the Non conducting paste so it’s not liquid metal, but still decent. I don’t know why but I’m I just don’t want a conducting thermal solution, even if it’s done by pros that do it daily.
Don’t forget besides the free repeating there was a free 30 day pixel warranty and a free manufacturer warranty upgrade to 2 years instead of 1.
But you have to make sure to chose those optionsIKAS V likes this. -
Upgrading the thermal interface material will provide better heat dissipation and will not void your warranty if it's applied at GenTechPC since they will back up their services should something wrong happen with it. You can contact @GenTechPC/ @Kevin@GenTechPC directly to clear any doubts you may have about it
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Thanks for the replies, I think I'll go with the conductonaut, pads, 1tb samsung nvme and the other free stuff.
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Awesome! Congrats
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What are your CPU and GPU with Konductonaut when gaming?
For some reason I’m not a fan of the idea of LM in my laptop either no matter how much better it works, but if LM can help with throttling then I’m open to the idea. -
LM is the best, if GenTechPC is anything like HID I believe they use foam dams to protect and guarantee their work. I wouldn’t buy a laptop without LM personally. I have 0 throttling.Last edited: Feb 10, 2019IKAS V likes this.
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im not an expert but i did do a stress test using Intel(R) Extreme Tuning Utility with a 5 min gpu stress test and had 0 throtelling.IKAS V likes this.
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Thanks for the answer temps on the CPU and GPU when gaming?
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I actually haven’t had a chance to game much so not sure yet. If there’s a test you want me to run and post the results, I can try doing that and post the results
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Nothing in particular just was wondering what temps you had when gaming.
Just trying to see the temp difference between Kryonaut vs Conductonaut .
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AFAIK Liquid Metal applications degrade copper-based heatsinks on the long term. And I'm quite sure that GE75 has a copper heatsink. I would not personally use LM. For sure its short-term performance is much better than any high-end conventional paste, but I would not be comfortable with the idea of my heatsink being corroded over time. Maybe I'm wrong and the modern LM and heatsinks respect each other. Any chemist on the room?
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Go to 12:30. Liquid metal is perfectly fine. The most you get is some staining but performance of the heatsink is fully retained. By all means though use normal paste, leave the best performance for the rest of us
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This is correct. It's not really about the damage, and LM is the best performing one. Considering these machines are non upgradeable, I wonder if they would be better off downright soldering the heatsink hahaha
permanent solution
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Was responding to @Txordi about him saying it may "corrode" over time, which is incorrect.
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Yes I know, I was agreeing with you. Its more like a stain that doesn't affect performance at all, as has been tested by several users over the years.Lunatik likes this.
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played a bit of Subnotica today and temps I dont think went past 83c, it did power limit throttle once though.
I have not done any modification/undervolting, this is just how it was with the Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut repasteIKAS V likes this. -
See my post in the main GE75 thread about how to raise the power limits
Also, prop the back of your laptop up on something, you’ll see a huge improvement on thermals. I find triangular engineering scales work very well as they are super stable.
Looking to get a GE75
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