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    New Wind Successors could be dual core

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Jayayess1190, Sep 18, 2008.

  1. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Rikimusha Notebook Consultant

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    sweet =D dual core, time for the wind to live up to their speedy name
     
  3. Silvr6

    Silvr6 Notebook Evangelist

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    I would love to see a Wind based on AMD's A64 2000+ along with the 780g chipset. The 945 chipset is really holding the wind back from making a great all around netbook, with that said I love my Wind!
     
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    The netbook would melt.... and have a 12 minute battery life with AMD.
     
  5. Mark Larson

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    Intel propaganda++
     
  6. Silvr6

    Silvr6 Notebook Evangelist

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    It would melt would it, realworld tests show it actually consumes less power platform wide than the intel atom, and does not run hotter, you might want to read up on some things before running your mouth

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Atom-Athlon-Efficient,1997.html

    AND just to take a shot to totally prove you wrong look at these graphs...

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Atom-Athlon-Efficient,1997-4.html

    BTW i'm not an Amd fanboy, I just know the facts and i do in fact love my Wind with the atom, but from a platform perspective its kind of lacking.
     
  7. Phil

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    Does not seem like a fair comparison because the AMD has a huge heatsink on it.
     
  8. ArchAngel777

    ArchAngel777 Notebook Evangelist

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    If the wattage output is lower, then the heatsink size isn't relevent anyway. A lower wattage platform will always produce less heat. Do not confuse temperature, heatsink and fans with wattage output.
     
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    The point i'm trying to make is that people need to think before they speak about things they don't know about. The above mentioned chip would be perfect in a netbook, platform wise it is more efficient and gives better all around performance, its really a no brainer, its too bad that it isn't available yet.

    One negative is that physical size wise, the amd chip is huge compared to the atom, but it shouldn't prove that difficult to fit into a netbook.
     
  10. Phil

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    I don't think so. The AMD has a TDP of 8 watt, while the Atom's TDP is 4 watt. This means the AMD will produce more heat and needs the big heatsink as you can see on the picture.

    The TDP and large heatsink that it needs make it not as suited for netbooks as the Atom.
     
  11. ArchAngel777

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    I don't agree. Where the Atom is currently failing is in the chipset. The chipset consumes far more power than the processor itself, in this case, it is an additional 30-40 watts. If the 4 watt Atom can be passively cooled by a tiny heatsink, then an 8 watt Athlon could be cooled by simply adding a fan to that tiny heatsink - to dissipate the heat. Since the chipset itself (780G) consumes less power than Intel 945, the end result is a Netbook that is faster and consumes less power overall. This also obviously means that less heat is generated!

    The platform itself must be compared, not the CPU only as it can't run without a platform... So if your platform is not efficient (Intel 945), then having a 1 watt CPU won't make that much of a difference. The CPU itself would have to offset the lack of efficiency in the chipset.

    The reason that AMD Heatsink is so 'big' by the way is simple because no one makes them smaller for the Desktop platform they were testing on. Heatsinks are not designed for 'one' chip configurations in that case. The are designed to handle all sorts of TDP loads. So that heatsink would support far, far greater wattage output than just 8 watts. So don't read to much into the Heatsink as it is not relevent to the discussion. 8 watts of heat is 8 watts of heat. 4 watts of heat is 4 watts of heat. Big Heatsink, small Heatsink, it isn't relevent except in the case of the temperature of the silicon itself.
     
  12. tootall4wsu

    tootall4wsu Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree, platforms make all the difference. As do the IGP's that they come with. The AMD platform + ATI IGP = much greater performance/price and you help support an underestimated company in the process.
     
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    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Actually it looks good, stylish~~
     
  15. sxusteven

    sxusteven Notebook Evangelist

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    o_O It looks good! :D How's it ugly o_o? What part don't you like about it?
     
  16. Micaiah

    Micaiah Notebook Deity

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    It looks good, a bit toy-ish but I like it more than the original Wind.
     
  17. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Needs to be one color, preferably black.
     
  18. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    I think it looks cheap and shoddy next to the current model
     
  19. sxusteven

    sxusteven Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmm... I don't think it will be too hard to give a paintjob to though, but idk how well winds come apart.