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    MSI Launches GT627 Performance Notebook.

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Micaiah, Oct 29, 2008.

  1. Micaiah

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    http://www.techpowerup.com/75008/MSI_Launches_GT627_Performance_Notebook.html

    You know, I'm really starting to think the MSI-1651/GX620 is capable of using MXM III cards.
     
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    a little too underpowered for me :D
     
  3. masterbw

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    i want i want
     
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    Nice !!!! I like it. If it is priced like the ASUS 15.4 inch with the 9800M GS it will sell like hotcakes !!! God Bless :)
     
  5. make 7 up yours

    make 7 up yours Notebook Geek

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    THIS LAPTOP IS HOT!!!! Good thing I didn't purchase any previous MSI GX versions. I definitely want to be all over this.
     
  6. ralphfx

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    About the MXM:

    On the global MSI site they actually state the GX720 having MXM!!

    So I wouldn't be surprised if the GT627 is actually the GX620 with a different MXM card inside. In other words: it might be possible to upgrade to the 9800M GS when you own a GX620..

    But.. nobody will know for sure unless there is some confirmation from MSI themself or from retailers (for instance xoticpc)
     
  7. Micaiah

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    My thoughts exactly. I know the GX620/720 and their barebone counterparts are using MXM II 9600M GTs, so I'm curious if the mainboards in these machines uses MXM III slot, since the GT735 and now the GT627 are using MXM III cards.
     
  8. ralphfx

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    http://www.msimobile.com/nblist.aspx?series=GX720

    Here you can see the GX720 houses MXM III according to the MSI specs. Since this model ships with the 9600M GT (like the GX620 does), my thoughts:

    If the GX620 has MXM, it has to be MXMIII
     
  9. ralphfx

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    Different question:

    When will the GT627 be available in Europe?
     
  10. Tenspeed33

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    ok, so I'm having a dilemma here. Will this be out before the end of November? Because I need a notebook by then and I was set on the GT735, but is the performance difference worth the wait? I really don't know what to do.
    I suppose this might be priced higher and out of my budget so may not be able to get it anyway. Argh.
    Glad to here the gx6/720 can support MXMIII!
     
  11. cutterjohn

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    I did a quick look for pricing, and already considering that the GX720 (or is GT?) is a few hundred more than a GX620 or c. $1400, but has the same GPU I'd expect this one to exceed the 720s price by at least $100, likely more like 2 or 3 hundred though via retailers (or $1500 - 1800).

    Beyond that I checked all of the articles that I could find, and came up with exactly ZERO official pricing info. (I hate the MSI site.)

    I like that they kept the 15.4" screen, as even if they're a little large to be used on a notebook are still manageable while the 17"ers are just insane.

    (Waiting for my MS-1651 to be built by avadirect...)
     
  12. dalingrin

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    I really hope they make this available as a barebone.
     
  13. Tenspeed33

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    ok cutter, thanks for looking; I double checked and didn't even come up with a guess for price, so if your predictions are right, that's a way out from my budget, so I'm gunna stick with the GT735, however insane it might be! :p

    If it's that much then asus are onto a winner with the g50vt x1 if people don't mind a pretty rubbish resolution.
     
  14. sxusteven

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    That's really cool if the GX620/MSI-1651 supports MXMIII cards..
    Unfortunately, neither money nor need makes me want to try and upgrade >_<. I'm OK with the 9600 and would like the keep my wallet and battery life happy.

    For those who want top of the line performance, definitely something to try..
     
  15. masterbw

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    Normally 15.4" Lappy only supports MXM-II.
    I doubt MS-1651/GX620 have that kind of room for a MXM-III.
    But GT627 might had that consideration therefore the MXM-III is finally supported.
    I referred to the MXM upgrade website for the dimension of those cards, and my Compal doesn't even have that kind of room for a MXM-III.
     
  16. icon007

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    if you like msi, go for the 17in
     
  17. cutterjohn

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    I'm inclined to go with it's the same board as the GX620 but with a different GPU, as it saves dev & production costs plus they can use one board in at least two models. I also wouldn't be surprised in the 720 has the same board, as all of the specs are the same excepting for the screen, although the only ones thta would know for sure would be someone from MSI or one of the system builders or someone who owns/has access to both and compares the board IDs.

    As to my guess at pricing: no idea how accurate it is, as I neglected to consider that 17" screens ARE more expensive than 15.4" which leaves us with how will the cost of the GS9800 plus where MSI wants to position this notebook pricingwise put the final price... i.e. even if they could make it cheaper than the 720, they may not wish to do so as it has a superior GPU OTOH if they phase out the 9600M GT based notebooks across the line and replace them with the 9800s... i.e. maybe they got a VERY good deal on the 9800s...
     
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    Just read the GX620 manual and it says the 9600M GT is in fact a MXM II card module! :D

    That has to conclude the GX620 uses MXM. Only question remaining: is the slot MXM II or MXM III?
     
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    Even if the GX620 has room for a MXM-III card, what are you going to do with it? Is there somewhere you can buy MXM cards? (other than mxm-upgrade.com)
     
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    I have a question about the graphics card in this laptop. Is the nvidia geforce 9800M GS the same thing as the 9800 GTS or 9800 GT? Or is it a lesser version of those 2 cards?
     
  21. plasma.

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    Way weaker than the other 9800M series cards. It actually gets around 9700M GTS in games and benchmarks, check the asus forum.
     
  22. Shane@DARK.

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    Does anybody else find the statement "enormous 15.4" LCD" funny?

    And sorry, I don't know of any release date yet :(
     
  23. cutterjohn

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    No. I'd rather have had a 13.3" screen like the LG P310. 15.4" is quite LARGE to me, and 17" is just plain ridiculous for a notebook as it pretty much defeats the entire purpose.
     
  24. Hahutzy

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    What's with all these laptops and DDR2 RAM? Sigh...
     
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    DDR2 probably is abundantly available and cheap. The performance increase with DDR3 should not be that noticeable anyway.
     
  26. Hahutzy

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    I know I know, I was just hoping one of the manufacturers would up the ante and throw DDR3 in there.

    And also, DDR3 is more futureproof (DDR2 is capped to 4GB max I believe).
     
  27. ralphfx

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    Then get the M860TU or the M570TU from Clevo. But then again, it may not be worth your money. Those notebooks are designed for gaming, however when comparing the performance of the M860TU with the MSI GX620 I ordered (both with 9600M GT 512MB DDR3 VRAM and same specs besides the DDR3 1066/1333), it's not a difference worth €200-€300 (here in the Netherlands).

    To illustrate: MSI GX620 was €1100, same specs M860TU is €1400 (Xxodd)
     
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    I was strictly referring to budget high-end machines like Gateway FX, Asus G50VT, and MSI GT627
     
  29. ralphfx

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    Then all you can do is wait.. I decided not to wait anymore :D
     
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    wrong. DDr2 can go up to 8Gb and higher.
     
  31. Hahutzy

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    qaz333, can you back that up (as in, all DDR2 laptops can go over 4Gb)?
    Because if it's true, then that means I can settle with the current offerings, all thanks to you, lol.
     
  32. ralphfx

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    Seems the manual for the GT627 is also the same as for the GX620 and 1651. It's even named ...1651..pdf (see the MSI site)

    The GT627 looks more and more like the exact same barebone with a different video card.
     
  33. Micaiah

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    I think we're going to have to wait until MSI starts listing the BIOS and drivers for it. If the BIOS is the same as the GX620/MS-1651, then we know for sure it uses the same mainboard...and it has a MXM III slot. *Crosses Fingers*
     
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    If you look at the bios version for the gx620, it recieved an updated and now matches the same version and kb size as the one for the gt627 (1651-i)

    Release date: 2008-11-03

    Has anyone tried the update, and are any changes listed?

    The system control manager offered to the gx620 is also the same as the one for the gt627, and it is labeled "system control manager for GX620/PX600.
     
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    I'm still not sure how we'd go about replacing the cards. Maybe in the future when they're more widely available?
     
  39. Micaiah

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    The BIOS works fine. I don't see any changes, except for one in the Northbridge configuration. There is an option near the bottom, something about protecting audio/video paths? Something like that, I'll look into it later when the work hours are over.

    The flash process went seamlessly, but it seems like it did something weird to the PCI-Express system, because when I got back into Windows, it loaded the Standard VGA Controller driver instead of the nVidia one, and the taskbar notification stated that the PCI-Express Root Hub was successfully installed. Weird.
     
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    Shame that MSI doesn't have global warranty like Asus. I would buy one of this in the US to bring to Europe since they look way better.

    I'll have to get an Asus though.
     
  41. masterbw

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    Also GT627 is 7.1 channel compares to the GX620's 5.1 channel.
    But are the owners of MS-1651 not supposed to use the BIOS for GX620??
     
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    im using it just fine with the overclock function.
     
  43. masterbw

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    Actually MSI has Global Warranty, but I heard it's optional purchase.
     
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    I think this will be the notebook I get, given that the price and pre-configured specs are good (I may go the barebone route if it saves me money). I was considering the ASUS G50VT-A1, but I like the looks of this notebook better and I haven't heard of major problems with the MSI GX620 (which I believe this is based off of) unlike the ASUS G50 series.
     
  45. Vedya

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    ANy news on the 17inch model of this?
     
  46. cutterjohn

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    IIRC the 620 uses the Realtek ALC 888S which IS 7.1, as it's one of their newer sound support chips although I also see that they have an 889 now as well... (or maybe the 889 was 8.1 ... might be why they gave it a last digit of 9 ...)

    Desktop has an 850 which is also 7.1

    [EDIT]
    Went and looked on realtek's site and found:
    ALC888S 7.1+2 channel high definition audio codec with two independent s/pdif-out
    [/EDIT]
     
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    Hi all,

    I am a total newbie at these things but I'd just like to ask :-

    So does the msi GT627 supports MXMIII cards ???

    and is the graphic card in the GT627 upgradable ???

    Care to give a review of the laptop ...

    Thanks

    Falling Cat
     
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    when are we going to see this in the US market ?
     
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    anyone have any higher-res and zoomed in pictures of the laptop?

    it looks good but im unsure about the design and build quality.
     
  50. Tenspeed33

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    theres a german site with high res pictures, but im using a different computer so dont have it favourited. basically all of the GX620s and GT series are all the same build quality, but slightly bigger if its 17". ill post the link as soon as i can get to my home computer!
     
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