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    Question: 150W Slim Replacement Adapter

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by webusermy, Apr 29, 2014.

  1. webusermy

    webusermy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Title says it all.

    After using this for my old GE40, and moving to the GS60, I find the 150W insanely huge.

    I've been looking around for a slimmer third party alternative but I was starved to find one. The only thing I found is that Razer has an amazingly slim 150W adapter... *insert jealousy here*.

    Has anyone else had any luck with finding one? The closest I can find is the Cooler Master USNA 120.. but it's near impossible to find that anywhere... not to mention that it is a whole 30W lower.

    Would like to hear from everyone else who has been on the quest for a slimmer/lighter power brick! :hi2:
     
  2. Nyceis

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    I had no luck finding one either. MSI told me they don't have any and to buy one on ebay. Not a great customer service answer to be honest.
     
  3. Prostar Computer

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    Well hopefully they weren't rude. To be fair though, if they don't supply an alternative, there's not much else to recommend other than to look into aftermarket bricks. Delta makes good adapters, but I don't know if there is one compatible with this machine.
     
  4. ilhyungl

    ilhyungl Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm looking for the same thing. Everything that's reasonable / attractive is < 150W
     
  5. be77solo

    be77solo pc's and planes

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    Curious, I've not used or even seen the Razer brick, but if it's so much smaller and what you want, would it not work with other laptops? Obviously might have to change the tip out, but is there another reason it wouldn't work?

    Oddly, I had the opposite experience... I've been so used to 180W bricks on all my other machines, the GS60's is tiny to me ha! It's half the size of my other bricks! :D
     
  6. Nyceis

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    Oh no, you are quite correct - the one that comes with the GS60 is perfect. The challenge is finding a second or third one like that.

    N
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    About the only thing that can be done it to mod a Dell 240W PSU to use the right cable. There is no other option really. It does of course come with the obvious warranty and skill implications.
     
  8. webusermy

    webusermy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Urgh.. that was disappointing. An alternative for me would be to just buy a spare MSI 150W adapter and keep one at work and at home, the two most frequent place and have a 120W Cooler Master USNA 120 to bring around on my travels. (Just gotta watch and make sure the power draw doesn't exceed 110W++.

    Anything that's reasonable / attractive for me is 90W or less... I can't even source the 120W Cooler Master USNA.. I have not found a single place online, offline, local & overseas that sells it. LOL. All out of stock.

    I MAY be tempted to do just that TBH, worse come to worse. LOL... Time to get out my soldering iron!


    The size of the brick is not too bad. But the power cable, that Mickey mouse head cable is just so thick and... yuck.. compared to the nice smaller pig nose cables.. LOL
     
  9. ilhyungl

    ilhyungl Notebook Enthusiast

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    What happens if I use a 90W adapter on the GS60?

    Power still goes down but slower? or are there more dire consequences?
     
  10. Imperviable

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    I feel like it might drain from the battery but I'm not sure.
     
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    The brick could over draw and spike the system if you are unlucky.
     
  12. webusermy

    webusermy Notebook Enthusiast

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    For what usage are you talking about?

    I am using a third party 90W power brick on it at the moment as I am typing this. For regular browsing/office task usage with words/excel etc, no issues at all.

    I tested gaming with the original 90W brick that came with my GE40. When you decide to use it for gaming, it will overdraw and the adapter will just stop charging the computer. When that happens, the GS60 will keep swapping between AC Power mode and Battery mode.
     
  13. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    It will just stop providing power to the system and the system will switch to battery mode.
    If the system doesn't have a battery installed, then the system will simply shut off without warning and data loss can happen if you are in the middle of working.
    There's no other consequence when any of this happens.
     
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    very helpful.

    thanks all!
     
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    Character Zero Notebook Evangelist

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    I have an extra AC Adapter (170w) from my Lenovo Y400. If the tips look like they match, I should be able to use it right?
     
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    webusermy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Should be fine. Just make sure the voltage is the same, you do not want to fry your system..



    Anyway, for anyone who is curious on this topic. I have actually did some research before making the purchase and found that the Razer's tip was actually compatible with the MSI GS60. Once I discovered that, I immediately made a purchase of the Razer's 150W power adapter.

    I am pleased to report that the Razer's 150W power adapter does work. I have been using it for a few hours now, although under heavy gaming, the laptop's battery will drain instead, most likely the hybrid system kicking in or something to give more juice. But the fact that I can game with what is a much lighter and more portable adapter on the go, I am happy with the result. It's so much smaller.
     
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    Also check the polarity is the same.
     
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  18. be77solo

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    Curious, do you notice the same battery drain when gaming using the stock MSI adapter? Also, are you using the 860m or the 870m? If the Razer performs similar and is smaller, I'll order one now! I've yet to notice any battery drain using the stock 150W MSI adapter with my 860m however.

    Thanks!
     
  19. Imperviable

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    Some people were saying that the system would drain and charge the battery on purpose since it was unhealthy to continue charging at full. Not sure how true that is though.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  20. webusermy

    webusermy Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just tested using the stock MSI adapter. Stress testing using Intel Extreme Tuning Utility + FurMark also resulted in the battery level slowly draining. Of course, mine is the 870m model, and this is with Turbo Boost switched on.



    This is seems about right.

    When observing the battery icon at 100%, it shows 100% available (plugged in, not charging), and this was the case until around 95% when it will change to (plugged in, charging).
     
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    The machine will only draw up to what it expects the brick to be able to provide and then draw any excess from the battery.
     
  22. be77solo

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    Does it have the same drain with the stock MSI power adapter? I'd assume so but curious if for some reason the Razer puts out less power.

    Both my MSI's have similar battery characteristics between 95-100%.... I've always assumed it was just to save the battery, as you don't want it 100% charging all the time.

    Thanks!
     
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    Yes, the battery wont be charged past a certain point once it has gone to 100% to help reduce the wear.
     
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    I see, so it is safe to plug in the adapter all time right without the fear of the decrease of battery lifetime, right?
    I'm not travelling for 1-2 months so I just put my laptop on the desk.
     
  25. Porter

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    What I do and has served me well over many years and different notebooks, is plug the laptop (and display and speakers etc) into a power strip with a switch on it. Then at the end of the day I turn the notebook off and then turn the power strip off so it's not charging any more than necessary. My last work laptop battery after 3 years was almost as good as new. Occasionally I would have a chance to discharge it most of the way, most days it was plugged in at my desk all day. And at night I would undock it so it wasn't plugged in all night long.
     
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    Yes, it's safe to leave the adapter connected. Modern electronics help to prevent "overcharging" that older batteries suffered from.
     
  27. webusermy

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    I only tested for the existence of the drain for 1-2%, but not the time it took to drain so I don't know the answers right now.

    I'll do a test this weekend and calculate the difference between the MSI stock adapter and the Razer adapter.
     
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    The biggest enemy other than excessive cycling are rapid changes in heat, the battery is not positioned to be heated under load so you are good.
     
  29. Shark00n

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    What about the Asus power adaptors used in the G750? Are they powerful enough? Then it's just a matter of changing the power lead in any electronics store, should be cheap.
    They are smaller and prettier than the MSI stock one
     
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    The 240w dell brick is the one of choice to mod.
     
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    I also need a second power adapter for my GS60 and I was already planning to just buy a Razer Blade AC. Seeing people say that it has exactly the same connecter made me wanna go for it even more. Problem is, I don't know where to get it??!! I see this site, but when I fill in my country (inside europe) it just does not let me add it to my cart.

    Anyone an idea how where to get one while living in europe?
     
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    That is normal. a battery cannot constantly be charged. Almost all laptops do this.
     
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    They don't get charged constantly, except when it's below 95%.