*** The Official MSI GE60 Apache/Apache Pro (850M/860M) Owner's Lounge ***

I get 68º in GPU and 78º in CPU in that vid's benchmarck xd

I have a Cooler master U3.

 

Can you run 3dmark firestrike and post here link to your results?

Thats an answer!
Can you test your laptop without it?

 

Sure, tomorrow I'm uploading it.

 

So you would rather play with the fan blowing 90C air onto your mouse hand then? The left side is the logical choice if they want to put it on a side.

 

I think you are measuring the temps of this laptop wrongly.

 

Guys, I need your help to decide.
I'm planning to buy ge60 apache or apache pro.

Apache with i7 and gtx 850m or Apache Pro with i5 and gtx860m.

Which one will be better?
apache pro with i7 is too expensive

is i5 much weaker than i7? and is gtx 860m worth it having weaker processor?

laptop is needed also for the future, so which bundle will be better for the future - i7+gtx850m or i5+gtx860m?

Please answer asap

 

I guess the Apache Pro has the i7. And it is clearly more powerful, specially if you are expecting to maintain it for a long time. Besides, Apache Pro has a better screen.

So, i suggest you to go for the Apache pro. It worth's it.

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Or i would rather have them blow behind the laptop and still put cpu/gpu to the right.

 

Apache pro with i7 is too expensive

So its Apache pro with i5 +gtx 860m
OR
Apache with i7 +gtx 850m

 

It is said that the gtx 850m is an underclocked 860m... But I really don't know if this is totally true.

If so.. I'd buy the 850 and i7 version.

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And here you have my results with a full 3dmark test, about 15 min. 24º in my room.

Check yourself if I'm measuring wrongly my temps. Both tests have been done with the notepal u3.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/3228488

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LbI0TyNBqYOEYteWFPRllrZVk/edit?usp=sharing





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And after that heavy 3dmark bench here you have a 3dmark11 run, like Genntech's video.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_LbI0TyNBqYdTV1bWwyWS04UXM/edit?usp=sharing

lol

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yes because i can move away a hand little bit or adjust blown air upward with a little piece of cardboard (i know i have gx640 with fan on the right) but you can´t move keyboard
best solutions in upward but msi has not so educated people yet

but there is one hint.. a man can buy external numpad for 15€ (put it in usb and place long before exhaust) and play on this

i have pro with i5, dont see any diferences on benchmark (crysis 3 and bf4 played on max with 20 - 30 fps)

pro - samsung screen is best i ever seen, not pro one have some cheep chi mei screen , screen is strongest adut for me to buy pro, i tested gs60pro with same screen (leave it back because numpad was shrinkd and price was almost dubbled, i found apache i5 pro in germany for 900€ without os, gs was 1600)

 

I've been asking people on the forums and they say, i7 will be better for the future. so I really dont know

Could you please test Watch Dogs on your pro

Do you feel somehow lack of power from the processor during work or so? I guess no, but maybe

Also point is, more games in the future will need 4 cores. Is it that critical?

 

do anybody know how to stop laptop wake up on usb mouse movement? if i just move a mouse little bit it wake up, there is nothing in bios to stop it or i can´t found it

 

Go with the Pro. On games the CPU won't matter.

 

Does anyone know if the temperatutures of the i5 version are any better than i7 version?

 

google, i saw somewhere somebody tasted i5 vs i7 in games, no difference, maybe sometimes 1 frame up or down... in office tasks, web, youtube, i5 is quick (especially with ssd) so you can't see difference
I don´t have watch dogs so I can´t test it
future safe? I think a laptop changes nowadays each 3 years and it should be hold a 3 years with i5 and gtx 860

 

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no, it is gpu which produce mass of heat in games, on idle or simple tasks laptop is cool so no differences
if you open back lid and lift a back of laptop by 15 cm temp is reduced by 10 degrees (93 to 83) on gaming

 

Ok. Now you should do it without notepal u3.

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Without any cooling notepal, 80° max in CPU running intel XTU benchmark.

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How? Most of the people here report 90!!

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Are you sure? in notebookcheck there is a review of a Clevo with it and a i5 and the temps are pretty decent
Review Clevo W650SJ (Schenker M504) Barebones Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

 

I swear it, but again, have to say that my mate's Apache was about 10° warmer with the same conditions.

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Still i think i5 doing less heat. Thinking logically: i5 and i7 have the same cores but i7 have twice of it. if it's full loaded i think 4 cores will do more heat then 2.

Yo're doing something wrong with stress testing. It's really impossible!

 

It is the same thinking as i i have, but would be great a a i5 version owner help me with that

 

XTU is a very stressful benchmark. The dual cores have the same power density meaning that temperatures can be similar even if power draw is different.

 

BTW it needs to be tested, and one more interesting factor is maximum undervoltage.

And, guys, maybe anyone know how to undervoltage GPU? Or maybe CPU from bios, not from XTU?

 

It's already been tested by HTwingnut on another platform.

Voltage options could only come from an unlocked system bios.

 

And where i can get this unlocked bios?

 

would you run 3d mark fire strike without cool pad and check gpu temp, I get 93 and without back lid 87, with cooling pad 80

 

I check just 3dmark because I need laptop for gaming and because heatsink of gpu and cpu are connected to same fan, heat can go in both direection I mean gpu can do cpu warmer and diverse. It depend on what test you run and what part is cooler/warmer

 

How to stop laptop wake up on usb (when mouse is moved)????

 

Yes, that is why i was wondering if the i5 would run cooler

 

80 with cooling pad and without lid or with it?
And what cooling pad do you use?

 

So we need the i5 owner with twsts %)

 

But you are running only firestrike? I have to run all the test, it doesn't let me run only one of them. I'll run without the cooling notepad now if you say me how to do only the firestrike bench

 

Yes, we do, i have to change my laptop and i am not going to buy the i7 version because of the temps, but if there i5 version temps are good...

 

Less cores does not really mean less heat ... especially when we are talking about i5-4200M and i7-4700MQ
Both CPUs have same TDP(47W) what means there is not huge difference in temperatures, max deflection should be 5°C not more.

 

No, 4200m is 37W, 4700 is 47W, the one that is 47W too is the 4200h.

Also there is the review of that clevo with the 4310m (which is also 37W) on notebookcheck and the temperatures are quite better than the other two reviews with i7 laptops

 

without, some targus with 2 small fan

 

I run all to, but yesterday 3dmark uppdates via Steam and now I can choose which one, so uppdate yours or run all, wait until fire strike is over and read max temp.

 

Nah mistake on my side, i meant 4200H which is being sold in lower versions so there's no difference anyways

 

After a 3dmark11 run....



These temps are without any cooling pad and 26° in my room, way toastier GPU temps and pretty good CPU max temps.

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845M in HWmonitor? Hmm

 

This or lenovo y510p which one heats more?

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I have tested a few laptops last two months. Alla of them - I5,I7, gt750m, gtx870, gtx860, gtx850 are quite an cool on idle, simple tasks - web, hd video, you can even stop a fan on all and get 48 - 58 degrees....
all of them was really warm bettwen 82-93 when playing games, some more some less, some noisy to, so a few degrees upp or down shouldn´t define which one... look at screen, keybord and other important things for you, it vill be toasty on games anyway

 

But my GE60pro is overheating and downclocking when iam gaming. My 860M works at 850mhz when iam playing MetroLL. So i payed for one perfomance level, but iam getting totally different. MSI is cheating on me.

 

what temps you get when playing and where you see it downclocking?

use nvidia inspector and undervol gpu till minimum maybe it helps a little

 

Hello to all,

I'm new to the forum but now I present to you my problem:

while I play any games when the battery is connected games go perfectly, when the battery is disconnected shows a drop of frames that rises and falls. I checked with msi after burner and under my video card (Ggtx860m) goes to 35% and after 95% and then again 35%. This problem causes loss frame. you know why only with the battery connected this problem does not happen?

thanks in advance to all and I apologize to my English

 

Hits 93 on GPU and then starts to downclocking. CPU hits 93-95 and turboboost turns off, this is with -90mv in XTU. I need to reduce turboboost multipliers to get 90c in WoT or MetroLL.
And i bought NotePal U2+, but it doesnt help at all.

Nvidia inspector doesnt tweak voltages for GE60, and i dont know how to enable voltage tweaks.

As you see, my situation is very bad.

 

It's all when AC adpter is connected?
Also you dont have to unplug your battery when you're using your laptop. Battery works like UPS.