MSI GS 40 6QD

I was thinking the same thing. Haven't seen any benchmarks on it as of yet, so it would be hard to call on the comparison to 1080 SLI as of yet.

 

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There are not any yet

We are looking at around 30% performance advantage over a single 1080 but with a much higher potential for overclocking especially on water (for a final OC vs OC advantage of 50% over the 1080).

 

I'm thinking about just purchasing the GS32 if this GS40 isn't released soon or MSI doesn't set a release date. I seriously want the 6700HQ/960m combo instead of the 6500u/950m combo but waiting is starting to get a bit impossible.

EDIT: Just took a look at GentechPC and their GS32 apparently has the 965m....this may be my purchase after all.

 

Yeah, with the GS43 in the works now and with so many Pascal GPUs having already been announced (albeit desktop versions, but mobile versions are soon to follow), I have serious doubts that the GS40 6QD will ever become available in most markets, despite its inclusion on the MSI website and apparent availability in a few places. I'm sure the GS32 isn't the last we'll see of Gaming Dock Mini, but I wouldn't be surprised if we had to wait for a GS43 before we get a 14" laptop that's compatible with it (and even then, I suspect the first versions of the GS43 won't be compatible with it, and we'll have to wait longer.)

I'm still willing to hold out for a while longer - mostly because I'm also willing to go for a 14" laptop that doesn't have a connection to an eGPU, but only if it comes with a mobile 1060 GPU or higher, and the mobile 1060 has yet to be announced (let alone laptops with them inside). I'd prefer a laptop like that over the GS32, honestly, given the GS32's small screen and dual core CPU. So if MSI doesn't get something better than the GS32 out reasonably soon, I'll end up getting something else - like a GS43 without dock compatibility or, perhaps more likely, the successor to the Clevo P640RE. Time will tell...

 

Also, just in case anyone is only reading this thread: GenTechPC has confirmed that their listing of the GS32 Shadow with a 965M was a typo. The GS32 is only available with a 950M. See here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gs32-shadow-6qe-w-gaming-dock.791865/page-10

 

Yup, it's quite unfortunate. I'm looking into other laptops with similar specs to what the new GS40 would be and I found a pretty nice ASUS laptop...ASUS ROG G501VW. For those who don't know, it's a 15.6" laptop, 6700HQ, 960m, thin/light, and has a TB3 port. Others have gotten it (among other ASUS laptops) to work with the Razer Core already and ASUS' XG Station 2 will have support for both TB3 and dual USB Type-C so ASUS will definitely support it.

The kicker is that the laptop is available for a high of $1200 but I've seen it being sold for as low as $700.

 

Funny you mention that...

I've been looking for lightweight TB3 equipped laptops and that came up. Turns out the G501VW has been deprecated and not being stocked/built anymore (at least in Australia, you may find stock lying around).

It was replaced with the G502 which is a bit cheaper and thinner but lacks TB3 (only USB 3.1 Type-c). I can only think it's due to low sales (it was quite expensive for a 960M machine). You may be able to find a UX501 though. It's basically the non-gamer version of it with identical spec except for different finish and glossy screen as far as I can tell.

Hopefully these 1000m models arrive sooner rather than later.

 

From what I gather, the UX501VW is almost identical spec-wise to the G501VW which is good because users have also gotten the Razer Core to work with the UX501 as well. I personally prefer the aesthetics of the UX501 to the G501 but the $300 or more price difference between the two cannot be ignored--especially because that $300 or so that you would save going for the G501 would take a good chunk out of the price for the Core. But this is all a backup plan if the GS40 6QD is not released in the states.

I personally don't care whether the notebook has a 960m or a 1060m...in fact, I'd honestly prefer the 960m since I'm sure it'll be cheaper. I don't mind turning down the graphics while on the go, but I am firm on getting a laptop with a proper quad-core CPU. I'd really prefer not to go the TB3 eGPU route...I'd much prefer MSI's docks but I'm not going to wait around forever. I don't plan on ordering a new laptop for at least another month so I'll give MSI some time to get their lineup in order.

 

It looks like the GS40 6QD is now on sale in Poland. The product pages don't seem to say anything about the gaming dock, though bear in mind I'm using Google Translate to read them in English.

http://www.x-kom.pl/p/306564-notebo...0-phantom-i7-6700hq-8gb-1000-gtx960m-fhd.html

http://www.skapiec.pl/site/cat/17/comp/17863853#ceny (links to the above page)

 

And the Czech Republic too:

https://www.czc.cz/msi-gs40-6qd-006cz-phantom-cerna/190544/produkt

http://notebook.cz/notebooky/MSI/msi-GS40-Pahntom-6QD-006CZ


And Belarus: http://catalog.onliner.by/notebook/msi/gs406qd008xpl


And Slovokia: https://www.andreashop.sk/msi-gs40-...16gb1x128gb-ssd1tb-hddgtx960m-2gb14-fhdwin-10


And Turkey:

http://www.sinerji.gen.tr/msi-nb-gs...8gb-1tb128gb-ssd-2gb-vga-140-freedos-pmu71711

http://www.novabilgisayar.com/bilgi.asp?ID=11165


It also is now being sold in Asia.

Here's Taiwan: http://www.books.com.tw/products/N010945450


And here's Japan: https://www.amazon.co.jp/MSI-ゲーミングPC-ノートパソコン-Phantom-GS40-6QD-001JP/dp/B01HRLZRSO


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So it looks like this is starting to see a wider release after all. Who knows how much wider it'll go, though.

 

6QE here, Finland: http://www.kannettavatietokone.fi/Kannettavat/MSI/GS40 6QE-011NE.html

 

I have checked a few of those websites but no one mentions the dock

 

That's also only about $1400 USD so I doubt it comes with the dock. Hmm...

 

Yeah, I don't know what the deal is, but it's strange. I haven't seen anything suggesting that MSI is selling the mini dock separately either, though I haven't looked too hard.

 

I'm so happy that I didn't wait for these laptop to come out

I have been playing with my new PC and first benchmark is totally worth it, 4k gaming is amazing!!!

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9649876

 

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This is probably is the death knell of the GS40 6QD: https://gaming.msi.com/promotion/alter-your-reality

If MSI is going to be announcing a new generation of laptops (read: Pascal GPUs) on August 15/16 (depending on your time zone), then I see a practically 0% chance that the 6QD will ever make it into markets where it isn't already released.

If we're lucky though, maybe MSI will be announcing some new laptops that are compatible with the Gaming Dock Mini.

 

We will have to wait and see, they could just upgrade the GPU on the GS40 6QD and still release it, a GTX1060 mobile would be enough

 

Yeah, we'll have to see what they announce Friday. At this point, I bought a used Zotac GTX 960 for $75 (killer deal) off of someone on Craigslist and put it in one of my servers with a Xeon E3-1240 v2 and I'm starting to remember how nice it was to have a desktop...

I'd still would much rather a nice, quad-core laptop with one of MSI's dock, though. I looked into the GS30 again and even though not having an dedicated GPU in the notebook would be difficult, I'd be able to deal with it. However, the GS30 cannot hold a 2.5" drive which means mass storage isn't really an option and that is a deal breaker for me if it's going to be my primary machine. It also seems like just about every seller is no longer carrying the GS30 anymore, regardless. ASUS has seemingly stopped producing the UX501VW and G501VW (two TB3 laptops confirmed to be compatible with the Razer Core) so MSI may have stopped producing the GS30. It's quite unfortunate that the people in the States are left with the GS32 as the only eGPU option left from MSI if that's true.

The GS32 doesn't seem like a terrible option, but from what I've heard from people over on the Razer thread and RazerZone's own forums, while the 6500u does alright, if a game requires any sort of CPU power over the typical amount, it becomes very apparent very quickly that the 6500u simply does not have enough juice. It seems the Core itself has it's own issues with pumping out juice and with the USB and Ethernet ports on the Core taking up some of the available bandwidth that the Core does have, I'm not so sure I want to deal with it. I'd much rather get MSI's dock even if it is proprietary.

That being said, I do plan on buying a GTX 1080 or the new Pascal Titan X when I do whatever it is I'm going to do. The Xeon E3-1240 v2 can still compete with a newer i7-6700 so worst comes to worst, I can always just buy a new chassis, motherboard, and GPU and just stick with a very small form factor like SilverStone's RAVEN. Regardless, I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do...I suppose it all hinges on MSI's announcement on Friday and whether or not they announce another eGPU compatible notebook. I will not be waiting forever.

 

I think you mean Tuesday (August 16th)

Yeah, I've heard similar things. It's particularly frustrating that MSI hasn't done more with its eGPU solution yet given the situation with Razer; the Razer Core an overpriced bottlenecking mess compared to the Gaming Dock Mini. If MSI sold something like the 6QD with their Gaming Dock Mini and a proper CPU, and they marketed it well, I bet they'd smoke Razer - even with a proprietary port. It could certainly do better than Alienware's current proprietary solution.

I know what you mean. It already feels like we have been.

As a new desktop isn't in my cards right now, I might become the only long-term participant of this thread who doesn't end up giving up on MSI's eGPU and getting a desktop instead If I do give up, it'll be to get a laptop with a 1060 or 1070.

 

Looks like details on the GS43 have come out...6700HQ and a 1060. Not bad but nothing on dock support.

Edit: it seems like it may have a desktop 1060? One of the websites says 1060, not 1060m.

 

Where did you get that information from? I'd like to read the whole article, or whatever there is. Thanks.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gs43.793376/

 

It's still possible the GS43 will have compatibility with the Gaming Dock Mini. The sources I found about the GS43VR are incomplete at best, because they don't include a list of all the ports (e.g., they don't mention anything about DisplayPort or HDMI, and Thunderbolt 3 is mentioned as a "special feature" rather than under the port specs section). So it's possible there will be a Gaming Dock Mini port. I wouldn't hold my breath, but we'll probably find out when MSI reveals its new laptops next Tuesday.

I wouldn't say that the GS43VR is "out" yet either - even though it's listed for sale on a couple sites, I wouldn't trust anything enough to buy it until MSI unveils its next generation of laptops next Tuesday and nvidia announces Pascal mobile (probably at the same time). Also, the Amazon page now says that the GS43VR is "currently unavailable."

That's right, there's been indications that nvidia is dropping the "M" series entirely for Pascal and putting desktop cards into laptops, though they're expected to have lower TDP and such. Should make for a nice performance boost.

 

It's official - the MSI GS43VR 6RE Phantom Pro is now for sale! MSRP is $1499 USD.

MSI international website: https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GS43VR-6RE-Phantom-Pro.html#hero-overview

MSI U.S. website: https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GS43VR-Phantom-Pro-6th-Gen-GTX-1060.html#hero-overview

It comes with a full "mobile desktop" GTX 1060 (no "M"), which is a great boost over even the 980M, according to NotebookCheck: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia...-1080-SLI-GTX-1070-and-GTX-1060.171566.0.html

At this time, it appears that the GS43VR 6RE is the only 14" laptop on the market with a new Pascal GPU.
No support for the Gaming Dock Mini though, unfortunately . Maybe a future version will support it, or maybe not.

Either way, the GS40, both the 6QE and the fabled 6QD, are now obsolete.

Farewell 6QD, we never even knew thee...

--Link to GS43VR discussion thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gs43.793376/ (post-announcement discussion starts at top of page 2)

 

Sorry for bumping this thread. But I'm currently in China and was wondering if its possible to pick up either MSI GS40 6QD or the MSI GS30 for cheap from somewhere around here. I will have help from a local while buying, online or physical location, but need to be able to find it for sale first. Any help would be very appreciated.