MSI GT72 970M to 1060 Cannot be done Said MSI Edition

In theese times this is a guess we may slowly consider, Since
the behaviour of the modding / tuning / OCing and hardware hacking
community grows larger and because of this we may put some of their Profit at risk.

Also i strongly assume that NVidia (evil) wants to grant more supremacy for themselfes
and other manufacturers may also do this step in order to bind the people / customer
more to their brand or product.

This is also happenintg with Windows 10 / MS for example or as another example
Gamedevelopers that are forcing you to be online while playing SP, since this
became more common since Battlefield 3 times in the game industry.

But i think this is too early for that. In your case i think it is more likely that
it is just a compatibility issue, but i may be wrong.

 

Update. The card does work in UEFI with CSM mode with an external monitor connected through HDMI. That's something.

 

I have the gsync version. However I don't have an external gsync monitor to test with due to space constraints I have only enough room for the laptop and mice. Gsync is only disabled after the upgrade due to the gsync cookie not matching the device i.e of the new GPU and it's the same with the driver. For example my vbios reports 10DE 1C60 11FF 1462, now the same card is device is used in the GT72VR but the device ID 10DE 1C60 11AF 1462. Now my understanding is the base model uses the same 60hz on the non 120hz screen version which means something is changing the 11FF to 11AF or it's a DSDT edit in the main system bios. My card is version 1.0 so MSI might have done something to the vBios header on the new 1.2 version to make it not boot on anything other then the VR version of the laptop as I have noticed they recently had a bios update of late and I wouldn't be surprised if MSI did this because of us modders able to get the card working in our system. MSI should of embraced the fact that the cards worked and with a new bios update with the new gsync cookie etc made the upgrade kits and said sorry because their RnD team was wrong. But no this will not happen. As for the crashing issues on the GTX1070 in GT72VR GT73VR systems and MSI locking the clocks it might be hardware design of the mainboard other then the GPU because I am yet to see someone with a GT72(s) with a GTX1070 reporting the same issue. Which means RnD team is very sloppy in their work, remember this is just my opinion.

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A collegue of mines bought a dremel + disks, yet they will arrive monday.

 

Card installed. Works like charm, will repaste with IC diamond. I don't like the 73° in charge.

 

Tell us more about the card revision, bios version and so on pls.

 

See the GPU-Z Screenshot for info about the BIOS. It's the A1 Revision. Works like charm with UEFI+CSM Mode. (Artifacts on full UEFI mode, didnt test the Legacy boot).

 

[Cita = "sasuke256, de la publicación: 10542187, miembro de: 235723"] Ver la GPU-Z Captura de información Sobre el BIOS. Es La Revisión A1. Funciona Como el encanto con UEFI Modo CSM +. (Artefactos en Modo UEFI completo, aún no ha prueban la bota Legacy). [/ QUOTE]

¿Me podría enviar una foto de las modificaciones que hizo? Paso a paso, por favor

 

what ?

 

Enzo reply translates to "Could you send me a photo of the modifications you made? Step by step please"

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where is the screenshot?

 

I bet Google translated this for him before he even clicked the thread / site.
Yea, a guide would be nice to finalize the thread.

 

Main post usually we add info to the main post and not in the Xth page

 

Sorry my english is not very good

I saw the photos in the first post and I have questions xD

Did you use heatsink the factory?
What modification did heatsink?
And what thermal pad do I use?

 

modded heatsink
modded driver
Thermal pads are sent with the card.
I dont like temps for now..

 

How much are temps? why bad? full spinning fan

Any 3D Benchmark?

 

idle temps (60° @ 1405Mhz always) are high since card doesnt idle freq for now.. I will clean Install Ngreedia's driver to see and put power settings on adaptive.

 

Here msi 1060 @ stock clocks, adaptive and vsync on, 24°c ambient temp., with 50min. of Prey running.. spikes at 92w (94.198w in other run) instead maximum of 83/86w in 3dMarks suites

Very demanding game, tax a lot both gpu and cpu

I think Vsync was not active because here the right temps and clock





Now 1060 max-out at 58W and 65° at 25°amb.temp. on auto controlled fan

 

Will test prey and tell you. After reboot it finally idles at 139Mhz
45° ish' idle temps are cool with 30° ambient !

 

Maximum performance in NVidia driver settings may prevent it to
clock down. If you set optimal it will always clock down to 139mhz.

 

Does Adaptive work? I always had particular performance issues with "optimal" settings.

 

Well, it worked on my stock GT62VR.

 

Hey @sasuke256 seems I've a different bios never seen online!!

 

EDITED: Right looked it UP that is a MSI MXM Card but must be in a DELL system my guess is an R4?

 

works for me.. clocks up and down when needed..

 

First post contains GPU-Z screenshot..

 

@sasuke256 do you get vibrating screen with that vbios on MSI splash screen on boot?

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You must use UEFI + CSM mode, UEFI only make the screen flicker..

 

I tried that Vbios myself in my 6QD UEFI + CSM = Blank screen and i had to use just UEFI mode to get the screen to work. I had the same issue you discribed however i when back on to the back vbios i had no more vibration issues.

 

Well your vBIOS seems to make the problem go away ! Good !

 

If you need a copy of the VBios I have that work with our cards let me know, remember though I am not liable for any issues.

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update : FireStrike

 

Not a bad score on firestrike bud. Will run stock clocks in mine to compare.

Edit: Just done a stock run of firemark on my system here is the results

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/20986446

 

DDR4+ faster CPU seems to help ^^

 

Not really as a DDR3 Ivy system beat my score out right on the CPU side for some reason.

 

which ivy which frequency & what amount of ram at which clocks.

 

Look at this: http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13096008/fs/11429442/fs/12555132/fs/12820620

 

There are all extreme and OC'd cpu's + OC'd gpus .
Bad examples

 

@sasuke256 how's your system doing? Have you over clocked yet. +300 men seems to be a sweet spot and +135 on core also. I can hit +165 on core but some games crash.

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works fine @stock, didnt Oc since i don't need more power for now..

 

Good Job!!!! MSI sucks!!!!

 

[QUOTE = " @sasuke256, post: 10594471, member: 235723"
Hi, I'm sorry for the inconvenience, I'm from Argentina and I use a translator, and I installed my gtx 1060 and I'm already on windows, I've run out of several drivers but I can not install them, I get an error, I'd like to ask if you can upload the drivers that you use to install them

 

Have you tried this package?
https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/105037

 

Or the user could try J95's drivers

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-geforce-drivers-387-92-whql.809702/#post-10613648

 

Just to let everyone know my laptop is still breathing getting some nice scores on 3Dmark 10,501 on fire strike and 4,066 on timespy so if you can TDP unlock your GPU there is a tool on this forum to do so. It will require another laptop and a hardware programmer but its worth it. Make sure you do 3 vbios dumps and compare them first before modding.

Benchmarks:

TimeSpy: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/2692208
FireStrike: https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14079509
SkyDiver: https://www.3dmark.com/sd/4876530


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Here are pics of our standard size 82x105mm GTX 1070 and GTX 1060 MXM3 based GPUs that work in most of laptops with MXM 3.0b slots. In order to run GTX 10 series you need to have either Optimus based laptop or eDP LCD panel.

 

@sasuke256 Hows your GTX 1060 doing? Any new benchmarks??

Just done a pass on FS : https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14188921 totally unstable but completed the test at 10,657.