New MSi GS70 6QE ! IPS Screen WOOW NICE !

Hey guys MSi has new updated GS70 series to 6QE/6QC !!!
Beautiful IPS screen NO MORE TN !
4X RAID support AWESOME !
6 gen Intel !
2x USB 3.1 support NICE !
And more ..

I KNEW IT that I should wait !! Thanks GOD I didn't buy 2QE .. old

http://www.msi.com/product/notebook/GS70-6QE-Stealth-Pro.html#hero-specification

 

It's going to be a popular model I think

 

Keep in mind that the GS70 does NOT have the USB-C port and Thunderbolt 3 capability. The GT72 and GS60 do though.

 

It can be a great PC if MSI would stop treating it like a redheaded stepchild.

 

It's time for a revision for GS70 because it was the first to release, but GS60 caught up really well.

 

Valid points, but since there really aren't a lot of devices that use those now, I don't think it will be a big factor for most people yet. I'm excited to see a better screen on that model though.

 

It's like this, someone's gotta send the stuff out there and eventually they will be needed when the time comes.

 

There is USB 3.1 usb standard connector ! And that means it doesn't matter if there is c type or a type..
There are many cables and adapters avail. Now ..

 

I think the Type-C/Thunderbolt 3 is a bigger deal on the GS60/GS70 than it is on the GT72. The GT72 has upgradable graphics, where as the GS series does not. The thing that excites me most about Thunderbolt 3 is the ability to run external gfx cards. With no upgrade path on the GS series, this becomes more important for keeping the laptop usable longer.

If Thunderbolt isn't a big issue now, I think it's because people don't understand what it can do. It's a game changer IMO.

That is incorrect.

It matters because USB 3.1 doesn't support Thunderbolt 3. Thunderbolt 3 supports USB 3.1, and uses the Type-C connector. Simply using an adapter to a C plug won't give you the capabilities. The A plugs only support 10W of power where the C plugs support 100. This isn't just a matter of a using an adapter and calling it good. USB Type-C is not backward compatible with Type-A. If it were really that simple, why would MSI even bother putting the C ports on the GT72 and GS60?

Check these articles:

http://www.cnet.com/news/thunderbolt-3-and-usb-type-c-join-forces-for-one-port-to-rule-them-all/
https://thunderbolttechnology.net/blog/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-does-it-all
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...its-way-alongside-usb-3-1s-10gbit-performance
http://www.zdnet.com/article/what-is-usb-type-c-and-usb-3-1-gen-1/
http://www.velocitymicro.com/blog/usb-3-1-vs-usb-type-c-vs-usb-3-0-whats-the-difference/

 

No o

None 3.1 usb supports 100W for now even.. c type doesn't.. that will be in future..
But check my link in first post and see specs .. there says 2x usb 3.1 and 2 usb 3.0 so a type usb 3.1 is present there..
And thunderbold isn't really used in PC that is apples stuff.. I preffer HDMI

 

If all you care about is storage and peripherals that have been USB, then USB 3.1 is fine. It's just a faster version of USB.

If you want to be able to use the new capabilities like Intel was showing off at IDF, then you need a Thunderbolt port. It's not just an Apple thing. Intel and Apple co-developed it, but Intel's made it a part of the new platform. It demoed a whole bunch of devices at IDF, so this is something that's up and coming. It's not going away. It's just beginning.

If you don't want or need the capability to run external graphics cards, external PCI-E devices and the like, then you'll be just fine with the GS70's setup. The point is that if someone is expecting to get the SuperPort capabilities that are in the GT72 or the GS60 with the GS70, they're going to be disappointed. You need much more than "just an adapter."

I don't see what's so hard to grasp about that.

 

That is your opinion .. I do NOT require these features ..
For me the main thing is that MSi realised that TN screen is past.. first thing is for me :
1.Design (best looking slim laptop)
2.IPS screen
3.QUAD RAID 0
4.Strong GPU
5.Skylake CPU
6.DDR 4 RAM
The external connectivity don't bothers me at all. as I do not buy laptop for external display..
And if , I would buy 4k acer http://4k.com/news/meet-acers-new-4k-ultra-hd-bezel-free-monitor-4160/ .
But that is last thing I would do ..
If you have laptop you really do not need usb 3.1 so much u not gonna transfer files every day .
that is minor add on.. usb 3.1 will be more efficient in smartphones to get phone charged faster I barely use usb only mouse and keyboard receivers are connected in usb ..

 

You're missing my point. As I said in another post, if those features don't matter to you then great! Buy it and be happy. Seriously. I'm not here to convince you to get something else, despite what you may think.

That said, this conversation is public and it may matter to someone else. While my reasons for wanting/not wanting a particular feature are unique to me, it doesn't change the FACTS I've stated about what the systems have and don't have.

That's cool that's what your needs are. The GS70 and GS60 don't do Super RAID 4 though as they only have 1 M.2 PCI-E slot. The GT72S is the only one with Super Raid 4 at this time. Again, if the GS70 meets your needs, then by all means, buy it.

Great - you found a laptop that meets your needs. I'm happy for you. Seriously. That said, it's important that the right information is out there so people can make the right decision based on their needs what the machine actually has.

And your opinion on USB 3.1 is certainly your opinion. Others may have different needs.

 

Everyone has slightly different needs after all, some people will go great DDR4, I can maybe double the capacity per stick, some will wish they had DDR3 because it is cheaper and they don't need the capacity.

 

Man jeeez AGAIN
Why u saying this ??
''The GS70 and GS60 don't do Super RAID 4 though as they only have 1 M.2 PCI-E slot. The GT72S is the only one with Super Raid 4 at this time. Again, if the GS70 meets your needs, then by''

OF COURSE it supports Quad RAID 0 oh man you saying things and you even never checked if it's true what you saying..
Man, GS70 2QE has 3x mSATA and 1x SATA even on that model I will create Quad RAID 0 from 4x mSATA SSDs ..
And yes GS70 6QE only have 1 M.2 PCI-E slot BUT in the laptop .. and you forgot what GT72 you inserting in M.2 PCI-E slot ??? you insert the one block of 4x connectors WHICH can hold 4x m.2 SSDs and NOW , they implemented it in 6QE too !
Come oon man you have very very low knowledge about MSi laptops..
STOP claiming something when you DON'T know on 100% !

ddr4 is marketing unfortunately it needs to be done because others manuf. does it too and it must go with age.. they are now even in smartphones..
It is nothing bad and nothing revolutionary.. so am not bothered..

 

Dude, try actually reading MSI's site and see what it says. Go ahead. I'll wait. Tell me what it says in each device for the storage specs in the links below.

These are actually Skylake laptops. The previous generation of the GS sites has RAID. These do not because the one PCI-E x4 slot is faster than the old implementation.

http://www.msi.com/gaming-iframe/nb/GT72S-6QE-Dominator-Pro-G.html

http://www.msi.com/gaming-iframe/nb/GT72-6QE-Dominator-Pro-G.html

http://www.msi.com/gaming-iframe/nb/GS70-6QE-Stealth-Pro.html

http://www.msi.com/gaming-iframe/nb/GS60-6QE-Ghost-Pro.html

I understand what you're trying to say, but this is a new platform. Things aren't the same this time around. You'll notice that RAID isn't touted on the new ones except the GT72S

Read this from the GS series on MSI's site.

"Get in the game before everyone else with the latest PCI-E Gen 3.0x4 bandwidth utilizing NVMe technology on single M.2 SSD."

Really? There's a riser card? Not according to MSI. Single M.2 SSD utilizing PCI-E x4.

Before you go insulting my intelligence, you had better make darn sure you know what you're talking about. You clearly don't.

 

MSI are usually not going to advertise a feature they don't have active in that particular machine, at the same time they are not going to produce multiple types of add in card for the m.2 bays so I expect the other GT72 will be able to add in more storage.

As for the others we will see.

 

So in that case msi doesn't wrie features clearly.. I red there x4 and then followed SSD so I thought it will have x4 m. 2 ssds slots
Then this means it is pcie x4 same as in desktops.. Woow nice
Just realized..
Sorry About this msi site confused me
No dont think it is insulting..

 

No worries, and no hard feelings. I've been spun up the last few days with some other things, so I apologize if I come off snippy.

I believe MSI's site is done by non-native English speakers, so that could contribute to some confusion as well. Have a good one!

 

I'm assuming last year's GS70 2QE Stealth Pro Red had just a basic TN panel?

 

Unfortunately, yes. GS60 gets all the love.

 

Well that's a shame. Found a good deal on an almost-new GS70 2QE, but a TN panel on this type of machine is a big no-no.

 

I'm with you there.

 

better verified again, the spec don't mentioned about RAID and "IPS level" maybe just something equivalent only...

 

Yes .. it was kind of last model of the best .. but even last year's it was kind of outdated as I have Ultrabook from 2013 and it has AUO Optronics IPS touch screen.. MSi kind of came too late with IPS panels ..

 

Don't believe they would fit TN again .. if yes it is gonna be BIG FAIL again ..!

 

17.3" IPS panels weren't available back then I believe. None of the 17.3" laptops from previous years had 1080p IPS panels.

 

I think all the skylake models announced so far use IPS panels.

 

What?? come oon what u ar talking bout .. there IS from LG one model but two variants .. !
Quite some time ago tried to buy 2QE and along with these two IPS screens.
LG LP173WF4-SPF1 or LP173WF4-SPD1 Asus Y70 uses one and Acer Nitro !
But I contacted chinese ppl on aliexpress and they said 2QE laptop has TN panel so this two LGs won't work on 2QE as they are not interchangeable . So I left it be ..
One guy managed to interchange his screen to these IPS LG but in different laptop Clevo NP9377SM-A with exactly same TN panel as 2QE has..

 

Yes, and those are very new IPS panels, first made available on the Nitro/Alienware 17/ASUS G751/Lenovo Y70. Up until these LG panels, there were no IPS panels available. Which is exactly what I said.

Reading comprehension...

 

There are the ones used in the professional series as high colour gamut ones.

 

NEW ?? come oon man BOTH laptops YEAR ago and you know what? the production of these panels started in 2013 and SPF 2014
2QE started SAME year season, why not equipped with these LG screens?? hm ?
Man I have this mastered loong time ago bcos I was gathering like over 100% information about swapping screen in 2QE so I know what am talkin bout ..
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Y70-Notebook-Review.128841.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Aspire-V17-Nitro-VN7-791G-759Q-Notebook-Review.126701.0.html
http://www.panelook.com/LP173WF4-SPD1_LG Display_17.3_LCM_parameter_24463.html
http://www.panelook.com/LP173WF4-SPF1_LG Display_17.3_LCM_parameter_21056.html

EDIT: looks like there are two new contenders AUO and samsung
auo with 1000:1 contrast wow
http://www.panelook.com/sizmodlist....display_mode_lc_family=IPS&production_state=1

 

Production is never that simple, it can come down to board designs (connector types used), availability of parts etc.

 

Planing, design, production,shipping..Yes 1-2 years ..
I was always interested in LCD how it is build .. here is good site for it .. there are technologies how panels are build ..There are many types of IPS models
And yes professional panels which mostly are found in NEC monitors .. But they are in different price category as they exceeds prices of the laptops
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/content/ips_technologies.htm
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/working.htm
Really can't wait to see which type of the IPS panel is fitted in this 6QE

 

Yes, a year ago. The machine in question, the GS70, when do you think it came out? And if a machine came out the same year, it often means it was already designed and in production before. Often by the time these new technologies are announced, it can be too late for OEMs to incorporate them into their designs. In other words, it was probably too late to add it into the GS70.

Not to mention that its entirely possible LG had no spare capacity, if they'd already contracted out their output to other OEMs. Much like Apple does with certain cell phone parts, making them unavailable to others.

 

Bcos you said those panels are new.. And I even said that I have 2013 laptop with great IPS screen so it must be designed in 2011 or 2012 then and even touch IPS is fitted.. The thing is that MSi never used IPS b4 ..
They starting using it only just now.. That's it.. nothing else..

 

is the new one
GE72 6QD Apache Pro
and
GS70 6QE Stealth Pro
has low fan noise ?

 

when it will release ?

 

fans will be definitely improved (hope so) as it is stated on their site cooler boost 3

 

here is already for sale ..

http://www.techhypermart.com/notebo...-256gb-ssd-1tb-16gb-ddr4-nv-gtx970m-w10h.html

http://gamershideout.com.my/index.p...gaming+laptop&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=50

http://www.lelong.com.my/msi-gs70-6...ook-techhypermart-I2294518-2007-01-Sale-I.htm

 

ok and how cool 3 , i think apache has it already the 4th and 5th gen , (prev version)
was it high loud fan ?

 

yeah owners of gs70 says fans are very loud when gaming

 

how about MSI GE72 Apache-078 ? or MSI GP72 Leopard Pro-002
do they get loud ?

 

Man this is GS70 6 series thread .. you can ask or open your own thread..

 

They're weaker laptops.

 

sometimes ppl just find something can run lol or dota2. lol

 

i want to wait someone post review of this new laptop and about heats and loud fan
they said its boost cooler 3,
if its same as other model which is 5th gen and already have boost cooler 3 , it will be useless coz i read people said its loud not silent laptop

 

man think in GT laptops mUST be higher because higher gpus or two gpus ! it is not down to year followed..
you are brainwashed by numbering... In this case numbering means what particular msi laptop requires..
lower performance msi laptops needs cooler 2 or 1 ..

 

its
GS70 6QE threat
i just want to see full review of someone have it ^^
GT is very heavy and more expensive
gs70 stealth one of the lowest weights, and i dont care about dvd/bluray drive
so most important now of this is the fan i dont want laptop loud fan at work

 

http://www.msi.com/product/notebook/PX60-2QD.html#hero-overview

px has boost cooler 3 , and its 4th gen

right or iam wrong ?
i mean is it same system cooling as gs70 the 6th gen ?