MSI GS60 Ghost/ Ghost Pro Thread

If I order this from the US, will I have to have an adapter to charge it because I live in NZ where the power cord shape is different. Please help me!
Thank you.

 

Looks like someone uploaded a benchmark video of Tomb Raider for the Ghost Pro, just wanted to share. That 93C tho.

 

You change the chord going into the brick from the wall.

 

Hello everyone!

First of all, I want to thank everyone who's posted on this thread, specially the GS60 owners who shared their info and awesome pictures on their experience with this laptop, and the ppl at XoticPC and GentechPC who uploaded reviews and have been answering questions left and right.

I ordered the 870M model with the 1080p panel, to me it offers the best balance of power, price and portability at the moment, had preordered the 14" Razer Blade, but Razer sent an email informing us there were delays on fulfilling orders, so I canceled my preorder, their loss I guess

I have a question, I intend to upgrade the memory from a 8+4GBs configuration to an 8+8GBs to enable dual channel operation, and was wondering if there's an specific make and model of RAM I need to accomplish that.

At the moment I'm looking to order this SO-DIMM:

Amazon.com: Crucial 8GB Single DDR3 1600 MT/s (PC3-12800) CL11 SODIMM 204-Pin 1.35V/1.5V Notebook Memory CT102464BF160B: Computers & Accessories

Do any of you guys know if this particular module will work on my new laptop, or would you be so kind to share with me which RAM will work flawlessly?

Thank you very much in advance

 

Another question on the battery: does any of the owners have an idea about how long it takes to charge from 0-100% when it's off/idle/load?

 

I can probably test this later today, but off the top of my head I'd say that under load it takes just under 2 hours. I'll edit once I've gotten a chance to check this.

 

Hi everyone,

After reading through the many pages i have some questions before i pull the trigger on the gs60 which should be out here in the skandinavian region this month. It doesn't need to be answered by anyone in particular.

1. What is the absolute maximum battery time people have gotten with their gs60 (both models), during normal tasks like browsing web and writing documents? I wish to know the maximum that's possible, so maybe low brightness would help.

2. A bit of the same as the last one. Does anyone know if the user can do anything to limit noise (in theory), or is is something which needs to be patched in a config by msi? Regardless, have any of the owners tried to limit noise?

Regards to you all

 

1. I can fairly easily get 4h, you might be able to push it to 5h if you lower the brightness all the way (I keep it on the second lowest setting). For example, I've been doing some word processing on the second lowest brightness for het past 3.5h and I'm at 33% battery.

2. In theory I think its possible - it was done for the MSI GT60 by a user on this forum. As of right now though nothing is available which allows you to lower the fan speeds.

On another note, my battery indicator is acting a little strange and I was wondering if any users had a similar issue? While charging the battery indicator will randomly say that the computer is not charging (for like 10 seconds) then it'll switch back to saying its charging. The same thing happens when not plugged in, my battery indicator will say discharging and give me a number like 50% then randomly jump to 100% for a minute or two. Should I be worried? Is this a software or hardware issue? I restarted and it doesn't seem to have fixed anything. I checked the "Dragon Gaming Center" and the battery information is the same as on the taskbar. Note that the blue light indicating charging does stay on even if the taskbar icon goes to non charging while the laptop is plugged in. I'm a little worried

Cheers

 

YMMV, but in previous laptops, I had some success by adjusting the power options to limit the maximum processor state to something other than 100%. This, in essence, prevented the cpu from using turbo boost, which limited the heat and resulted in lower fan speeds. Those were Ultrabook processors though, so who knows if it would work with these. Would be nice if someone could try this and test it with non gpu tasks.

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Are there any modders like Prema (Clevo Bios's) who can bring out a modded Bios with lower Voltage to the 870m? The temps seem a little on the high side.

 

Thanks a lot man! Am i to assume that that you have the non pro ghost model (860m)?

Sounds somewhat promising, i think i'll just stay away from experimenting and wait for a patch from msi or some third party.

 

I would say that's possible yeah. Only problem is that the gs60 is so new, so we're gonna have to wait some time for that :/

 

Hey thanks for sharing my Video here I just uploaded a Crysis 3 one do check it out as well.

 

By the guys, anyone currently have issue with MSI GS60 2PE Ghost Pro? I am experiencing very bad "Memory Leakage" on my unit (Take a Look at the photo below)





I ran full-screen games at 2560x1440p, and my Native desktop resolution at 2560x1440p as well, I'm still experiencing Memory Leakage and Full-Screen titles tend to crash after awhile. So I can't really play games for too long now...

PS: Another issue, those who plays Diablo 3, if you updated to Nvidia Beta Driver 337.50, are you experiencing mass FPS drops? I ran my Diablo 3 with 337.50 with less than 15 FPS, even in low settings or low Resolution. The only way is to use the WQHL patch 332.38.

Many issues for new Series 800M chips...

 

Has anyone tried to undervolt the cpu and gpu (is the voltage for the gpu locked or unlocked?). I plan undervolting both once I get the laptop to try to boost the battery life (and lower the heat).

 

I hate to break in to this, but if y'all can help me out with a few simple clarifications I'd really appreciate it.

the 860m in the GS60 ghost is hitting 93c while gaming?? it's kinda hard to tell who's talking what about which. I know the 870m runs hot, but if the 860m runs about the same temps, I think I'm better off searching for something in a maxwell.

It's for my wife, so I can't afford to buy something that's going to run so hot it self destructs in a year.

 

GTX870M:
Hi there, I've tried it. You are not able to reduce the Voltage, this should be normal for Mobile chips, not sure how Battery Boost works, can't find it anywhere

As for Core Clock and Memory Clock, you are able to reduce

Core Clock by -135, to a lower at 824 MHz
Memory Clock by -500, to a lower at 2005 MHz

I don't think it's worth reducing the FPS as I tried playing Crysis 3 again with reduced Clocks, and temperature is just 3 degrees difference,

Standard Clock = 93 Peak Degree Celsius
Lower Clock = 90 Peak Degree Celsius

I am planning to do a IC Diamond re-pasting when I'm free.

 

Sorry I can't answer you on this, as I don't have the Kepler GTX860M Ghost to try, but the temps should be lower for sure.

 

The problem is the forums are really fragmented. GenTech 3dmark runs show 74c, which is on par with what I'm seeing out of my maxwell equipped 860m, and that'd be just fine. Going further out, however, people SEEM to be complaining about 93c on 860m equipped GS60's. Add to that that people are talking about units equipped with 860m and 870m without clarifying, and it just makes for a bit of a confusing read. ><

 

Haha yeah dude, it's really much fragmented, I myself have trouble reading up, my bad. I will tag it as GTX870M for you

 

Yes, I have the non pro version with an 860m.

 

Maybe we should complicate it further and have separate threads for pro and non-pro

I've already screwed up twice thinking I was in one thread to realize I was in the wrong thread for msi and gigabyte.

 

*I* wouldn't complain I know it's just a simple question, but for me it's of huge importance and kind of life or death. This is not a. . .planned purchase. I had one of our family units die on us this morning, so I need to make a decision probably no later than tomorrow morning. I flat out *CANNOT* afford $2500 for a Blade pro, but I also cannot afford to save $800 only to find out the thing runs in the 90c range and melts itself in six months. Some people may be perfectly fine with running those temps for sustained periods of time, but I am not one of them.

I'd also love to believe the reviews, but if those were engineering samples equipped with the maxwell 860m ... it's not really representative of the final product.

In short, I ar confuzzled

I'm probably also WAY overthinking this...

 

The GE line has Maxwell, GS line has Kepler.

 

I don't believe that at any point (engineering sample or not) was the a gs60 with a maxwell 860, all were and kepler.

 

What ill effects would high temperatures have on the gpu and cpu? If they aren't surpassing their tdp would they still "melt" like how mindinversion said?

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My 870m equipped GS60 reached a max temperature of 94c degrees. I can almost boil water with this.

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Well... It will not melt, but it sure poses a potential threat to the components, with 2 years warranty, should be relatively safe? Anything wrong just bring down to service center haha

 

Does anyone fancy trying this application I found on the msi forum. You could possibly flash the vbios to up fan speed and lower voltage.

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=148273.0

 

You can edit the fan profile but not the gpu speeds since it's not separate and in the system bios.

You would need to extract it, edit it, repackage it and then flash it.

 

so after a few days with the msi gs60 860m i'm pretty happy.

I do have some issues with the wifi dropping out randomly because of poor signal!! i'm right beside my wifi router as well and it just happens randomly while watching you-tube or surfing the web, i have not had the chance to do any long gaming sessions on the laptop because of school work but i see this being a real issue! (and no my laptop is not running hot when this happens, I have to reconnect the wifi to resolve the drop out)

btw could someone recommend a good case for this laptop, the weird size 15.6 makes it alittle hard to fix in my backpack (Nike ultimate mix air gear backpack) normally holds a 17inch but with the little sleeve i got from msi, it won't fit. Could someone recommend a nice sleeve and protection options please

 

Its not so much the GPU speed as I could do that from within Windows. I've asked the guy who makes the software if we'll be able to do edit GPU voltage in the future. I'm hoping with less voltage and 100% fan while gaming combined with a repaste using Collaboratory Liquid Ultra TIM (if the heat sink isn't aluminium) I might be able to get the temps just under the 90C mark. It also helps that i'm back in chilly England.

 

Hello Mindinversion!

I do wish others would make use of the signature line and say what they have as well.

But, no, the 860m runs in the low to mid 70's when gaming. It will hit 75C in 3Dmark11, run about 72C in BF4, and when I overclocked mine a small touch I saw 81C in Blood Dragon, which is hotter than anything else I've tried with it over the past 3 weeks. CPU runs 70-80C when gaming.

When doing normal office stuff and non gaming, GPU is off and CPU runs in the 35-50C range.

860m is the choice you want if temps are a concern to you. Go 870m if you want a bit better performance at the expense of about +15-20C hotter temps to run a few extra graphic options.

 

Yea, I did a *LOT* of re-digging through these forums last night [along with the entire internet, it seems] and realized that the 2nd Gentech video was from 4/06, which made me feel a lot better about the whole thing Ultimately, I gave my wife all the information I had, showed her the videos and gave her a choice between the 2013 Blade pro or the MSI. She Chose the MSI. The order has been placed ^^

I realize it seems a little bit like paranoia, but I'm not going to be the one operating this thing. She's not gonna be monitoring temps and worrying about it, she's going to be beating the heck out of it with Diablo 3, MwO, possibly Titanfall... and the slightest hiccup, the slightest falter in performance, and I'm going to hear about it,

FOREVER

*AND EVER*

Ok, "melt" is kind of a strong word. These chips have thermal shutdown threshholds somewhere around the 100-105c range [that's both CPU *AND* GPU] Typically they start throttling 7-10c before that. As long as you're under max temp and it's not throttling or causing issues, you're [probably] ok.

The issue is that, even though those temperatures are "safe", they are still kind of extreme. Sustained high temperatures can wear components down over time, causing them to possibly degrade and lose their ability to perform, or lead to an outright failure.

Thank you for this. Reviews are nice, but a real world report DEFINITELY sets my mind at ease!!

 

Heres some information from the msi forum:

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I've been looking over this thread and have a query. I'm considering getting a GS60 Pro in the near future. The only this putting me off is the crazy high temps of 93C load on the GPU. In the future will I be able to use this tool to set ether the vbios or software voltage and fan speed on the 870m?

About voltage which related to the vbios, 8xxm are not supported, im researching them, don't know if i will add support for them or not, and if yes when. FYI for this 870m, by default you should have voltage control on the fly via Nvidia Inspector.
About FAN speed, this is not related to the video card, ie: not vbios either.
But via EC controller, GS60 models are already supported by the tool and you can tweak its FAN[which for is both CPU/GPU]
FYI: for this particular model the FAN don't like to lower below 42% exclude turn off state,[lowest default is 48%, which can be set to -6%[300-400RPM] or turned off for direcltly for lowerst temp trigers from the temp curve instead to running non stop with regardless of the temp] else if set [1-41%] this particular FAN start doing low/high pattern loop issue.
so valid options are from 42-100% + 0[FAN OFF], refer to: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=179676.0

 

Ran into an odd issue this morning. I've uninstalled some of the random MSI apps and config utilities over the weekend, powered down my GS60 pro and then tried to boot today. It shut itself down before ever trying to boot.

I was able to get into the BIOS, tested a bunch of different options to see if I could boot, and even thought maybe I had knocked something loose.

Turns out the "CFG LOCK" enabled setting now prevents me from booting, which is a BIOS default. If I turn that off I can boot fine.

Anyone have any ideas what that is and if its related to me uninstalling some system utility from MSI?

 

Can you find out what your wifi router band is? I'm betting it's 2.4ghz and not specifically AC probably specializing in N or G correct?

There's documentation about our wifi card and problems with these specific routers

 

Has anybody tried overclocking the Kepler 860m? How far does it go?

 

So this just arrived from Newegg, my new GS60 Ghost Pro 0052. I'll post my first impressions shortly.



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Ok first impression right off the bat... this thing is LOUD! I haven't even loaded a thing on it, and the fans are very, very loud. This could be a deal breaker for me, but we'll see as I start benching and testing the system.

 

Please keep us updated. I'm thinking about purchasing a pro today. Maybe a 3dmark11 bench, and some GPU temps?

 

Not shocked by this, but don't dismay just yet. I've configured 3 notebooks so far in the past 2 weeks. 2014 Blade pro, just doing windows updates and downloading D3, was sitting in the upper 80c range with spikes as high as 91c! When I loaded Diablo 3 on the aged Asus G73-JH [RIP] it hovered in the mid 70c range. When I went through my older son's MSI 683-DXR, he was loading some game on Origin, and it, TOO, was running in the mid to high 70c range! That's three different make/model/year notebooks all exibiting similar behavior. I'm not sure why, but I suspect once you get everything loaded [doesn't hurt to disable indexing BTW] it'll settle down.

On a side note, the air out of the blade didn't FEEL like 91c air, so I don't know if it was something with the temp monitor or what, just something else to keep in mind.

 

using the MSI dragon gaming control panel you can see the fan speed in rpms

web browsing it hovers around 2800-3000 rpms for me and is very quiet, can you report what rpms yours is at when you say VERY LOUD?

 

Does the MSI GS60 and GS60 PRO have the same level of fan noise or should I expect the regular gs60 to be less noisy?

 

So checking in DGCP I see the fans are spinning at between 2800 - 3100 rpm, but to me it is pretty loud. It's definitely not a deal breaker just yet, we'll have to see how bad it gets when I start benchmarking the system. I just downloaded 3DMark so i'll post some numbers from it shortly.

 

They should be the same. The only time they might be different is when the gpu is being used (like gaming), in which case, the gs60 might be quieter for gpu tasks that aren't very taxing. To elaborate, the scenario would be that the 860m is running cooler than 870m for some task so there is no need for a higher RPM state that the 870m might want since it has higher TDP. But there will be no difference in the two laptops when on idle, browsing the internet, or playing games like Metro, Crysis, BF4, etc.

 

That's the problem with noise ha... LOUD is very subjective and hard to compare. Mine too idles/light usage around 2850 RPM and I wouldn't consider it loud either.

Under load with both fans going it is still quieter than the full size GT60 series.

ACEFSPADE, at idle or light load they will be identical, and while gaming should be similar, with the 860m possibly being a bit quieter due to lower temps allowing the fan to occasionally slow down a little. Max fan speed is supposedly the same.

 

can you set fan on 0 and report what temp you get on idle?
I did it on Asus n500jk (same procesor) and it idle on 50 - 52 celsisus, web browsing and Youtube on 54 and HD video streaming from homenetwork via router on 58, so practicly noisless in simple task and not overheating.

 

Ok so quick 3DMark 11 run done, results are below.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 870M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700HQ,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16H2

Have to run again though as MSI Afterburner was not running at the time so I couldn't pull up detailed info on the temps and fan speeds. Again this is all just early tests, i'll do full benchmarks and game tests in the next couple days. So far though aside from the loud idle fans, this beast is amazing, very happy with the purchase. Let's just see if that remains the case once I start really putting it through it's paces (thank god for Newegg Premier return policy).

 

mine is the 860m model

sometimes it will hit 3333 rpms and it does have a noticeable whine compared to the 3000 rpms while web browsing