Msi gs70

Odd, my blade runs full power with or without AC power which I enjoy being able to do. I'm sure there's some way to force enable it to run full power.

Either way, as a Razer Blade owner I'm very excited to see this come out with seemingly very good remarks. Would definitely buy the $1900 version with free LG monitor and dual SSD + 1TB HDD if I wanted a 17" laptop. Now if they release a 14" version we can start talking

 

say it ain't so this is the reason i returned my y500 and my gs70 already shipped.

 

As far as I can tell gfx performance takes a massive hit if you unplug AC power, CPU performance doesnt take much of one.

I can't seem to get the NVidia drivers from their website to install, only the MSI drivers. Is MSI going to allow us to use NVidia drivers with this laptop?

 

IMO,not having obsolete hardware like an ODD is a good thing.

 

Indeed. Not having ODD is a good thing.

 

Thansk, Roger for the great review.

Could you please tell us if inside the box there was also the MSI backpack?

Thanks, Mihai

 

I ordered on Newegg last night and got in on the free LG monitor. Looks like that offer is gone already. I was about to pull the trigger on the Clevo W230ST but I was not comfortable with multi-monitor support.

Still curious in noise, battery life, and the LCD panel. 95% of my time with this laptop will be as my primary work machine replacing a Lenovo T420s that has been pretty solid.

 

Does the 17 inch make it a burden to carry or will i be just fine with it?(for college works)
And when will this hit retailers in malaysia?

 

17 inch is a burden. 15 inch is much better. 13/14 inch are ideal for schools in my subjective personal opinion.

I've seen kids with 17 inch for school and they always seem to break it due to its sheer size. Accidents tend to happen less with smaller sizes. And avoid flashy laptops for school. It could be an easy target for being stolen.

 

Yea its pretty light and very thin, but its pretty cumbersome still due to width and length.

It came with a sleeve that fits it nice, but its a very cheaply made sleeve. I think I will use it but I may go back to a casepro I ordered a few years ago for my XPS-17

Doing more testing, the GPU doesnt ever get over 75 deg C in any bench other than furmark. And even in furmark I couldnt get it over 85. Furmark is a pretty unrealistic test so I've kind of soured on it. The GPU never throttled that I saw in practice or benchmarking.

The CPU gets to 100 C but not over, and usually falls back to mid 90s under heavy load. It can throttle in benchmark but even when its throttling the speed is highm, always at least 2.6 GHZ even when all threads are running.

Using a Coolermaster slim X style cooler it lowered the temps about 5 C or so, keeping it down around the 95 C range and throttling goes away, even in extended benchmark mode.

but on a hard surface with no cooler it maintained a high clock as well, so the cooler isnt that necessary except maybe on a soft surface that might impede airflow from below.

I cant comment too much on battery life, I have it on High Performance profile and the GPU takes a BIG hit when you arent plugged in. In High performance battery mode the thing drains pretty fast, but so did my XPS-17. It seems to get about the same battery life as the old Dell. I would say the way I have it configured I would be out of juice in less than 90 mins just browsing the web, but I will have to test that more completely once I get done with the heat stressing and installing the software I need.

 

I like this Laptop, this is the closest Notebook that I have seen yet to what I am looking for. I never had a Macbook Pro and I would have purchased a Retina 17 inch display if they made those. Now this MSI company announces this Notebook I hope other vendors follow this type of model going forward, nice to see a 17.3 inch lightweight notebook with no DVD Drive (if that’s what others want that’s fine there are plenty of those notebooks out there).


I would like it even more if it had a Thunderbolt port (or at least an option for a Thunderbolt port) a retina type display but those things won’t keep me from buying this Notebook and I assume the display is good enough it is FULL HD.

Question 1 – I know this is a gaming Notebook but does anyone think there is anything wrong If someone purchased it who isn’t a gamer?

Question 2- I’m not that familiar with MSI Notebooks how is the quality? Support/Warranty?


Also, I understand the backlit keyboard is programmable correct? So I could make the backlit color a solid color? so here is Question 3 - How easy is it to program the backlit Keyboard it’s not like you have to be a computer programmer correct? Or is it software that you install to change the backlit keyboard colors?


I think if I get this Notebook I would order thru Gentech although I have never ordered a notebook from them. I have to find out more about that company although most of the reviews I read says they are a good company to purchase a notebook from.

they will have more options as far as SSD etc I just have to figure out now if I want to wait a little while ( for a possible update for holiday season?)

Not sure if it will be one for this since its August and this was just announced. I’m talking Internal update (newer SSD options, a new Haswell quad-core processor, and a different graphics card) I don’t expect physical changes to this that soon.

That’s all for now, Thanks for any help in advance

 

To answer notebook303's questions to the best of my ability:
1) A laptop is a laptop is a laptop. You pay a pretty penny extra for the GPU, so if you don't need it and only need a laptop for productivity purposes (school, office work, etc.), then I personally wouldn't get a gaming laptop.
2) Can't answer about their build quality, as I've never owned their laptops, but their warranty seems pretty good based on what I read. Do a quick Google search for the GS70's warranty and you'll find the entire thing. I believe you can also extend your warranty to three years, but I'm not entirely sure of that.
3) The keyboard is backlit and can be changed to a solid color or three colors with software that MSI provides.
4) GenTech is trustworthy, as I've read all over this forum.
5) Not sure if I understand this question completely, but I'm guessing you're asking about either different models in the future or upgrading the laptop specs. I don't know the answer to the former, but I think you can only upgrade the SSD/HDD and RAM. The GPU and CPU are soldered, so they cannot be upgraded.

Hope I helped!

@uzon or anyone who owns the laptop: Have you tried repasting the CPU for lower temperatures, or is it not possible? Thanks!

 

Does the GS70 have the new stepping of the HM87 chipset.

CPU-Z > Mainboard should show the chipset info

 

XoticPC released their videos. I didn't watch them yet, but I'm sure it's more in-depth.

MSI GS70- Full Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaLbVTs2B5k

MSI GS70 vs. Razer Blade Pro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U60h92GOxHc

 

WHat about the battery life? In the comments of the video the guys of Xotic pc said about 3-5 hours. But i don't think 5 hours is reasonable for a 6 cell battery.

 

More like 2-3 hours maximum. No way this thing lasts beyond 3 hours.

 

Hmm. Notice they don't talk about the weak battery, huge charger, plastic bezel around the screen, throttling/heat issues or the non-silent normal operation noise levels. Gentech PC weighed the GS70 in their video and it came out to be 5 pounds, 15 ounces which isn't even close to 5.73 pounds. The bias is strong with this one. Pity people will actually use this to decide which laptop to get when it's so incomplete and inaccurate.

 

5lbs 15oz is basically 6 pounds. Whom are you accusing of being biased?

Also, does anybody have any actual figures for battery life? w/hrs? Anything? All I can see is that it has 6 cells which is as useless as information gets.

 

The charger is huge? Then what is a real gaming laptop charger gonna be to you?

 

Seriously nobody seems to have a decent noise comparison with other machines of the same class. I hated the Macbook Pro purely down to noise

 

Thunderbolt was in consideration but unfortunately there are no rooms left in the unit for us to put in there.
Q1- In fact this is the first laptop we create to keep in mind there are customers out there that isn't a gamer but want a good looking and graphic powered notebook.
Q2- I will let the rest of this forum rank us in quality as I am bias, we have standard 2yr warranty in USA and 9AM-9PM EST tech support
Keyboard- yes you can change the color whicheverway you want, we have a software call KLM which is very easy to control

Hope you enjoy this laptop when you get it.

 

From Xotic

"Noise level = extremely low!

In our opinion, the MSI GT70 (MSI's flagship 17" gaming notebook) was slightly above average for noise since it had one main fan cooling the GPU and CPU, and that was a complaint some customers had. But the GS70 is very 'stealth' in it's noise level. In our opinion, it's fan noise level is lower than the ASUS G75, which again in our opinion, was about the lowest on the market when they first were released - hope this helps "

 

The battery life on this unit, as it is with most any gaming capable laptop isn't great. But this has a MUCH smaller battery and charger than my Dell XPS-17 1702x had, and a much faster GPU, and it still manages about the same battery life. It's under 6 lbs which is very light for a 17" laptop of any variety, and particularly light for a decent gaming laptop in the 17" class.

It gets hot, but its not very noisy compared to any other gaming laptop. It's quieter than most in that regard. The CPU despite getting hot never slowed down below 2.6GHZ for me, even with all threads running Prime95 for a couple of hours. The only time I could see any throttling was when I also ran furmark along with Prime95, and even then it seemed to throttle the voltage, the Processor speed stilled stayed at 2.6GHZ. So in extensive testing despite Intel XTU saying throttling was occurring it wasnt effecting the CPU clockspeed at all.

Overall it's an excellent package. It's not perfect but I think for a lot of people the pluses will far outweigh the minuses. And note the things it is weak on, are common failings among any fast laptop with a decent GPU.

To say it's too heavy or that the power supply is too heavy, that's simply counterfactual. No other laptop close to this in GPU power in the 17" form factor weighs so little or has so small a power supply.

 

Is it possible to get the refund by sending it into you guys because newegg Won't let me refund at all. The reason I would like a refund is because the graphics card doesn't seem to run at full powered when I don't have it plugged It runs at 1/4 the power It is capable of.

 

That's normal. Gaming laptops are NOT meant to be run on battery alone. I believe almost every gaming laptop does this.

On another general note, trying to return "defective" merchandise to another retailer isn't the most ethical thing to do, even if they will allow it. Stuff like that is what warranty is for.

 

The Razer Blade and maybe Alienware don't throttle on battery. It is a warrantable excuse but only works for laptops with large enough batteries. If you are spending upwards of $1700 it can be a dealbreaker

 

This type of communication - direct with customers - is something I appreciate very much.

This sealed the deal for me. If I can find a good deal on a GS70, I'll make a purchase ASAP.

Thanks!

 

Yeah that is really annoying me right now. wish I Hadn't ordered from newegg, Amazon Would have taken it back and give me refund no problem I guess I'll call newegg Again and try and get a refund

 

Just how bad is the battery life since we haven't heard a word said about it? I'm waiting to pull the trigger on this if it does 5 hours

 

Looks like Newegg Won't give me the refund Dang it. If anyone's interested I put it on eBay for hundred dollars cheaper then Newegg has it for and i Included free shipping.

MSI GS70 2OD 001US Intel Core i7 16GB Memory 750GB HDD 128GB SSD 17 3" Notebook | eBay

 

The RBP charger is 150w (not 120w) and is noticeably smaller. Your move.

 

I find it unlikely this laptop could go 5 hours on battery if you are using it any way at all.

 

For some people the slightly LONGER, slightly narrower, slightly thinner Razer Blade Pro brick is a critical factor, for many others...not so much.

GS70 120w brick 5.75" x 2.9" x 1"

Razer 150w brick 5.9" x 2.36" x 0.87"

The AC Brick dimensions make no diff to 99.9% of people looking at these two models.

 

Power brick isn't the issue here. Battery life and gaming on battery seem to be the culprits on an otherwise excellent machine

I guess throttling and CPU temps as well, though they don't seem too bad compared to my Razer Blade

 

Are you willing to ship to Ireland?

Cheers!

 

I'm honestly not sure how what you describe is realistically possible. A gaming laptop's power draw at full load can easily exceed 100W. What battery is going to survive that kind of load? Note: I'm not talking "capacity" here, but rather the peak output.


Edit: But capacity is an issue as well. In what circumstances would someone want to be able to play for ~40min at full power before the relatively standard 60-70Wh battery dies completely (as in from 100% to 0%) under that kind of load? That's my understanding anyway. Am I missing something?

 

Hey guys, I am also curious about the battery life but only as it pertains to web browsing and light usage. I am using this for game design but if I want to get online at a coffee shop or at a convention I need something that won't be dead or near dying all the time. Would anyone be willing to give me a ballpark of how long their machine ran at normal settings with the Intel GPU in a web browser? If it can get over 5 hours like the Razer Blade 14" then I will get one.

 

+1, I am looking to use it for class, and it would be a deal breaker if it doesn't do 5+ hours. The Blade does minimum that when doing word processing and such.

Thanks

 

I believe that throttling is the wrong term here. Defaulting to the integrated graphics seems to be the issue. Out of the box, the Razer (14", at least) will still use the GTX765M on battery. That appears to not be the case with the GS70. This could be a simple driver issue, though. Has anyone edited the .ini of a more recent NV driver and given that a go on the GS70?

 

Blade or Blade Pro does a minimum of 5 hours? Even carefully configured, my Blade didn't get 5 hours with conservative settings.

 

If no one else responds by Monday, I will post my findings by Tuesday mid-day, just using the laptop for light use purposes- web browsing, MS Word, One note, Outlook.

 

Post them now! =)

 

My blade easily lasts 90 to 150 mins playing the most graphic intensive games at full load, no throttling and it's with a 72wHr battery. The gaming industry needs innovation like that and razer stepped in to fill that role with a near perfect laptop. MSI is playing catchup but they can easily perfect it and have an excellent ground to build on with the GS70.

It's because gaming companies like Sager, Alienware and ASUS have not innovated in this area that people think it's not realistically possible. If a push comes from Razer, MSI (and I hope ASUS follows soon) then we can see new pathway for gaming ultrabooks that don't compromise anything. But the Blade and GS70 first need to show the market and demand exists for both.

 

I'd send you or anyone else a fiver as a tip (USD) on paypal who can post results today, I want to get my order in before the weekend on either the MSI or the Blade.

 

I got mine in today so if someone has some specific questions I can try my best to answer.

 

Thanks I appreciate your response, I second what someone else noted this type of communication with customers is good.

Best regards

 

Hey Colton, My question is if you could let me know the approximate battery life of using the laptop with web browsing, with things like the keyboard light turned off and the backlight at medium. I want to know if this is a good day-to-day laptop on battery as well as a good gaming machine when plugged in.

 

I'm testing out the battery now. I've had it on battery power for nearly two hours and at that time the back lit keyboard has been on screen just below 50% brightness and I've had a consistent download of my music library, games, and playing some music, uninstalling bloatware...etc. I still have 41% battery life. I'll let you know if a couple of hours the total time.

 

There's absolutely no chance it gets anywhere near 5+ hours.

You're looking at the wrong type of laptop for that kind of battery life, unfortunately. Gaming laptops just simply draw too much power (coupled with the weak battery in the GS70).