Since MSI hasn't released any BIOS update in ages for the new GT75 8th Gen, I just thought of going into device manager, expanded the Firmware section, then chose search for updates and what do you know, Windows Update downloaded a new BIOS then upon reboot it installed it, then reset my settings back to default:
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
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Do you have Win 10 experiment mode enabled? I never thought a BIOS update would be shipped through WU. Maybe Everything will be from WU like OS X.
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
no I don't. I've had a BIOS update also through Windows Update on my previous GT73VR Titan Pro. Thank the Nazi Morons for invading our taptops to the point where they can perform a remote BIOS update now which auto installs upon reboot. This is called Micro$h4ft V00d00 M4g!c
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Also runs contrary to the recommended good practice of not updating/modifying the BIOS if everything is otherwise working. Looks like a valid method for bricking.Papusan, Vasudev, Mr. Fox and 1 other person like this. -
They have absolutely ZERO right to make changes to hardware/firmware and I wish they would get their asses sued into oblivion repeatedly and lose multiple billions of dollars for acting like retarded Nazis. They deserve worse than that, but the extreme financial loss and severe legal butt-kicking would be a good start. I'd love to see them have to declare bankruptcy and have to reorganize. Maybe next time they would think twice about pretending to be God of the consumer zombie masses.
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Best practice is to never update anything unless there is a known compelling reason for doing so (like a fix for a specific problem one is experiencing). Software and firmware updates cause more harm than good if the system is working correctly.Papusan, Vasudev and Spartan@HIDevolution like this.
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That idea is just way too crazy Microsoft, they are out of their minds! I'm sure in a few month we will hear people saying Windows did some weird thing on its own and my laptop no longer boots. And then we can see MSI blame the user or blame Microsoft!
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Now I know what W10 can do. My sis's laptop might had the BIOS update through that wrecked. It can't restart but can do a shutdown. Restarting puts the laptop in a unbootable state!
Actually MSI or OEMs package the BIOS update and send it to MSFT for further use case testing and validation and only then it gets into WU catalog. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...updating-device-firmware-using-windows-update -
what's new with the new bios?
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
Nothing that I've noticed other than the fonts on the screen look a bit sharper or I've been cursed by the placebo effectPapusan likes this. -
Check with this screenie of your BIOS . Use Ubu Development tool from Win-raid.
MSI BIOS 10A at their support site.
New BIOS uploaded by MSI to Microsoft 10D. The firmware updating procedure is similar to Surface laptops.(UWD driver framework)
Looks like it is a placebo effect after all since you got only new IRST Roms.
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Maybe not , I tried this with my GP73-8RE (120mhz) and I also noted that the text looks a little better on the Desktop Icons but I thought that came from the latest Intel GFX Drivers to be honest that I also installed. The Firmware gets stored in the Windows Directory in the Firmware Folder BTW.
It does not update the EC Firmware though , that I had to do myself as it was several version behind and I noted in the Bios Notes it mentioned the latest EC version too, so I assumed it was needed for compatibility. -
Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative
BIOS and EC are two separate chips therefore they needed to be updated individually, one at a time.Vasudev likes this. -
About time you re-run all Benchmarks. Especially the one for the processor. But why in Hell looking for trouble like this?
Please post the new bench results in your MSI review thread
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psst, just got a new GT75 Titan 8RG-055, are you still doing tweaks? -
Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
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I currently have the E17A3IMS. 109 2018/ 03/14
MSI only has E17A3IMS. 10A 2018/ 04/23 on their site, WU installed E17A3IMS. 10D 2018/ 05/14
How did WU manage to send you a newer BIOS (From the Device Manager update) than MSI has officially listed?
Any problems? I need to update mine.
Also ...
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
How did Microsoft a newer BIOS than what MSI is offering? Probably MSI sent it to them but didn't publish it on the site like usual, pure BS from their drivers team.
anyway, when updating the BIOS through the device manager, you don't need to do a thing, there's nothing for you to download or unzip, you simply update and reboot then it starts the update process automatically before it boots up to Windows, it might reset your BIOS to default as well. -
Looks like you haven't read MSFT's new developer T&C's, driver framwework manual and what not. Now everything will be mandatory to use Win App store so that they pass MS's very strict test cases and customer gets 100% working products.
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Updated mine, I got kinda nervous after the 4th reboot ....
I don't ever remember a 3rd or 4th doing it from the BIOS, just the 1 reboot.
Maybe this is why I'm having problems with my GT75, I just went through a boot loop with a MS update today as well.
I guess we will see in the coming days how well behaved this all is.
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I haven't updated my BIOS since I got this laptop. I should probably not tempt fate in Device Manager.
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It'll be slowly coming to all laptops regardless of manufacturer. Redstone 5 and later version demands it.
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So you don't have an answer to whether or not the GT73 has the option in the Device Manager.
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I just checked. It says the best drivers are already installed.
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I don't know. Maybe you can check with @Falkentyne
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What is the version listed in your NB compared to whats available here, and at MSI for your notebook?
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I'm still on the original BIOS I think? Help Desk lists the version as E17A1IMS.107, while the newest BIOS available online is E17A1IMS.10E.
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I did mine through the Device Manager, it went so smoothly, but the PC started an stopped 6x, or so it seemed.
Sit back and relax, let it do its thing. Make sure you have a full charge and are plugged in to AC power.
Yesterday I got the W10 update to 17763.1, so I suppose it may have been necessary for me, otherwise I may be chasing bugs unnecessarily.
I do prefer the Device Manager method, much easier.
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I tryd to install the newest MSI-Bios
The devices comes with E17A3IMS.110 2018/09/04
On the MSI Support page is E17A3IMS.10A 2018-04-23
Here I saw, that 10D is available.
After I used the firmware update over device manager I have two different versions?
After installing under windows, I rebooted the system. But there was no updating process then, windows booted just normal.
Now I have the situation, that the Bios itself shows 110. MSI-Helpdesk shows 110. BUT Device Manager shows now 10D ?!?
I have Bitlocker activated. Maybe this prevent the Bios update process? So 10D is not available over MSI Page.
Reinstalling over Device Manager wont work, due Device Manager sayd, the newest version is installed...
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Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative
110 is newer than 10A and 10D and 110 isn't available over the web.
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thanks for clarification.
But if I look now into
Bios
Bios Version: E17A3IMS.110 (09/04/2018)
will differ from the Device Manager Firmware Entry:
MS-17A3 SBios Ver.10D
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Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative
Those two are not the same.
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yes I know, this both are different versions
In Bios Setup it shows as E17A3IMS.110 (buyed the laptop a few days ago)
In Firmware under Windows 10 and a manual search for a "new version", he showed me MS-17A3 SBios Ver.10D
Did that means, my system runs two differend Bios Versions?Kevin@GenTechPC likes this. -
Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative
Nope, it's just MSI hasn't released 110 to the general public yet but they used it in the shipping units.
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
New BIOS E17A3IMS.10D for GT75 Titan 8th Gen
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