MSI GT780 Hands on (another 6 months to a yr)

. Why are they going backwards? If any thing they should have up the memory to 2GB. I'm just hoping that Asus is making there own cards like the 5870 in the JH and this wont be the card slapped in every other laptop.

 

The 128-bit bus is hard set into the GPU die by Nvidia, not by ASUS. A notebook manaufacturer could put 8Gigs of memory on the card and it wouldn't change that bus-width.

 

Ok. Makes sense. I'm only guessing that Nvidia and ATI will do this to there cards to keep sells of there High end cards like the 485m and the 6970 since the sandy bridge chips are helping with crazy performance on lower end cards they dont want to lose the sells of there top tier cards that the gamer wants.

 

Interesting, on the pic of notebookcheck it is shown that the card's codename is N12E-GS-A1. N12E = GF106 core | GS = GTS version | A1 = revision. The GTX versions come with GE, not GS. So this won't be GTX 560M, but GT S 560M.

 

Hello! Newcomer here. I've been going around trying to get as much info on the GT780 after my GT680 order was canceled on me (though I think it was a blessing in disguise since I didn't hear about it's better brother at that time). I couldn't help but keep reading all this misinformation from site to site that keeps getting around, mainly because I couldn't stand it if after all this time (and the waiting time to still come) that the GT780 would get an nVidia dud (as far as gaming goes).

This is the video from a couple posts back: MSI GT780R Gaming Notebook - Cebit 2011
The little GT780 spec tag says "GTX series" on it, but the nVidia CP info shows something else, a GT 555m (hence the 128-bit). Put the video into HD and the text will be clear enough to make out (around the 20-22 second mark).

THIS video is from Cebit as well, but showcases the GX780R. Coincidently, there's a spec tag next to this one as well that says "GT 555m" on it (from 0:22 to 0:43): MSI GX780R High Eng Gaming Notebook Hands On at Cebit 2011

I think someone messed up when posting videos of these twin 780's.
Good news: GT780 has a GTX 500m card!
Bad news: We have no idea which 500m nor what its specs are nor when it's coming out.

 

GTX 460M was the N11E-GS. N12E started first with the GT 555M, but then also got used for the GTX 485M...which honestly should have been GTX 580M.

A1 typically is a revision tag, but it doesn't confirm that the GPU is still GF106, since Nvidia would have probably chosen to tag a GF116 as an entirely new GPU series instead of labeling it as a GF106-A2.

First off thanks for posting that second video. MSI can make mistakes on the spec tags but the more of them you see the more worrisome they get. If the GX780R drops AMD for an even lower class Nvidia GPU you definitely have to lose a little faith in them.


As for your comments on the first vid showing a GT 555M in the actual notebook, the problem that starts, is we know t he official specs of GT 555M from Nvidia.com and they don't match up with what's in the video.

GT 555M uses 192-bit GDDR3 at a memory clock of 900Mhz, and a GPU clock of 1180. The GPU in that GT780 is using 128-bit GDDR5 at a memory clock and GPU clock at what looks like around 1250Mhz.

So it might not be the GTX 560M in that GT780, but it's also no the GT 555M that we know, and it's not the same GPU that's in the ASUS G74.

 

Doesn't bother me none too much as I'm not an MSi fan/loyalist, though I will say dropping an equally powerful ATI GPU for a lesser nVidia GT GPU is a really odd move (from a profit-making POV). GPU wars = money.

That Asus N12E-GS-A1 made me think a lot. I did more reading and read that the GF116 is the same chip being used for the unreleased GT 550/530 (desktop), and is the successor to the GF106. The GT 550/530 is also said to be another rebranding of the GTS 450 (couldn't find a GT 450) and the GT 430, both of which have 128-bit buses. So it would seem that the GTX 560m is not a direct rebrand of the GTX 460m. In any case, I'm not liking where it's going. As for the special " MSi GT 555m", it might be a GTS 555m, since the previous chip it was based off of (GT 445m) seems to match up, if you use a 128-bit bus with GDDR5, but even then, the bandwidth shouldn't be that low (based on other cards using GDDR5 in 128-bit configs). Both the GT 555m and GT 445m are based off the GF106 chip, while the 550m is based off the GF108 and shouldn't be the culprit (unless they're enabling more cores).

For right now, since most notebooks with the 2nd gen i7's are still withheld or on backorder, we might as well just sit and wait to see what develops. After this, though, I think I'll take the GT680R as I can live with 720/900p resolution with some extras. I'm not playing anything new or that requires any latest-and-greatest GPU (like Crysis 2 & Metro 2033, though those are still playable on the GTX 460m if you don't use DX11 and stay around 720p).

I have to admit this was a bit fun. I haven't gone around digging (moderately) for information in a long time, though my answers are more speculation than fact. ._.

 

I think MSI should take the design of this laptop and put it in a smaller form factor. I'm liking it way more than previous offerings, and I don't think I'd ever get a 17" laptop.

 

I found this when goofing off online. You think they might do this?

The graphic part is however what differentiates MSI GT780R and GX780R. While the MSI GT780 is equipped with the new Geforce GT 555 m 1 Gb GDDR5 Nvidia, the MSI GX780 he enjoys the new Geforce GTX 560M GDDR5 firm to the chameleon. The latter part of his name will provide more performance but both should satisfy most players in practice.

 

Yeah, most probably they'll do it. ... and that means that I'll have to divert to Clevo/Sager ... to bad - I just liked MSI ...

 

whats the differance between gt780r and the gt780

 

Well dont bee trolling the GTX560M to much its a good card + i7 quad sb it should boost the performance like crazy and dont forget turbo boost and then you can clock your graphics chip.

One thing that the card will really like is grand theft auto 4 as that game eats vram .

 

Realistically, the 560M is no more impressive than the 460M.

 

whats the differance between gt780r and the gt780

 

oh my god, is it so hard to use google?

GT780 = 1 HDD
GT780R = 2 HDD

 

Can it really be as simple as you say?
However the only difference i have noticed thus far is the GPU.
MSI GT780R Gaming Laptop - GT780R
MSI Global ? News --GT780
They both support RAID, so its safe to say they both utilize 2 HDDS.
Possibly this source may be wrong. Would someone else care to give input on this?

 

Back with the GX660R and GX660, the main difference was the GX660R supported RAID out of the box. The GX660 needed to be flashed with the BIOS fro mthe GX660R in order to get BIOS, I think. Also, I think the Non-R version had a lower-resolution screen and came standard with a lesser CPU.

And impressive first post, Ford. Come on, try to be nicer, especially since your answer was wrong.

 

Forge is it safe to assume that will most likely be the difference between the 780 series as well?

 

gtx 560m i wish its a rebadged efficient cooler gtx 470m i think the gamers really deserve this speed bump

 

Safe? Dunno, I don't have all the info.

Quite possible? Yeah.

 

MSI GT660/GT660R: reviews and information

"Hard drive bays: 1 (GT660), 2 (GT660R)"

 

Did you not say this?