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    MSI GT73VR 7700HQ or 7820K?

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Sakr3d, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. Sakr3d

    Sakr3d Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I'm trying to decide between these two:

    http://www.hidevolution.com/msi-gt73vr-titan-pro-hid1.html
    http://www.hidevolution.com/msi-gt73vr-titan-pro-866.html

    By adding the things I want (500GB 960 EVO on slot 1, 500GB 850 EVO on slot 2, 32GB RAM, TG repasting and fujiploy pads and I'll be replacing the 2.5 drive with an 840 Pro I have) the costs are around $2.9K vs 3.4K. I'd personally like to stay under 3K.

    My question's are:
    Can the 7700HQ handle the GTX1080 without throttling?
    Or am I better off getting the 7820K, eventhough I have no intentions of overclocking...ever, and just buying the slot 2 drive later on when I have the money?
     
  2. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    The 7700HQ is already throttled.
    3.4 ghz on all cores MAXIMUM (3.8 ghz on single core) and UNAVOIDABLE TDP of 45W !!!!!!!!!!
    It can exceed 1.5x TDP For 28 seconds before being locked down hard to 45W.

    7820HK can be pushed as far as the silicon allows, but the silicon quality is still trash compared to 7700K LGA Processors (7820HK are failed bins of non K 7700).
    Extremely good samples can game stable at 4.8 ghz (might require a lot of voltage, and liquid metal thermal compound AND unlocked Bios for preventing overheating), cinebench at 4.9 ghz and SuperPi at 5 ghz.

    That being said, why are you choosing a GT73VR over a GT75VR? The GT75 is better in every way.
    1) per key full RGB keyboard (GT73VR Is 3 zones only)
    2) better monitor (newer revision of the 120hz panel=3ms instead of 5ms, less overdrive streaking)
    3) some extra chip for the network controller.

    It's not worth it for existing users of GT73VR 7RE/7RF to upgrade to GT75VR because the CPU is still the exact same 7820HK--GT73VR users should be looking at the 6 core LGA processors (or wait for castrated HK versions). But there is absolutely NO reason to buy a GT73VR when the GT75VR exists.
     
  3. zipperi

    zipperi Notebook Deity

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    Price, at least here! (diff $1050!) + availability. Ordered GT73VR 7RF.
     
  4. Sakr3d

    Sakr3d Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm buying it because that's what I could afford, I don't want a mechanical keyboard and I planned on upgrading wireless NIC through HID. Yes, having a 3ms screen would be great, the 75 is out of my dollar range for what I'd like to be in it.
     
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  5. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    It's not fully mechanical. It's more of a short throw chiclet type key, but full RGB. Much better.
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    With that said, I'd get the 7820HK personally. So what if you don't plan to overclock although 4.1 GHz is a very safe and stable overclock, but the fact that the 7820HK is clocked higher at stock speeds AND doesn't throttle is a major win. CPU intensive games would perform much better with the 7820HK. Heck I'd take a 6820HK from last gen vs the 7700HQ personally.

    Also don't forget to email [email protected] to get your NBR Forum discount.
     
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  7. Sakr3d

    Sakr3d Notebook Enthusiast

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    That's what I was expecting to hear. I just wanted confirmation. Thanks Phoenix. I'm trying to be smart....like Phoenix. :)

    Now to pass the PMP so I can order this beast.
     
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    thattechgirl_viv Company Representative

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    I'm actually working on upgrading to the GT75VR very soon. I'd say, even if you don't want to OC your CPU, get the 7820HK for the breathing room. If you do any gaming, you'd appreciate the performance.
     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    7820HK is better, so if money is an issue, I would recommend dropping a bit your configuration to something manageable on your budged, and then expand the machine later on. Adding SSDs/RAM is hardly an issue on this machine, and maybe you can buy those expensive add ons for cheaper elsewhere.

    Since most of the changes are SSDs and RAM, I'd say just get the base configuration and buy the SSDs later. Of get only the Bootable SSD if you must.

    But that's just me :)
     
  10. Sakr3d

    Sakr3d Notebook Enthusiast

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    I will be going this route. I already have a 500GB Samsung Pro SSD that I'll use for games and all my music already exists on a 1TB external drive. So I can wait and purchase the additional SSDs/RAM at a later date. Thank you all for the feedback.