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    MSI Laptops Drivers

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. ravenrocha

    ravenrocha Notebook Geek

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    Filtering by XTU I found nothing. But there is a overclocking intel device drive (iocbios2.sys) in the autorun. Should I disable / uninstall that?
     
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    I don't know bro. I don't have XTU installed on my system, you could try.

    I highly suggest a clean install with the latest drivers from this thread minus the Dragon Center
     
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    Some of us just have a 7700HQ.
     
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    iocbios2.sys is part of the XTU Driver. Disable it in Autoruns and see if it make a difference after reboot. Delete it afterwards if everything work as expeted or let it be disabled. If you can see something with XTU naming in services... Disable there as well. Do this while you run default clocks and voltage. Not oc'd or with massive undervolt.
     
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  5. ravenrocha

    ravenrocha Notebook Geek

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    Hi @Papusan and @Phoenix,

    I did all of that and now I understand why that happens. It happens only when I press the button to change from Nvida card to Intel graphics and other way around. I do that sometimes to save battery and when I do that, the BIOS is "reseted" regarding OC. There is any way to get around this? To avoid loosing the OC settings in BIOS when I switch between the 2 graphic cards?

    THANKS again for all ur help!
     
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    Jnnybrv Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have installed a 128GB SSD(PCIE Gen3x4) and a 1TB(7200RPM)

    Can i buy a 250gb ssd(pcie) install it in the 2nd slot and be able to use it as storage space?

    If my windows is already installed on the 1st 128gb ssd do i end up have to re-image or reformat it?
     
  7. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    nope, you don't have to do anything, you can simply add the SSD and use it

    what I would do is change the drive letter of your 1TB HDD to E: and make the new SSD D:
     
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    nVIDIA GeForce Driver updated to v390.65
     
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    The release notes for 390.65 on page 15:

    Security Updates in this Release
    Table 2.1 Security Updates for NVIDIA Software Vulnerabilities
    CVE-2017-5753 1975134 Computer systems with microprocessors utilizing
    speculative execution and branch prediction may allow
    unauthorized disclosure of information to an attacker with
    local user access via a side-channel analysis.

    For more information on this issue, see the NVIDIA GPU
    security updates for speculative side channel Security
    Bulletin posted on the NVIDIA Product Security page
    https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4611/related/1

    CPU Vulnerabilities, Meltdown and Spectre, Kernel Page Table Isolation Patches, and more
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...patches-and-more.812424/page-39#post-10660828
     
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    nVIDIA GeForce Experience updated to v3.12.0.79
     
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    I had the same issue as the guy on page 59 a week or so ago, BIOS suddenly back to stock speeds. I changed it back to your settings and holding, but why recommend removing Intel XTU?

    The NBR guide I used to overclock my GT73VR w/ 7820hk said that the undervolt offset can't be done from BIOS (it just accepts positive values). So I set it to 100 in BIOS (overvolt), and then in XTU reverse that to -100
     
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    Well if you're on the stock BIOS, then you need XTU to undervolt since there is no way to set a negative value for the voltage offset. I'm not on the stock BIOS so I can do all my overclocking/undervolting in the BIOS and disable the Intel SGX (software guards extension) shenanigan in the BIOS.
     
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    Or just use ThrottleStop. A better choice.
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    No! [​IMG]

    ThrottleStop is the most complicated piece of software and the buggiest I've seen in my life. Issues like the icon not showing in the taskbar despite the process being running in task manager, not even a simple button to make it start automatically at startup so you have to manually create a task is so 1995 [​IMG]

    Oh, and it doesn't stop throttling as it claims. If there is an EC firmware limitation, then it can't stop CPU throttling so the whole point of using it is m00t :rolleyes:

    and it can't talk to the BIOS so all changes are done via software in the OS unlike XTU which can actually change the BIOS settings provided the XTU Interface option is enabled in the BIOS (but that is not available in the stock BIOS unfortunately)
     
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    1). Yoo can’t do much if yor laptops firmware is locked down as a 100 years old Virgin. Same way for XTU :rolleyes:
    FYI. Xtu or halfway/half baked unlocked Bios can’t fix BS PROCHOT limitations. Unlocked firmware ain’t fun if you see throttling a way sooner than Intel’s spec.

    2). Have seen icon flaw maybe one time. And I have used TS a hell long time. And with more than one version OS from M$ Morons.

    3). If you can’t create a scheduled task... TS ain’t for you (I’m sure you fix scheduled task, bruh :D). But read behind the lines.
     
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    oh I surely can create a task myself. Do I want to? Heck no. 90% of apps offer a simple start on Windows startup option/toggle. What's so difficult? It's not nuclear science.

    [​IMG]

    I have not the need for TS and MSI's EC Firmware xxxx.108 isn't crippled and has no throttling provided you up the VR Current limit to 100A :eek: :rolleyes:
     
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  17. Papusan

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    I don’t run MSI as you know, but have you tested how clocks hold when temp pass 90C and above? (push up clocks bruh and test). Earlier, or maybe also current Asus notebooks will throttle once you pass 83-85C. Have even seen other brand models throttle before 80C. Saved by TS.
    More than only Cpu temp can trigger throttling.
     
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    My taptop doesn't throttle even at 93C :eek:
     
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    Here we go, bruh. See if 4.5GHz from bios beats TS with same clocks. Put it further with 4.7GHz (should be same as walk in a park without being robbed due you use liquid metal :D). Remember I run those bench only for j00, bruh :vbthumbsup: So j00 can have a goal :hi:Easy fix as I use TS.

    45x
    [​IMG]

    47x
    [​IMG]
     
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    You are trying to compare apples to oranges :eek: :rolleyes:
     
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    More like Titan to Human.
     
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    Nope. Same IPC :D The difference (apples to oranges) will come with higher clocks. Not a big step up from 4.4 and up to 4.5GHz. Use same voltage and power limits :vbthumbsup:
     
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    Synaptics Tochpad Driver updated to v19.3.4.193
    Realtek ALC899 HD Audio Driver updated to v6.0.1.8302
     
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  24. Jnnybrv

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    current bios E17A1IMS.107 : 08/11/2016

    should i update to

    E17A1IMS.10C

    and then

    Intel ME FW Update Tool

    should i do the ec firmware and vbois first before the bios updates..

    i also own a laptop coolerfan do i need to run it under the laptop?
     
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  25. Djadit

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    Can i flash ec firmware gt73vr 7rf to ec firmware gt73evr 17A1EMS1.112?
     
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  26. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    @Papusan


    MSI is cooking something [​IMG], all the drivers pages for all taptops are down:

    [​IMG]

    See the beauty of buying from a proper taptop manufacturer rather than Clevo? :eek: :rolleyes:
     
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    Maybe affected by meltdown and spectre. Or upgrading their file servers to Ryzen 7 or TR or EPYC.
     
  28. Papusan

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    No need for more. I have a working taptop a Clevo :rolleyes: Btw. Evga Jokebook with 972cb score :eek: Time for more bench, bruh :D
     
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    Don't pour more fuel on Phoenix, he will go supernovae.
     
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    Scores will come :D MSI is cooking something. New firmware/software and he need try it :p
    [​IMG]
     
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    what is IMON offset?
     
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    Power management.
     
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    I believe MSI posted a scheduled maintenance schedule earlier so down time expected.
     
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    where can I find it and what value should I put there? :eek: Have you the knowledge? :eek: :D
     
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    Read!!
    Edit. I'm sure bro @Falkentyne have talked with you about MSI's screwed up firmware before...
     
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  36. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    yeah I got -6 CB points with that setting. Reverted back to stock IMON Offset @ 0 :rolleyes:
     
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    Makes the CPU report less power draw or more power draw than its using (negative or positive offset). Useless for us. Only useful for fully locked HQ processors or processors locked to cancer TDP or a restricted power limit like @Vistar Shook 's cancer 60W power limit on his 7820hk. Won't work if the Power limit is being enforced because of total system power limit being bypassed (like 230W) because EC will still see the total power draw and will cap the CPU to a bizarre power to bring it back to 45W TDP even though its reported wrong (like it may say 33W TDP throttle instead of 45W). All depends on the mighty EC and how locked down it is.
     
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    I wonder if HM175 chipset will deliver same performance as CM238 :rolleyes: Have you seen proper bench from it? I haven't.

    Edit.
    @Phoenix Have j00 seen these scores from AW Camp?
     
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    I have the CM238 Chips [​IMG]

    I have not the GT73 EVR :rolleyes: I have the VR which has the CM238 chip

    [​IMG]
     
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    From Dellbook with CM238 and 4.4GHz. Up the game, bruh. Skip open GL :vbthumbsup: Hope I can see you beat it when I wake up.
    [​IMG]
     
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    @Phoenix you able to answer my questions?
     
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    Well I beat it. At 4.7 ghz. Let's see Phoenix beat this? Since I know you'll pull out your 5.1 ghz run to beat us all ! Don't hate on my LM temps, bruh! I was using auto fans...trying to see if I could get WHEA correctable errors. Sure enough I eventually got one. So I changed from 1225mv, IA AC DC loadline=5, to IA AC DC loadline=10 and the correctable error went away (saw it in Event Log)

    cb1055.png
     
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    I have a BGA taptop not a desktop or DTR if you forgot :rolleyes:
     
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    So do I? I have the same device you have! it's because of your review why I bought mine in the first place! You forgot :( (BTW the pulling out 5.1 ghz was directed at NorwaySnowHamsterPuSan).
     
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    you don't have your laptop model/specs in your signature so I can't answer your question
     
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    msi gt73vr... 6re...

    answer to questions?

    please please please!!!! ill make you a sandwhich in the kitchen
     
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    I don't work for you buddy! there is something called "please" or try to be polite in your request. Go contact MSI to get answers to your questions.
     
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    That's better

    1) Install BIOS E17A1IMS.10C

    2) After the BIOS is installed, and you see the MSI Logo, immediately press and hold the power button for 5 seconds to do a forced shutdown, only do this after you see the MSI logo

    3) disconnect the power cable for 30 seconds

    4) reconnect the power cable

    5) turn on the taptop and enter BIOS again

    6) set your boot mode to AHCI or RAID depending on what you had before but don't change anything or do any overclocking yet

    7) Install the ME Firmware update, after you download it, extract it to your desktop, then simply double click on the batch file, don't right click and choose run as admin, it will fail

    8) After it's done, reboot

    9) now do the VBIOS update

    10) You don't need a cooling pad, this laptop has the best cooling amongst any laptop, period!

    [​IMG]

    Note: Everytime you download a file, right click on it, go to properties, then from the bottom right, if it says the file is blocked because it came from the internet, click the unblock tickbox and hit apply. Do this for every file you download otherwise the ZIP file and all the files within that zip will be extracted with a BLOCKED status and you may run into some serious issues.

    Note 2: I provided you with the instructions to the best of my knowledge and how I did things on my system, I am not responsible if you brick your machine, do this at your own risk
     
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    Is there a way to turn off the mousepad if a usb mouse is plugged in... i dont see anywhere in the settings to do this..
     
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    If you have the drivers installed, you can select "disable touchpad when external mouse is connected". Some drivers are missing this option.
    In some cases, this option will do nothing. This usually happens when you have other drivers which use a mouse emulation driver. Steelseries keyboard app has been known to install its own mouse driver for some reason. Razer has also been known to install stuff and have it active even when no mouse is even plugged in.

    If you have that problem where the touchpad doesn't get disabled even though you have the checkbox marked, go to device manager and check for hid devices that are installed that are mouse drivers, when NO MOUSE is actually inserted. One of them should be the synaptics touchpad. For any others, check the device properties or the extended device information and see what it belongs to. Then you can just 'disable' the driver by force, which then make the checkbox actually do something.

    If worse comes to worst, you can use FN+F3 to disable the touchpad. This may or may not require SCM to be installed, however.
     
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