***The Official MSI GT 70 w/GTX-680M Owner?s Lounge***

Has anyone else noticed that the Newegg Dragon GT70 0NE-609US model has only a 1 year parts and a 1 year labor warranty while at Gentech the GT70 0NE 446US is 2 years?

Limited Warranty period (parts): 1 year
Limited Warranty period (labor): 1 year

Newegg.com - MSI GT Series GT70 0NE-609US Notebook Intel Core i7 3630QM(2.40GHz) 17.3" 16GB Memory DDR3 1600 750GB HDD + 256GB SSD HDD 7200rpm BD Burner NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M

One year is the normal Global warranty time.

 

Nah, it's the standard MSI warranty. NewEgg is renown for typo errors. (2 Years Limited Warranty, Includes 1 Year Global Warranty)

GT70 0NE-609US (click the 'Specifications' tab)

 

in my case, the notebook was fixed. the RMA procedure was pretty smooth and fast. But now, i'm always adraid to close the lid . So I close it like it was a piece of glass. I don't trust it anymore even though the inge was changed.

 

@ killersquid,

Just curious..... Did you happen to see this thread?

Reports of GT70 series notebook top-lid hinge seizing....

This thread was created on your behalf, and to track how prominent this issue becomes. At present this seems very rare, and there are only 5 known reported cases. Did you take any photos of your event, and if so, could you please post your images?

 

Hi, No I did not because i stopped closing the lid when i heard the crunch. . so the damage was inside the lid itself.
besides seing 10-15 mini black plastic pieces falling down, there was no external damage worth taking pictures.
Also, i had to ship the notebook with the lid openned, so it was quite a packaging experience . Sorry I could not be of more help.

 

Did you pay for shipping when you did the RMA when it wasn't your fault but a defect? If you did then that is BS because you already paid lots of money for this and you are not supposed to pay extra money for something that wasn't your fault.


I heard the keyboard on the GT70 suffers ghosting horror issue? Is it true and can someone test the popular W-E-SPACEBAR, W-Q-SPACEBAR and W-Q-D combination. These three key combination are crucial for WoW and some other MMO and Counter-Strike.

Thanks

 

A new BIOS update was released yesterday. Does anybody know what it does?

 

E1762IMS.70T.zip? Interesting!

MSI just released a bios update 13 Nov., and now they are releasing this new version described as a 'First Release'. I don't see any release notes in the .ZIP file, but I can't wait to try this one out. Perhaps this resolves the TDE issue..... but maybe not. They released new EC firmware on the 19th too, but this seems to be specific to the WIN 8 OS only..... so this may be the case for the new bios as well.

KEN, do you know anything about this release?

 

I just tested one GT70 with Windows 7 unit and updated to 70T and it worked.

However, because all MSI notebooks shipped with Windows 7 the BIOS does not have UEFI enable and the Windows 8 BIOS does. therefore, if you update new BIOS you will have to go to Boot and change to boot from Legacy mode instead of UEFI and go to security tab and disable secure boot, otherwise BIOS won't detect Windows 7 boot loader in your hard drive.


The E1762IMS.70T.zip does not include BIOS flash program for DOS, so you need to download this one here:

MSI Global – Download Center

and copy E1762IMS.70T file into the E1762IMS.30Q extracted folder.

I asked MSI they said the new 70T fixs issues with Windows 8.

Here is the release note but says nothing, probably MSI HQ still updating it:


BIOS vesion: 7.XX is for RAID 0 SKU


New BIOS: E1762IMS.70T

;------ Description ------;

1. First release.
---------------------------------------------------

 

In other words, these updates are specific to WIN 8 models, and do nothing to benefit WIN 7 models.

 

Well they benefit those of us with win 7 models who upgraded to win 8

 

Yes pretty much.

 

Unless you want to upgrade of course.

 

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I know...... Resistance is futile..... You WILL be assimilated!

OK, like I really needed to know that. I already have my WIN 8, but ya know, some of just refuse to do the dirty deed. I really liken it as Vista was to XP, and like WIN 7, WIN 9 will be it's fix. From what I've seen of WIN 8 thus far, I'm not sure I'm interested in the headaches. If I do fool with it, it'll probably just be to tinker on a dual-boot system.

 

To those of you trying to overclock the CPU/GPU at the same time you are running into a power limit, I hit it with the P150EM too.

180W adaptors fall over when the real power consumption is going north of 200W lol.

You need to modify and fit a 230W adapter if you want to go further.

 

will it be ok if i leave it to stock graphics and cpu settings without any overclock?
will i still be able to play diablo 3 on max and battlefield 3 on max?
i am using gt70 with gtx 680m..

i am a noobie, i do not know how to overclock..
therefore, i am leaving it to stock..
will it still be a powerful laptop?

 

Had some time with this notebook now.
Installed Windows 8 yesterday and boy did it take some time to download those drivers from MSI with 100kb/s
I also installed two firmwares, one for CPU table another one that had no description that was uploaded by MSI November 19th. Boy it was scary lol. When flashing the fan suddenly went on 1000% speed and the flashing sequence in DOS was weird "WWWWW, XXXXXX etc etc". So if you haven`t flashed yours yet, its available now. I also noticed new BIOS for the GT70 but I think I`ll pass unless there is something very crucial about them, which there never really is... What does these firmwares do btw?

Few things I`ve noticed though:
- The fan is always on when not gaming. There is very cold air coming out and I`m 100% shure that one could easily lower the RPM of the fan a little while still maintaining a cool notebook. Are there any way to do that? Any programs? That said, the fan noise is pleasant. Not a high pitched whine but a whooosh which isn`t that bad. And its not high or especially noisy either. Its just that it can be better than this
- There is a high frequency noise coming out of my PSU. I don`t like it, but I guess its just something I have to learn to live with?
- Cool LED lights of the keyboard. Takes some time to get them on, 5s after Windows is loaded though, but very cool lights

 

You bring up an interesting point! Since there is now a win 7 only bios and a win 8 only bios does that mean a GT70 can't safely dual boot both OS? Or if one is dual booting
which bios is more compatible with both OS...

 

Silly me, about the touchpad scrolling, I was pushing out too far to the edge. Works like a charm now

 

Yeah, that is a good point, but like I say, I am not in a rush to WIN 8 anyhow. It's still yet to be determined what the new WIN 8 bios changes exactly. GEEZ, speaking of new bios, just yesterday MSI released yet another for the WIN 7 models, LOL! Looks like this one is basically just bringing in support for the new NVidia 'MX' series gpu's.

E1762IMS.30P.zip

1.Add GTX670MX GTX675MX market name
2.Add N14PQ1 N14PQ3 market name
3.Add PXE OpROM seclection in BSU
4.Support GTX670MX GTX675MX OC functionNote: For “RAID” Systems use only
For "RAID" Systems use only.
For Win7 Systems use only.



@Cloudfire

The Embedded Controller is usually dedicated to controlling the computer's Input/Output systems. Through the firmware code, the manufacturer can change any number of things related to I/O function. In the case of the latest firmware for WIN 7 models, they have updated the CPU Fan Control Tables. For the latest and recent update for WIN 8 models, they only specify 'First Release'. Since you have upgraded to WIN 8, I would go with this version:

1762EMS1504.zip

 

LOL I went with both. First the CPU table, then the "first release". CPU table said "N/A" under the OS so I reckon it was for both Win7 and Win8.

Anyhow, I`m ditching this Windows8. Have used it for 3 days now and it gives me a major headache. Worst OS ever!

 

I`m back to Windows 7 again and will NEVER let it go.

Hate Windows 8 and everything about it

 

I have a win8 disc but I haven't tried it... is it THAT bad?

 

Lol talking about hate

 

It's very different, i'm unconvinced about the ui but like the under the hood changes.

 

I have used pretty much every Windows that Microsoft have made. And 100% honest, Windows 8 is the worst Windows OS I have ever tried. Windows ME was worse since it crashed all the time, but if you look at when it worked, 8 is much worse.
Metro is seriously disgusting to look at. I don`t understand the point of having to force users to use Metro when most of us prefer Desktop view you have in Windows 7 and will use that anyway. Yes you can select "desktop" view, but like all other functions within Windows 8, its just another mouse click to accomplish something you get automatically with Windows 7 without the hassle.

People boasted the Task manager like it was totally awesome compared to previous versions, but it was a huge MEH to me and I didn`t see nothing amazing in particular.
The way you close programs are retarded. The way you browse from program to program is retarded too.
Booting to safe mode was really difficult to do, since core functions like this are hidden deep within the system to discourage us even more. You also have to remember where you found it, if not, you will be stuck in a infinite loop of safe mode without getting out of it...
Dedicated "Messages" button on a PC version, REALLY? When was the last time you sent a SMS from a PC?
You have other buttons in Metro like "Stock News", "News" and "Weather". . Something that belongs on a touch pad not a PC. Yes I know you can unpin them from Metro but still, why include it as stock function to PC?
Power off the computer and basically browsing within Windows is totally different from other versions of Windows.

There are tons of other stuff I didn`t like too. And believe me I wanted to like this OS since I bought the $120 OEM version, but every fiber in my body resist this piece of junk. There are people who like it though. Seems to me like Windows 8 is more of a hate or like OS although I`m pretty shure the majority is on the hate side.

Have fun testing it out. Im enjoying my Windows 7 and will continue to do so until Microsoft release a new Windows 9

 

I am more intrigued rather than excited. I know it looks extremely like a mobile/tablet or touch device OS and that does bother me. Accomplishing tasks in smartphone etc is much different from PC OSs, as well as a much dumbed down experience. I hated the whole "app" monkier when it's just another program you install, now it's hip and cool and new (when it was just a facelift...).

I guess it is a matter of general public perception, when the majority of consumers are computer illiterate and want something simple. I can understand that.

I will give it a try but I am indeed afraid. I like the current Win7 use and functionality without much hassle on the UI to do things on it.

 

@Cloudfire :thumbsup:

Hmmmmm, I wonder whom else feels the same about WIN 8?

 

It's certainly change, i'm trying to keep an open mind making sure it's not just me disliking having to change my habits rather than genuinely disliking the layout, but I am usually pretty quick with these things and it still jars me.

 

Hey guys, I'm new the the forum. I just bought a 609 with the Dragon designs oOoOoOo lol. I bought it from newegg and it was a 60 dollar difference than the 446 and I figured it was readily available so I did the ole click/buy. The only difference, from what I can see (besides the ultra super dragon design and super sick backpack) is that the 609 will be using Windows 8 64 bit as opposed to just Windows 8 on the 446; at least that is what the comparison on the MSI website says. Hope to give you guys an update in the next few weeks

 

Msi wont bother with 32bit windows 8. All their machines will be 64bit. Only difference is maybe normal or pro.

 

yeah, I had to pay shipping to send it to them and they paid the shipping back, like all offsite RMA products .
Even after 2 weeks that it came back, I still dont trust those hinges ! I Like the MSI notebook so far but I really miss my previous robust Alienware M17x

 

This is the first hinge issue I have ever heard of with MSI.

 

You can find the thread for this hinge issue for GT70 in the forum. It's been there for a while.

 

My hinge cover mysteriously popped off pulling the laptop out of the bag. Then i noticed some small tabs that were broken both on the case and the hinge cover.

It's not as extreme as the hinges ripping the case apart...but it's clear to me there are could be some improvement in this area.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

 

Indeed. For an expensive gaming rig it is intolerable to have a poor build quality. Strange that it only happens to 17" model. Glad I take the 15" version...

 

This hinge issue should certainly be looked into by MSI, but I think it's a bit premature to start bashing the build quality of the notebook. Considering the volume of production and global sales, this issue seems relatively rare. I know of only 6 known cases of this, and further information can be found in this thread, HERE. I should also note that the GT780 and GT783 series have the same lid and hinge construction, and I know of no such cases within these series. As such, these cases are somewhat isolated, and I suggest we not start with the drama, making 'mountains-out-of-mole hills'.

@gonzorito,

Could you please review the related thread noted above. If this issue applies to you, please post your input there.... and validating with photos would be great. Thx!

 

Hey lads/ladies,

Newbie here just wanting your advice on these MSI laptops.

Im getting a new laptop because my Qosmio kicked the bucket. I've pretty much decided im getting the MSI laptop listed below (link) but have a couple questions that you may be able to answer..

http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs013...iter-Windows-8-HDMI-BT-802-11b-g-n-eSATA.html

1. Is this MSI's top of the line gaming laptop?
2. The dual SSD - are these mSATA ssds or two single SSD?
3. Either way, which is better for gaming?
4. If these are two mSata SSD's, is there room to install my own SSD? is it worth it?
5. Can i install Windows and games on these mSATA ssd's? Will the manufacturer have already installed windows on the ssd for me?

Sorry for the "rookie-ness" but this forum seems to be the most helpful forum i can find.

Let me know what you think.

 

Please refer to the lead post of the thread...... HERE!

 

Thanks Striker - this answers some questions but not all

 

Yes, its there on the top along with Sager (9150/70EM and Alienware M17x/M18x). MSI have some super great perks like Raid0, best audio system, customizable fan speed, audio boost ++. You can find pro`s about the other systems as well. And cons.

GT70 0NE: Raid0 card installed where you can put in 2xmSATA SSDs.+ Another HDD/SSD bay below by the battery where you can install your own SSD or HDD. This one runs on SATA2. Raid0 card runs on SATA3.
GT70 0NC/D/: No Raid0 card but instead a slot there for your own SSD that you can plug in. Runs on SATA3. + Another HDD/SSD bay below by the battery where you can install your own SSD or HDD. This one runs on SATA2

All SSDs perform equal in gaming. What separates them is the loading speed. Raid0 is great here but the fastest single SSD Samsung 840 pro is faster. Once maps are loaded and you are in the game, you won`t notice anything from a decent SSD to a high end SSD. Nothing goes faster, no more FPS gained.

There are many configurations out there that resellers sell. My GT70 0NE came with 1 mSATA SSD. You can Raid it with an additional mSATA SSD that you put in the same raid0 card as the mSATA SSD that you get from the reseller. Or buy an upgrade from the resellers. There are no SATA3 ports available for you to install your own normal (non mSATA) SSD. I learned that bigtime and have to use my SATA3 SSD (Samsung 840 Pro) on the SATA2 port

Yes, you can install everything you want on these SSDs. mSATA SSD is just like any other SSD, or HDD, only a LOT smaller. Movies, music, textfiles won`t benefit from an SSD since even a normal HDD will load these fast. Programs, games however greatly benefit from SSD because they are loaded extremely fast. Not to mention the operative system. With my SSD (that runs on SATA2) it takes about 10-15s to load in to Windows 7
I don`t know where the resellers or MSI put the OS. Sorry. I removed the HDD and the mSATA SSD the moment I got them and installed my own SSD. I don`t care for Raid or HDD

 

Cloudfire, i cant thank you enough mate. You've answered my questions and then some.

So just reading through the forum, the mSata SSD the laptop i've purchased comes with are good or at least decent but these can be upgraded if required?

 

If I were you, I`d buy the Crucial C400 mSATA, 2x64GB or 2x128GB or 2x256GB whatever you fancy and raid0 them. They are faster than the mSATA SSD you get from MSI

 

So I was looking at the alienware's (that's bumped up in price by quite a bit). and I looked at msi's and for less I get way more and still the 680. So. I thought of this question. How is the warranty customer service and durability of these machines? I already own a m14x and I'm in the market for a larger gaming laptop, between the gt70 and 17x

 

From what i hear and red through a ton of websites, MSI's support is ok - not great but, ok. It's worse for myself as i am in New Zealand and the closest MSI business is in Australia so i can almost guarantee you that i'd have more struggles if things were to go wrong then say someone in America.

 

So after reading all 65 pages I've come to the conclusion that this unit has lots of pros but is marginally powered and has weak hinges. That said, every brand seems to have a con list of varying severity. What I *don't* get is how you owners can tolerate waiting around for MSI to build a new PA. You spent north of $2K and can't overclock and even see throttling at stock levels? Noone has tested an aftermarket power adapter or someone else's brick? Throttlestop is ingenious but I can't help picture a scorch mark on the floor where your stock 180 watt PA's used to be! Is this all there is?

 

Actually I am using pau1ow's custom 300W PSU and the salt vBIOS ... and no weak hinges here, everything works perfectly, gaming at insane levels and having fun

 

220W you meant I know it's big but still !

 

It's a 220? Everyone lists it as a 180. It's relevant because I thought the Sager NP9170 had the advantage of a more powerful power supply (it's a 220) otherwise I'll drop the Sager from consideration. Can you tell me more about your custom PSU?

 

Possibly another noob question:
How's everyone keeping there GT70 cool?
Cooling pads?
Xpads?