MSI GS30 Revealed

When docked, everything works including screen, KB, trackpad, USB ports etc.

 

I don't NEED a new laptop either (I could fix what I have), but I still want one.

 

Besides, fast SSDs start to lose data after 72 days.

 

Curious ... I've never heard that. Do you have a link where I could learn more?

 

I think he is talking about that weird claim that ssds loose data quickly. That only applies if you run them refrigerated and then heat them while off.

For SSDs higher temps during operation (to a point) gives a longer life (electron tunneling is less damaging). The opposite is true, cooler temps while it is off increase life span (electrons less likely to escape).

 

Thanks for clarifying.

 

Yeah quantum mechanics can be a little tricky to wrap your head around

 

So i got this bad boy :


Justification... by the time i buy a EVGA gtx 980ti and get all the water components it would of cost me $400 more than this thats already got watercooling ... also its still a reference card... and from linustech tips on youtube mentioned it should reduce the heat generated on the laptop on top, meaning lower temps for the cpu as well

Runs at 22-24 degrees C.... and can get a 500mhz overlock pretty easily without pushing it... plus resale value will still be high in the next couple years when i go to sell it to upgrade

 

Meaker, you're running a customized dock with the Titan X, right? Would the stock original dock run the Titan X without any modifications?

 

Quick q)

So this is with the hybrid in:





with the radiator, the fan is pulling the heat away ? and in this case blowing into the reference card fan and out the exhaust? can i just swap out the side fan and put this fan in its place?




the two little screws in the base where the HDD (if they were 5mm longer) would screw into the radiator... making cutting the hole like meaker beneficial... as it can then push the hot air out?

card running at 45 degrees atm.... so i dont know if thats too hot or not... i also here like water (sounding like hitting something hot and evaporating)... its either that or the air is coming out of the system overall super impressed.... need to repaste cpu to get a few deg's off

 

Easily.

 

Yes it runs fine at stock, when over clocking a lot you have to plug the notebook in too.

@frysie the side fan is 92mm while your radiator is 120mm. You could remove the fan and mod it in as a best fit but venting out a propper 120mm hole is better obviously.

 

So that is why you cut your base? So your fan is blowing down?

 

I never really plan on overclocking it regardless. The biggest reason I'm going with the Titan X over something like a 980/ti is because I want the extra VRAM. A stock Titan X should be completely fine for what I do.

But thanks for the help.

 

I cut it so I have a propper 120mm hole for maximum cooling. It was the only other place than the front to do it. I could have it venting out the front and in taking from the 92mm if I wanted to avoid cutting anything. You do loose the speakers in the dock and have to cut some plastic though.

 

Thanks meaker... i cant for the life of me find how to get the screws out of the side fan.... so i will need to cut the base Two holes are good... so im assuming i just need to measure the other two holes (near the back to make it fit).... however... its stilll blocking alot of the fan (from the side) ? Just need to find a mesh .... i assume you are pulling air and the side fan is pushing it towards the card and then out the reference card fan ?

 

I also removed the speakers on the front so I have a 120mm intake on the front and the side is left open without a fan. I did not use any existing holes, a drew up a schematic and got a totally new hole cut in the base.

As for how to get to the side panel I put up a guide earlier in the thread:

Basically the two screws on the back going into the plastic housing for the dock connector is the thing that holds the whole thing together.

 

Thanks mate so I decided to run the the 10A but bios Is causing intermittently hangs/freezes when I'm using a home port to the monitor... I have the internal screen OK... Just sometimes the monitor doesn't display the HDMI....

It's either that or your cup tweaking in xtu... I'll revert to default to see if that was what is causing it

 

Also is the screws in the dock M2.5x5mm ? I lost one :|

(the six screws to take off the face plate)

P.S

this is what I have been brainstorming... will it work ?

 

I know that MSI guarantees that any MSI or reference GPU will work inside the dock, but looking on Amazon, I found a "Superclocked" Titan X by EVGA. Do you think it's supported and do you think that the 330W PSU will power it?

Also, just out of curiosity, how difficult is it to replace the stock PSU with a higher capacity one? I didn't want to go tearing things apart but now I'm starting to think that I don't have a choice.

 

The original dock comes with a 450W unit which will power that titan-x, the super clocked is not that difference clocks/power wise. The PSU is about as easy as any desktop.

 

They are all reference design so it should work.
The PSU should be at least 400W to handle Titan X, otherwise it can overload the PSU and cause it to cut off upon overload.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9059/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-review/16

 

I do actually have to plug in my notebook with my 500W PSU when fully overclocked for instance, but that's because my core clock is around 1500mhz with the voltage at max and power limit removed with the ram running at 8ghz. Messing with the voltage ramps up power consumption hugely.

 

Hi @Meaker , sorry for being a royal PITA

Do you remember what your CPU temps were before/after repasting for your benchmark tests ?
My CPU gets around 70-80 degrees... is it worth my time doing a repaste? got my memory finally ... now to attempt the side panel removal to get that silly fan out

 

Yes my cpu is similar to be honest, I would not bother.

 

not bad... includes the iGPU as i was benching while doing a few things with xtu on the side on the couch

 

Things are mostly tdp limited.

 

Strange... ran uniengine on ultra high everything and my cpu ran hotter... around the 90 deg C max.... see questions/comments in pics

my GTI hybrid now fits snug (few mm's spare) with a 80->120 mm fan adapter... and it has a great seal... and it exhausts the hot air super fast

 

edit:

just re-ran... I ran the wrong XTU profile with the undervoltr... the iGPU was adding to the temps... now im about 80 degrees celsius with a better clock on the cpu 3.6ish....

anyway to make the XTU cpu profile be permenant?

 

I've explored getting an unlocked bios with svet but we did not have the best luck getting past the protection.

 

I know, that pesky protection is very bothersome! In my case, I don't even want to overclock, just run at my max turbo without underclocking. It's only 100-200mhz difference so it is not a deal breaker, but I just wish I could somehow set my TDP even at 50w instead of 47w... my max consumption undervolted is around 53w at 3.66ghz.

Oh well you think the protection is hardwired or perhaps on the EC firmware?

 

There are multiple levels of protection :/

 

I winder if I can make a bat file to run at startup to switch profiles

 

It will retain the profile on reboot if it's not changed from being docked/undocked at least.

 

Has anyone seen or heard about Broadwell or even Skylake updates, or the MiniDock? Curious seeing as how they have updated other GS series laptops with Skylake.

Newest thing I have seen is this, which is barely reliable news: https://www.reddit.com/r/MSILaptops/comments/3lpgik/msi_gs30_with_skylake_in_europe_where_to_buy/

 

There were shots of the GS40 being on a mini dock (using a different connector), so we will have to wait and see what MSI comes up with.

 

So they have decided to go upmarket a bit and use a Type-C connector to possibly dock? That sounds great, but I still really like the appeal of a Iris Pro (or lower-end dGPU) in a lighter (sub 3-lbs) laptop with a smaller power brick to carry around. Hopefully GS30 isn't dead.

 

I dont think a Type-C has enough bandwidth to support PCIE-3.0 ?

 

That was mentioned in the gs40 thread as well. But then why would they put it on top of a GamingDock Mini?

 

alienware did ... well with their propeitry connection

overall, im really impressed with my purchase of the GS30. I like the portability and the thing is light... can play everything on ultra no probs at 1444. i need a 4k screen now

 

Everyone seems to complain about the AW being bandwidth limited, but is it that big of an effect in day to day gaming?

 

to me it's like buying a ferrari but limited to only using the speed output of a hyundai. For a lot of people... any restriction tends to negate the benefits.

 

If used as a dock connector it would use alpine ridge to drive that connection:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9485/...-asrock-asus-gigabyte-msi-ecs-evga-supermicro

It gets up to PCI-E 3.0 4x bandwidth from the chipset side of things, of course doing really high speed I/O may impact FPS if using it but it's a valid amount of bandwidth.

 

So using precision EVGA... my cpu watts max readout was 700 watts? what the?



gpu runs fine at 1500mhz at 58-60 degrees 24mv overvoltage.

 

GM200 can spike a LOT of power.

 

are you suggesting the 700W on the CPU is really the GPU ?

 

It could be messing with the numbers. But then again this is a catch all monitoring program so it won't be 100% in all figures all the time.

 

Thanks @Meaker , should i be using CPU-Z and GPU-z to monitor them seperately?

 

Use a of them at once if you get any strange readings, then they could all still be wrong

 

Yeah, using a bunch of monitoring software is good, some might be reading things very differently. Some don't read things correcty and don't even care, showing arbitrary numbers like GPU vRAM etc.

My HWmonitor sometimes says my CPU is at 4.2Ghz, which is obviously impossible, but I don't know what causes such spikes.