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    Problems with Vista and the MS1057/S262.

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Giskard, Feb 23, 2007.

  1. Giskard

    Giskard Notebook Enthusiast

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    Quick summary of problem: Intel SpeedStep doesn't seem to be working with Vista Home Premium.

    Long Summary: For some reason, no matter what I change in Vista's power settings, I can't get the processor (Intel Core Duo 2.0Ghz) to budge from 2Ghz. I have tried disabling and then re-enabling SpeedStep in the BIOS, which is currently the latest version posted on the MSI site (2.6), but that made no difference. I also ran Windows Update to see if there was a magical driver that would do the trick, but that also was a bust.

    SpeedStep works fine in XP both with and without Notebook Hardware Control, so I know that my laptop's processor is perfectly capable of throttling its clock. SpeedStep also works properly even in various distros of Linux of all things, so I'm fairly certain it can't be a hardware issue.

    Is this a Vista exclusive issue? Does it have a solution? Are any other MS1057 owners having this issue? I would highly appreciate input.

    Thanks for your time.
     
  2. jmsrca

    jmsrca Newbie

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    It's more than likely a vista issue. its a young os and I'm pretty sure we will be finding bugs for the next few years.
    As for the speedstep problem, I'm running home premium and mine doesn't throttle back either but I don't like speedstep so it not working is a plus for me. I haven't tried to get it to work correctly.
    I also am having problems with my wlan dieing for no reason and refusing to see networks until I turn my pc off and pull the battery and that doesn't always fix it, which I've traced back to the power options.
    I think ms tried to make the power settings better and ended up borking it for allot of people.
     
  3. robm@rkcomputer.net

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    Email me at the address below, i have a newer version that should resolve your problem.
     
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    Which wireless lan driver are you using? From Vista or off the Intel Site?
     
  5. jmsrca

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    im using a msi mn54g wlan card, i dont think its intel based, in the drivers it shows as a ritel driver, I've used the built in vista driver, a driver i found on the ritel site and one for xp that came on the install cs, all do the same thing.
     
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    Giskard Notebook Enthusiast

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    Unfortunately, my problem persists.

    At this point I have tried the following:
    -Reformatted Vista twice, trying different versions along the way.
    -Tried different "power plans" and adjusted all options in "Advanced Power Management".
    -Updated the BIOS to version 2.70.

    After discussing it with Noclue4uhere, he concluded that it must be a hardware issue, but my problem with that is that SpeedStep works in XP and Linux distros, so if the hardware appears to work in these cases, how could it be the hardware with Vista?

    My hopeful bias is that something is wrong with Vista that may be patched over in the future, but that could be wrong.

    Are there any other MS1057/S262 owners specifically who are having this problem?
     
  8. Giskard

    Giskard Notebook Enthusiast

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    Good news. My problem has been resolved by the latest BIOS update just released on the MSI website (7.01 or something like that).
     
  9. EvilMunky

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    So what was the issue?

    I am using a Dell D600 Latitude, and im having the same speed step issue runnng vista. on XP the speed step works. Although there is no bios update available. What does that leave me to do now?
     
  10. Giskard

    Giskard Notebook Enthusiast

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    I stated my issue in the first post of the topic.

    I suppose without a BIOS update you're just out of luck, unless Vista eventually gets an update that resolves the issue on its end. Or maybe the issue is only BIOS specific and can't be fixed OS-side; I don't really know enough about it to give a confident answer. All I know is that I installed MSI's latest BIOS update for the MS1057 and SpeedStep suddenly started working in Vista.
     
  11. EvilMunky

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    This really annoys me. Why cant things just work the way they are supposed to. This is a pretty major bug on Micro "shafts" part. Booooo!!!
     
  12. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    From my understanding, this is an ACPI issue with BIOS and not with Vista. It just so happens that Vista is a little less lenient of buggy or not-so-fully-implemented ACPI features and doesn't play nice when that happens. Linux and XP are more forgiving.
     
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    There is a bug, I don't know if it is classified as "bios", I'm no expert. Since I was having trouble with my Intel 3945abg, (sometimes it wasn't being recognized on boot) I went hunting for the problem. Using this guide I decompiled the DSDT (which is compiled with the MSFT compiler) and recompiled using the Intel compiler. Errors and warnings!

    My knowledge isn't too deep in this area, so I wasn't able to follow the guide and fix the DSDT.

    Industry commentary aside, my question is this: If this was compiled with MSFT, shouldn't they have known what their compilers let by and accounted for it? I can ony assume with the new OS, they have provided a new compiler to OEMs, and said "Hey, recompile your stuff with this new compiler; it is less lenient and will ensure your stuff works."

    So I'm betting that the ball is with MSI (and other OEMs).