MSI GT70 2OD Haswell CPU @ 80C at full load, GPU @ 'around 80C' full load. Would you take this laptop?

I have RMA'd my GT70 2OD and asked the retailer to test the replacement for temps (and other stuff) before sending it out to me.

He reports:

So far after testing the CPU the temps are 80c under full load.

Graphics card is running around 80c also that is with doing the heaven benchmark under full load

Would any of you be happy with these temps from a brand new laptop?

 

Look fine to me, ask them if they used the turbo fan feature (or whatever it's called) when they tested it.

 

Why then are so many reviewers (Anandtech excepted) and forum members alike, posting max temps as low as 60Cs and maxing out in 70Cs?

Are they simply rigging the numbers (aka lying)?

If not, then surely having a laptop where the temps hit 80C, when other similar models hit only 60C, would mean the 80C laptop was a bad version to have of that laptop?

 

While 80c is within acceptable range for the CPU and GPU, if the review models are getting lower, it makes it sound like your unit had a very poor thermal paste job as the likely culprit. I've seen where a good thermal paste job could get 10-15c lower temps over a sloppy one.

 

yeah...problem with that is my laptop comes with Warranty Voided stickers, so I cant get inside the thing to do a proper job.

The laptop that I sent back was hitting 92C on the GPU......just learned that it wouldnt go higher than that as it throttles itself at that temp point.

I had just told OcUK to refund me, and was going to go with the Ivybridge GTX680 GT70 model instead. On the strength of IKAS V's comments however, I changed my mind (again) at the last minute and am getting a replacement GT70 2OD sent out.....

I am really bad at making decisions.......hope I havent made (another) bad one here.

 

Don't let my views change your decision, it was just a question.
I know it can be a pain in the but try the new unit first and if you think temps are still to high you can return it anyway, you did pick this model for a reason, give it a chance to redeem itself.
If your still not happy then just send it in for a refund. Hope that helps.
Good luck bro!

 

Who says that they're maxing out at 60c? I've seen multiple people say 80c and 90c.

The only time I've seen 60c is when people are talking about a run of 3dmark or something, which doesn't stress the computer very much.

 

Says who? Have you called MSI on this issue? I had the same sticker on my unit. I called up MSI tech support, spoke with a tech, and was informed that it would not void my warranty. How else could you change SSD/HDs or memory? He said as long as you don't break anything my warranty would be honored. Call them up and talk to them, or send them an email. Then if anything did happen you could provide proof they said it wouldn't void your warranty.

 

I have told him that many times, that he can break the warranty stickers. He just doesn`t want to listen and learn.

 

As long as it remains well below T-junction temp, you've got nothing to worry about.

And 80c at full load is perfectly fine.

 

I have no seen any reviews of any full load saying 60 or anything like that. I normally see 80s which is perfectly normal.

 

In fact you can ask them to repaste your laptop with IC compound, if they do customization. That would help. Stock units do come with a bad pasting job. But even with a bad pasting job, MSI still beats clevo as 177SM also has a 90 celsius under extrem conditions, not to mention 177SM has two fans and makes much louder noise. Max 60 celsius is quite unlikely to happen on a gaming laptop, I doubt any manufacturer can achieve that. Besides, do not worry about warranty.

 

Just ran 3dmark11 again. GPU OC of 135/400. CPU was OC to 3.4Ghz across all 4 cores ---but I forgot to bump up Watt and I got a lower physics score because of it. This was with turbo fan ON. With turbo fan on, and proper paste job, this system does not get that hot.

I also have my laptop on a Zalman NC2000. I really doubt this makes a very large difference though. I will remove it and test later without and see. My guess is 2-3C tops.

 

It seems you are getting decent temperatures. Is it a stock unit? Have you repasted it?

 

Stock unit. I repasted with ICD. And still have stock pads. Without turbo fan on it can run up to 5-10C hotter. My temps vary daily. But usually only about 3-4C due to ambient temp changes.

But if you run this thing in BF3 on max settings and full servers she easily gets up to 80C CPU and 88-90C GPU. If it hits 92C on the GPU the system will auto downclock the GPU to stock clocks. Then reclock back up. It doesn't get noisy. Its choosing heat over noise. I use turbo fan when gaming though to prevent that. And usually am around 69-72C GPU, and 60s on CPU.

 

Sounds good. So you get 90C when overclocking, have you tested the temps when running BF3 on stock clocks? And I guess maybe a cooling pad could help to lower the temps.

 

Yes I get 90C GPU and 80sC CPU when OC and no turbo fan. Otherwise I get very cool temps with turbo fan on.

 

Removing that sticker would not void your warranty. Confirmed from MSI italy too
They also told me that they remove the stickers once a notebook comes in for repair and don't put them back. It's only a manufacturing process they carry on from GX660 times to keep unexperienced users from messing up their units
Also don't worry about temps. Silicon wafer is produced at higher temps and the only damage caused directly comes from higher than normal voltage. Most failures from high temperature come as a result of capacitors on the package failing first. The core can last longer

 

Well, 3d Mark sent my CPU to 82C and GPU to 91C.....after just one run.

It may not be a furmark level of stress test but having both CPU and GPU at around 100% utilisation seems like a stess test to me.

 

Stress test is not getting 100% utilization for a run of 3dmark, it's using hours of 100% utilization with games etc. Even furmark is not representative because it taxes the system far more than games themselves. With 680m Furmark would reach 93 degrees and throttle, but no game even with 100% utilization ever reached over 82C of temps. The same happend with desktop Kepler if I remember correctly.

anyways, did you get yours fixed yet? More than temps, you said you had artifacts and that needs to be checked out. Make sure your reseller gets that verified. 80 temps for max load is very good, but not for a quick run of any software.

 

Which is still perfectly fine. If you are that worried, just return it, but I know those temp won't cause me any issues.

 

it's fine under stress test my friend, if it's overheating the system would BSOD or shut itself off to protect the GPU already.

 

Maxing out at 60°C isn't possible unless you put some azot stuff or whatever.

The normal T°C seem to be around 85-90°C (correct me if i'm wrong, i'm just repeating what I read on several topics) for the CPU and the GPU... (no cooler booster 2)