MSI GT627 (1651), works with FX 3700m (full clocks).

ARGH! The screws in my heatsink are too large to fit into the backplate on the card! Anyone know where I can find some smaller heatsinks screws?

 

for backplates i went to homedepot brought the heatsink with me and found washers to fit nicely with them and then i used thermal double sided tape to put the washers on back of the card so the heatsink is nice and secure worked wonders for me with my gx620 with the 4850. only cost me $5 for both the double sided tape and washers if i remember correctly.

 

I've got some backplates too. Theyre exactly the same as what it comes with but for bigger screws.

 

Any chance you would sell one?

 

I'm about to get a fx3700m. Does anyone knows how to determine if the 1651 will also take a c2q?

 

The bios has support for quad core CPUs.

The only problem is the motherboard, might not work depending on the revision.

I also remember a post where someone tried a quad core and they could only get 2 of the cores working.

 

So buying one would be like playing russian roulette... Bummer.

 

Hey, did you guys change the powerbrick?
upgraded to a used 160m, still using the stock HS and psu.
Do I need to change the power brick to a 120W type?

Mine is pretty hot, with the 160m....(90W)

 

Mine came with a 120W brick, so I didn't change it (yet).

 

Thanks for the prompt response ,
160m, (60W) + P9500, (25W) = ,>90W, Think I should be fine too,
thanks.

 

Is the NVIDIA QUADRO FX 3700M 1GB MXM 2.1 Type III HE the right one for the GT627? Can just plug it with the original screws and make it work?

 

Yes, but you must use the backplate that came with your 9800m GS.

 

So you have had it for a while now.... what's your opinion in general? Does the notebook run hotter now? Is it stable? Problems with games? Do you recommend it? I can get a brand new one for 125€

 

It's a lot hotter, so I always use my notebook cooler when I play any games (in fact I even take the back cover off so that I max out at 75C).

Without a cooler I would get 85C-95C playing crysis and metro2033.

No problems with any games. Doesn't overclock well though. I can get 600/950/1500 stable with furmark, but wont get through a full 3dmark run with those clocks. I would suggest keeping the mem at 900mhz (that's what the chips are rated for).

I bet you can sell your 9800m GS for a decent price, so the upgrade will be pretty cheap.

Seems my battery life did go down a bit.

Brand new for 125€ seems like a good deal to me.

 

Thanks for all the information man!!
I always use my notebook cooler since it feels more confortable than having the laptop flat on the desk, so that wouldn't be a problem.
Selling the 9800 wasn't my idea, maybe is good to have a spare one, because I'm studying design abroad and I really NEED my computer everyday for any homework. I don't really care about battery life because I always plug it.
Then the real question is if I really need to upgrade... 90% games I've tried run smooth with everything maxed out, and my 3D software works great too. The difference can be when rendering with the gpu (new rendering mode that is coming with the latest software). Right now rendering with the cpu or gpu doesn't make a big difference, gpu is actually a bit slower though. With twice as many shaders I guess there should be a huge improvement....

Well now is up to me, thanks a lot for the help moral hazard

 

Hello everyone

I am using the MSI-GT628
GTS160M = 9800MGTS rev.2

and the QX9200 @ 2.9GHZ + GTS160M @ 700/2000/1800
got a 3DMark06 score of 13627

If i change it to FX3700 (GTX 280M)

It should'nt get such high clocks

Core 550/Mem1600/SP1375

According to moral hazard
the max overclocking for FX3700 is
Core 571/Mem1888/SP1427

and the 3DMark06 score and the gaming performance will be lower than GTS160M (oc)?

gaming stable for 13627
max for 14200

Lower or higher performance if I change GTS160M to GTX 280M ?

 

Can you run 3dmark vantage?

Here are my vantage scores:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...e-sp9400-cpu-score-24451-bug.html#post6581080

I think 06 might be inflated by your fast quad core.

 

I ran Lost Plant2 bench 1440x900 all Max w/o MSAA at B level of 41.2 FPS£¬but it sucks while running Split Second£¬only 21fps£¬how much improvement upgrade from 160 to 3700£¿

 

GPU came to 95C+ when play GTA4LC after replacing GTS160M to FX3700M

auto shut down again and again

The 1651's heatsink is too week

default 550/800
comparing to the high clock GTS160M
GTA4 fps just only 3-5fps increase

 

Are you using a notebook cooler?

Because without a cooler my GPU got to 95C (playing crysis and metro 2033) but with a cooler and my back cover off my temps are mostly around 75C (right now it's summer and it can get to 85C).
But my cooler has just one fan and it spins slow, with a better cooler you could get some really good temps.

I agree that the 160m is a good card, I couldn't really tell a difference between my 9800m GS and the 3700m.

 

thank you all the time sir...can you share your BIOS file,which is best for gaming for FX3700M

 

The latest HP vbios was better than the stock one I had for overclocking:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...ebook-8730w-owners-lounge-71.html#post5940044

I could never get the 280m vbios to work with stock clocks (did work if I underclocked to 383/303). I gave up on it for now...

 

has anyone a clevo or lenovo vbios for the 3700m?
i do not need any hp or selfmodded vbios, because the clevo vbios
has special header.sry for my bad english

 

No one has the Clevo BIOS. There was a Clevo card for sale recently... I will attempt to contact the person who bought it...

I almost bought it just to get the clevo bios you ask for. Are you having the same issue, only showing video on external desktop monitor?

 

ähm no.all is working fine.my problem is the fan controlling.it seems that its only automaticly controlled if the vcard is recognized in bios corectly.my fx3700 is listed under vcard as unknown.(bios 1.02.17 m860tu).thx for helping me

 

I have m860tu too. Do you have an HP or Lenovo card? vcard is also unknown for me but fan control is OK.
The 3700m is not supported by the m860tu that is why it says 'unknown' even with the clevo 3700m (which is from a d900c) but the HP and Lenovo cards usually have OK fan control.

I have a problem where I get stuck in silent mode, but it is not vcard related. I can fix it by going into standby and coming out again.

Does your computer shut off when the card reaches 80c? I did hear of a similar problem. I think you should first try updating the VBIOS to another Lenovo version. Then try updating your system BIOS. I think if neither of those work, you have an ES card or something and its bad, you should return it.

 

i do not know if it is hp or something like that.i could only post the original vbios version if interessted.i think the bios is up to date 1.02.17 or is there any newer version?the vcard runs with no problems.3 cycles 3dmark.all seems fine.the shutofftemp. you mentioned is set in vbios.the only thing i want is a quite system in low level load.have you got any bios from lenevo or clevo for this card or other bios i can try?thx for help

 

Yes, you can look through the pages of this thread and I have attached a lenovo and HP vbios.

Can you upload your VBIOS? I am interested to see it.

 

where are these vbioses?i've tried 62.92.6E.00.10 62.92.51.00.05
62.92.3B.00.00 (original).

 

The first one 62.92.6E.00.10 is the newest HP vbios. The other 2 you listed sound like Lenovo.
Here are 2 vbios, the HP one is the first one you have already tried. The other is a different Lenovo bios 62.92.4E.00.08
http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/msi/58134d1289535428-gx720-video-upgrade-3700mroms.zip

 

aarrrrggghhh the lenovo bios dosn't help.i thought hear was i guy with a 3700m
62.92.5c or something like that.has he uploaded that vbios?i can upload my original bios if you're stil interested.thx for help

 

*here* sorry for my bad english

 

I wonder if you could flash the vbios from the 280m onto your 3700m?

 

i figured out(hope this is the right word) that i got an ES.there is a litte tiny sticker on it,hard to read.NOT FOR EMC TESTING.after a hard stresstest system shots down as you mentioned.so i need an other fx3700...f*ck.why does this happen to me?

 

If you upload your vbios, I might be able to stop it shutting down for you.

 

if you think you can stop that crapy card from shutting down with nibitor you'll fail.setting the shutdown temperature to 120°C for instants doesn't help.(i know this is to high for this card, it was only a try).if you are a real hardcoder with hex or something like that, i will try one of your modded bioses.if not, it doesn't matter.i think my fan controlling problem is caused by ES.

 

The 280m is supported by your notebook right?

So if you flash the 280m vbios onto your 3700m, the bios should not list it as "unknown" and you may get your fan to act normal.

A few of us have tried it:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...rds/510622-wanted-gtx-280m-mxm-2-1-vbios.html

 

I think that if the latest HP and the other Lenovo BIOS didn't fix it then neither will the 280m BIOS. Also I tried it on my Lenovo card and it didn't work, but who knows.

I just got a new Lenovo 3700m, its a little different, the BIOS sticker says 62.92.5C.00.05.
I will save that BIOS and upload it once I test the card, also I'll try flashing it to the 280m.

 

yeah do that and post the link.i think fan controlling is realized via resistors on ES.their is no chance to controll throu vbios.same problem with temperature

 

OK off topic for a second.
moral hazard, I know you were looking for a new motherboard... I found this:
MSI LAPTOP BAREBONE MS-1651-ID2 DC2 15.4" WXGA 2MP CAM - eBay (item 200566714509 end time Jan-28-11 02:52:57 PST)
Pretty good price.

BTW, the pink screen thing happened on my gx630. I think I flexed the chassis too much.

 

That's a good idea, would get me all the parts I want so I could make my notebook look new again, I might sent him a message to see if he would ship to australia.

I'm really starting to hate that pink screen thing.

 

today my other fx3700 arrived.i have compared this two cards and uploaded some pictures for you.the left card is the engineering sample i got for two weeks and the right is the oem with original lenovo vbios.the oem card got a correct fan controlling and reaches temps of 85°C in my m860tu.the ES touchs only the 80°C and system is switching off after 3 loops of 3dmark06.if i unsolder the wire with the resistor the fan is running a little bit lower but switches off earlier.in both case the fan is not controlled correctly.if you want to see the differenz between OEM and ES just download the jpg pictures i have taken.
http://rapidshare.com/files/443746122/DSC00594.JPG
http://rapidshare.com/files/443746187/DSC00596.JPG
they have not a such goog quality but are ok to show you the differenz.i hope you can read and understand my crapy english^^. ps: please post your latest lenovo bios.i will try out on ES.

 

thats interesting.

here is the newer lenovo vbios:

 

i know^^.that is the reason why i have posted these pics.thank you for the vbios.i will try it on my oem and es.but i think there is no chance to get the es working probably.ps : both chips on pcb's are real g92.the ES is no fake!but useless^^

 

Well I fixed my pink/green screen problem today

I got out my soldering iron and just went over all of the small components near the LCD cable connector and I also went over the pins of that LCD cable connector. Now it works perfectly, I didn't really expect this to fix it but now I'm really happy that I don't have to get a new motherboard.

 

Do you guys know if the NVIDIA GTX 260M 1GB GDDR3 - MXM 2.1 TYPE III is compatible withthe GT627? Isn't MXM 2.1 III the FX3700m as well?

 

Yes it's the right socket, will probably work (not 100% sure if it will run at normal clocks or if it will throttle).
It's a nice GPU, but the price is high.

 

So, basically any MXM 2.1 III should fit? Obviously we can not swap a 100W card, but that one is 75W, just like the 9800GTS. There's an auction for one GTX260m on the Italian ebay, price starts at 1€, 9 days to go...
I just ordered my SSD and I'm not that interested in upgrading the gpu, but damn, if that thing comes up cheap, would be tempting

 

I think any mxm 2.1 type III/HE card would work. If it's an ATI card you need to mod the heatsink a bit (cut one bit off).

 

yes your right moral.gtx 260 and fx3700 are both mxm 2.1 HE. MXM technical before 3.0 check this out.