Review - 2019 GS65 w/2080 Max-Q

Hey everyone!
For those of you interested in purchasing this laptop, here's my review:

• https://www.theeverydayenthusiast.com/home/review-2019-msi-gs65

If you're curious how it stacks up against last years model with a 1070 Max-Q, here's my comparison:

• https://www.theeverydayenthusiast.com/home/comparison-2018-gs65-vs-2019-gs65

Hope this helps!

-JRey

 

Great review , love the comparison from last years model.

 

Wow nice work. Just noticed this! The comparison in particular was helpful for me.

Anyway you can speak to the flex of the back panel of the screen when closed. I am under the impression that it has a lot of flex of the 2018 model and I worry about it creating unnecessary pressure in the screen when in a backpack full of gear not books.


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Thanks for taking the time, it's always good to have more real user data and impressions available.

 

I haven't noticed any flex while I've had the laptop. I've packed it with other stuff and still see no flex.

 

Very good write-up, well done!

 

Amazing review and exceptional performance for a laptop this thin and light.

 

I went through both of the reviews and they were amazing! I wish more reviews did the side by side comparison you did, especially showing the review with all of the settings for performance tuning. I just purchased one of these babies today, so I am pretty excited to get my hands on it.

The only one of these optimizations that concerns me is what you have done for the Bios Optimizations.

How critical is that in maintaining the temps and the throttling control?
Can I get away with everything else but leave that part out and still keep the system from stuttering during gaming?
Is that also required to get the 10 hour battery life?

All the warnings have me a bit spooked.

 

Nah, you don’t need those settings at all. The bios stuff just helps the CPU keep maximum speed without throttling from power and current limitations.
To get the 10 hour battery that I’m getting, you need to do SOME bios stuff that just unlocks more control over the CPU (#2 in “My Improvements”). That will allow you to set a lower CPU speed when on battery which allows you to undervolt further.


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Ok, thanks. I will follow what you have and post what I end up getting. Curious to see how close I can get to your tuning. I am getting the same Grizzley/Fuji compounds on mine as well.

 

I don´t understand how you claim that there is no throttling on the CPU if every review and videos I seen so far about GS65 + RTX 2060 have massive downclocks on the CPU department, as low as 2,9ghz sometimes and high temps.

I guess you didn´t stress the CPU much? Because by using ultra presets the CPU only needs to feed 60fps or 70fps. You should do a 1080p low settings test for high refresh gaming on Battlefield V, for example. I am sure the CPU will downclock massively.

EDIT: Nevermind, I didn´t see your unit has Liquid Metal, now that makes sense. Because this machine without Liquid Metal suffers from heavy CPU downloacking.

 

Yea, LM played a roll in temps which is why I made sure it was in my review.
I did test the CPU with AVX heavy games like COD BO4 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider with all low settings to get maximum FPS, didn’t break 80c. Liquid metal is required


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LM will give you the best result, but even a good paste with a proper paste job will do the trick.

 

I was hoping for a miracle, but my almost three year old Tornado F5/L1613 7700K+1080 gets about 1700 more in Firestrike on stock clocks. That's still a great showing though.

The 2060 version of this might be pretty attractive since it would probably have some damn quiet fans.

 

You do have a faster CPU though so it makes sense you have a higher overall score. What's your graphics score? I'll retest mine so you can get a better idea of GPU capability.

 

Just did Firestrike on stock clocks for the CPU and GPU.

Overall - 16856
Graphics - 19630
Physics - 16771
Combined - 8214

 

Here's two different runs about a year apart, they are within error or margin of each other

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          |  2017   |  2018   |
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Overall   |  17744  |  17807  |
Graphics  |  21622  |  21574  |
Physics   |  14815  |  14993  |
Combined  |  8663   |  8781   |

Your CPU is going to do better than mine due to 6 cores vs 4 cores.

 

Well the 1080 is considerably more powerful since it is a 150w TDP I believe, or was it more? Probably. If we could mod the 2080 max q into a 100w TDP, I am sure it would close the gap and be a thin version of the 1080

It is still a great GPU. Such a big jump. Going from SLI 980m to a single GTX1080 was magical... I had more performance than my overclocked SLI, on a single GPU! Too bad we don't see these gains for a while

 

If the fans were quieter I'd still take that gs65 instead. At 1080p it's not going to matter between the two and the gs65 is lighter.

 

You think the 2060 might do the trick with the fans? I am not sure if the CPU is also a good % of the culprit with sound since it runs hot. I hope the sound is not an issue when I get mine.

 

notebookcheck reviewed the 2070 Max-Q unit and it looked like it had much quieter fans than the previous generation. I did notice that the 2070 and 2080 blades were the same weight and the 2060 was slightly lighter. It makes me think that the 2060 has slightly less heatsink, or maybe it's just less power delivery phases. Possibly both.

 

I had read rumors as well that the 2060 might have less heatpipes or something along those lines. Not sure.

 

For the extra $100 I'd probably rather have the 2070 if the heat management might be better.

 

I believe you. So the fan noise is a bit too much huh?

I wonder how I will feel about it.. I come from a noisy machine already, I hope it is at least quieter than my current GT73 haha.

 

is there a small comparison with the razer blade 15 advanced? I think they don't have the same 2080 MaxQ version from what I read.

 

slightly less I believe http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ics-benchmarks-by-model.827454/#post-10862964

 

Yes they use 90 watt maxq2080 This’s benchmark using stock gaming mode with undervolting, if he wanted he can go further with Afterburner and low the undervolting value for better scores, but I stop him

 

I’m doing a write up right now of a 80w vs a 90w 2080 Max-Q. It’ll be ready tomorrow.


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