MSI GS63VR Display Panel

The positioning of components in those models is...disappointing. I wish they would consider user access when designing all machines.

 

Yeah You'd think that they design a product for enthusiasts so theyd take into consideration the fact that we would always be looking for more at some point. I honestly though about the GS43vr insted just for the easy access to the components...but when i saw the gs63vr in person i just fell in love with the design...too bad i didnt pay attention to how awful the screen was. thought about going with an asus gl502vm....but the battery life is worse on that laptop. I ordered a 1tb 960evo, so i guess im in for another round....oh well....will keep you posted...might do the thermal compund this time around...any suggestions???

 

Today I was at Fry's which gave me a chance to try each of the GS63/GS73/GE62 screen types side by side.

1. The 4K model of the GS63VR and GS73VR had the most impressive visuals, smoothest images, however small text does suffer the screen door effect from the pentile matrix.

2. The GS63VR- 230 with 1080p had equally vibrant colors to the 4K, brightest screen, and best viewing angles and most legible small text. That said, aside from the more vibrant colors, I didn't notice the "huge" difference that everyone has mentioned between the 230 and the Apache Pro that was next to it (I'm told the Apache Pro uses a similar screen to the GS63VR-001 from Best Buy). I'm not sure if the 230 was using the Samsung PLS or the "IPS-Level" LG model.

3. The 120 Hz 1080p GS73VR had washed out colors similar to the Apache Pro and GS63VR-001

Basically, with these MSI's you're in a panel lottery. It appears that you can choose from fast response time with washed out colors, Great color and brightness with PWM, or a 4k screen with great graphics and jagged small text.

 

We use IC Diamond, others may suggest CLU but I think it's only much better if you delid.

 

I have IC diamond available here at home..does it make a big difference??? Just trying to know if its worth taking the heatsinks apart? Also my NVME drive idle around 60-65 degrees..i think this is a bit hot, its a BPX drive. What temps have you seen with NVME drives? Imm thinking bout swapping it for a SM960 EVO...I did read that the temp sensor on this drive is inside the controller itself and that thermal limit for the controller is 125 and throttles at around 80..what do u think i should do? I have a SM960evo available

Update: From the manufacturer: "Not to worry, our drive definitely runs hot, but the main reason for that is because we put the heat sensor on the controller itself whereas our competition put the sensor further away on the PCB. You will not need to worry unless the drive breaks the 120c mark."

 

For what it's worth, I got my Xotic-built GS63VR Stealth Pro-230 today (FHD) and I think the screen looks great. It's much better than the shoddy one I saw at Best Buy!

 

Thats cause it is!!

 

Typical differences are in the 4C-9C range, less than you might find when applying in a desktop, but YMMV. 65 is far from unusual for any M.2, they have thermal shielding for a reason, and can get very hot under load.

 

That's great to hear! Hope you're enjoying it!

 

EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT!!! From what the manufacturer says its supposed to be ok still but not in my world!!!

On another note Can anyone help me with something...in my event viewer upon every boot i get a stornvme "The driver detected a controller error on \Device\RaidPort0." which corresponds to my nvme drive, only happens upon every boot. I have the most updated chipset and RST drivers from intel. Any ideas????


From the Manufacturer:

"Not to worry, our drive definitely runs hot, but the main reason for that is because we put the heat sensor on the controller itself whereas our competition put the sensor further away on the PCB. You will not need to worry unless the drive breaks the 120c mark."


Douglas Hare
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So I was at Best Buy and they had a GS63vr 001 and 252 on display. Not sure how it's possible but the 252 had a WORSE display than the 001.

I went into the device manager on the 252 and the monitor Hardware ID was CMN15D2. The color temperature was way too cold and the contrast was worse than the LG or the BOE found on the 001.

I know MSI is trying to save money, but the screen on the 252 ($1549) is worse than the $500 laptops on display. Unless you're going to be using an external monitor for projects, I'd say get an 034, 068, 230 or 229.

 

001 has a reallymediocre screen...cant imagine the 252 having one worse

 

Is that the 120hz Gsync capable one from AUO?

 

Not that i can tell i think this is just a 60hz panel im a bit confused about the gsync part i have a LG LP156WF6-SPB1 also lying around and i just read it was supposed to be gsync certified, i assumed to enable gsync you needed some sort of module on the monitor like my dell gsync monitor....maybe i can swap this one out for that one to enable gsync can someone elaborate howw this works...thanks

 

Might also need a particular driver too, I think it doesn't allow you to enable it with most (including the MSI driver). I could be wrong, but that's the way it seemed when it came up before.

 

Both hardware and software support are definitely needed for G-Sync to work.
For example, SLI technology needed two PCIe x8, and Nvidia certificate in the BIOS for it to function.

 

From doing a search on the panel specs, there are a handful of "comparable" panels to the LG that's in the 001 model. The BOE is a slightly better panel with 800:1 typical contrast and better viewing angles, the LG is 700:1, with slightly worse viewing angles and at the bottom rung is the Chi Mei with 600:1.

Maybe the floor models got worse screens but I doubt it. The blueish gray tinge to the screen made colors extremely inaccurate and limited contrast severely. I advise anyone considering the 252 to try it out in store and if you buy, make sure the panel is acceptable to you.

 

There also seems to be a lot of variation within some runs of panels lately (thinking of the chimei specifically), so that might also contribute to a poor display on some units.

 

I have a 001 and I replaced the panel with a Samsung PLS one. ..that one had a few stuck pixels and replaced it with a AOU Panel which is night and day above the stock one

 

I have the 252 (the price was right), and that's the screen I have: N156HGE-EAL. The fact that it is a screen is the best I can say. Has colours, displays pictures and video. I'm not overtly picky, and I use an external monitor 90% of the time now as well.

 

That's the one I was thinking about. It's not that they are bad screens overall, just there's a lot of variance in them.

 

Tested another 252 model at Best Buy. It also had the extremely poor Chi Mei screen. The viewing angles and contrast are far worse than the 001 they also had on display. Just another warning, if you're going to be using this without an external monitor, do NOT get the 252 if you're at all worried about screen quality.

 

There's a reason they cost less than equivalent models elsewhere.

 

One has two choices...live with it if u buy it or spend a bit more and get a better model...In all honesty i dont recommend the average joe to just do wha ti did and swap panels.

 

Save the hassle on swapping and go with a better model that uses a better panel. It may be cheaper this way.

 

What screen did you end up getting? I also need high srgb and adobe rgb for work and want a pro 4k scrren.

 

Hello Guys! I bought an MSI GP62MVR laptop. Fantastic performance. Especially after swapping out the HDD for an SSD. But the thing is, it came with this LG Panel (LP156WF6-SPK1) which isn't really a great panel per-se. Display is washed out, though some calibration icc file and cranking up saturation in Intel Graphics control panel helps, still doesn't take all the problems away.

I had the Dell 7559 laptop before. Upgrading was EASY! Screen, and even only one screw to get the everything under the hood. A dream really! (16 screws under the MSI LOL!).

Anyways, i also bought the AUO B156HAN01.2 which is a fantastic screen but i'm looking to replace it now and i saw where Tanner@XoticPC wrote about breaking the bezel or so. I didn't find a bezel named for my laptop. But can anyone confirm to me that this is the same Bezel? Same one for MSI GE62

http://www.ebay.com/itm//162451975527

It sure does look similar. Thinking of buying it before i attempt to replace my display

 

Hey, I read through all of these, but I can't seem to get an answer for my question. I'm looking to purchase a gs63vr 001, i csnt afford the 4k option right now I am now reading the 001 has a bad panel. Can I change that panel for a 4k panel? Would the 4 lane edp connector work for the 001 (30 pin 2 lane) model? Which one of these panels would work?
http://www.panelook.com/LQ156D1JW31_SHARP_15.6_LCM_overview_26820.html


http://www.panelook.com/LP156UD1-SPB1_LG Display_15.6_LCM_overview_26868.html

Thanks alot!

 

eDP is the type of connector used but the panel used 2 lanes instead of 4 so let's wait for others who had done this before to give you an answer.

 

Ok, I'm thinking I would just buy 001 model and just swap out for the better 4k display. The price isn't bad for it. I just need to make sure that it will work. I don't want to be stuck with a bad panel.

 

That's definitely true.

 

So I do not have you laptop, I have an MS1781 MSI whitebook and a 16L13 , but I stumbled on this thread and thought I might be able to help.

First of all can you give me your current cables model number? Most likely it is 40 pin at the motherboard and converts to 30 pin to connect to the screen. If this is the case the cable you will most likely need is k1n-3040052-h39. This cable is the MSI 40 pin to 40 pin eDP cable. I have one on order now, I have ordered 3 separate ones now from Aliexpress, but they always ship the wrong part number. I ordered my new one from Waresphere so I am hoping it will be the correct one this time. They assured me it will be.

With the new cable you should be able to use most 40 pin edp screen if the pitch is the same.

Before you purchase one though I would recommend you send me your model number first so I can at least try to see if it is compatible for you.

 

Is this a conversion cable? Same pitch but has 30-pin on one end and 40-pin on the other?

 

This is the legit cable that MSI sells when they have a laptop with a 4k display. It is a 40 to 40pin eDP.

Most newer MSI boards are a 40 pin(flat slide in ribbon cable female end) on the mobo. And they go 40 --> 30 in the cable (like my current one)

 

I don't have the current cable. I am in the process of purchasing the laptop. ill try contacting support to see if they can help. although, i doubt they will be able too. If it is the case where the mobo has the 40pin connector and it can work, then thats awesome.I thanks so is it that all 001 models come with the poor screen or just some? the model i am going to purchase is the gs63vr 6RF.

 

001 model has a subpar display...most other ones have a better one. Das for the new edp cable..i think u can source one online...i didnt go that route and just swapped for a better panel..also if u are careful u dont need another bezel...mine came off clean.

 

I just picked up one of the 6RF used. It is an 001, which wasnt my first choice but the price was too good to pass up. Better news is the screen turns out to be an IPS from everything I can tell. It is an LP156WF6-SPK3, LGD0533. I wasnt able to find much on it that wasnt in Chinese, still what I found indicated it is an IPS and beyond that colors look good and viewing angle is great and is plenty bright. So if you are going to get an 001, it appears some have an IPS. The one I have was originally purchased at a Best Buy in January.

 

There's some info here about your panel.
http://www.panelook.com/LP156WF6-SPK3_LG Display_15.6_LCM_overview_28147.html

 

Ahh yes that was one of the few sites I came across with some info in English. That helped confirm it as an IPS panel. When I got the laptop and reviewed the screen I thought "wow this is the TN panel everyone complains about? Not bad at all..." only later to confirm, it was not, which I was pretty pleased with.

 

So just finished my 4K upgrade, here is the cable that you need for the upgrade.


The "K" in the model number is half covered, but this is a 40 to 40 cable out of a 6RF. My machine is a 7RE, I will put up screen shots tomorrow.
The full model of the cable is K1N-3040055-H39

This is the screen I am now using.

Haven't had any issues with the screen at all, but I only just got the new screen installed today, so I will keep everyone up to date.

 

I am also looking at the BestBuy model, just about to purchase it actually...can anyone recommend a good 2K (1440p) screen for future replacement? I am not interested in going 4k but will be using the laptop in the sun a bit as my work environment has more natural lighting (huge windows)

Also I wonder if someone who owns this model can also look and confirm that the Thunderbolt port is 4 full lanes and not just 2? ...two lanes would be the deal breaker for me. I like the laptop very much and the shortcomings can be overcome easily imo but I am having a heck of a time deciding between the GS63vr-252 and the new Gigabyte Aero15.

thanks

 

I'm in the same process right now. In fact I ordered the same screen the AUO. I was wondering what tape did you use to reinstall the bezel?

 

I just brought home my gs63vr, I bought it because reviews for MSI laptops are generally great to excellent but now I'm seeing all these things that the best buy version of this unit may have an inferior screen etc.(?) This is disconcerting to say the least, you'd think that sort of thing would be quite a blow to MSI reputation on their gaming laptops if that's true. I took a screen snip so that someone more knowledgeable than myself can help me identify the screen on my laptop, I am still within the time period that I can return this laptop but I can't figure out how to attach it (do I need a photobucket or something?).

I really don't want to return it I'm in love with it so far but if I've been screwed I am certainly not going to allow bestbuy to keep 1,500.00 of my hard earned sweat and tears for an inferior version of the product. Personally I think the screen is great at least going by the somewhat older samsung monitor I have on my desktop. I see both LGD046F and CMN15DG in the properties for the monitor so do I have one of the crappy screens? I think I have read that there is a 4K screen version? I don't really care much about that especially with the thunderbolt features for a future flat panel tv purchase but I would like to know exactly what screen I've got here before it's too late to return it without a restock fee. I have been building desktops for years so I know more than your average bear about this sort of thing but this is my first gaming laptop and i want to go raise hell if I've been handed a red herring here.

 

How do I look and see which panel is in my Stealth Pro 252? it simply shows generic PnP monitor, with a 2006 windows driver.

 

For instance with HWiNFO, AIDA64 etc. etc.

 

go to device manager, then monitor and you should see several tabs where it says generic .... blah blah. Under the "Events" tab you should see several lines of text in the lower "information" window. You may see something with letters and numbers such as LGD046F or CMN15DG that "should" be the information you want but the next bit of fun is figuring out what panel that information belongs too. I imagine a google search may turn it up or post in a forum specific to your model maybe someone can direct you.

 

Thank you both. I've got it now. Now I have to find out if I need to update the driver and if there is a benefit to do so.