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    The Official MSI GT60/70 970m/980m Upgrade Thread

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Talon, Nov 10, 2014.

  1. omega939

    omega939 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks Fida for that info... By the way I've been so busy nowadays.. Just look on the first 20 pages you'll find my answer's to your question's :D
     
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  2. FidaGillani

    FidaGillani Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, I used 350.12 (Downloaded from nVidia) with default Clevo vBios in GTX 980m to overclock using MSI Afterburner.
     
  3. FidaGillani

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    Actually, thanks to all of you who really made it possible to play BF4 online Max settings and 80+ FPS :)
     
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  4. omega939

    omega939 Notebook Evangelist

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    I modified the inf drivers for the 350.12. I don't think that you can just click any new NVidia drivers for the ivy bridge GT 60/70 nb's. but for msi gt series with sandy bridge the story is different. mxm vcards are 100% upgreadeable without using any modified inf drivers.
     
  5. Alex1933

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    guys where can i find the 51x bios for ivy bridge version of GT70 . I still have the first bios version on the notebook the 50U version. Should i upgrade to 50x first ? or should i upgrade directly to 51x ? Thanks in advance
     
  6. Bailante

    Bailante Notebook Geek

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    I think Svet from MSI forums for a small donation can create you a customized 51x.
    You can also ask him about the order of the update and all that (I updated directly from 50V to 71x and theb had to change back to ACHI from raid :)
     
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    You still need to mod your inf if the card is clevo. Only MSI vbios is full plug and play.
     
  8. Talon

    Talon Notebook Virtuoso

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    This depends on the laptop model and laptop SYSTEM BIOS version. In my case of my old GT60 2OD with the latest MSI System BIOS, I could use any vBIOS for the 970m available and all installed without any custom INFs or changes. It was 100% plug and play on any vBIOS.
     
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  10. alabri

    alabri Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm sorry for the late reply.
    To backup your Vbios use Nvflash.... i think the command called -b VBios.rom .
    I don't use modded driver.
    I think you have found the prema Vbios.
    https://biosmods.wordpress.com/ ====> Prema mod website

    All credit goes to him
     
  11. FidaGillani

    FidaGillani Notebook Consultant

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    Actually, I flashed Prema vBios but every now and then the GPU light would turn orange even though there is no such app using GPU. And then after sometime sound of the laptop would stop. Then I have to restart the laptop and everything becomes fine. So, I tried to flash back the default Clevo vBios using nvflash but nvflash keep crashing. To flash vBios, I first disable the GTX 980m driver from device manager and then used command prompt (admin) to run nvflash using command nvflash rom_file -6 but it keep crashing. I am using version 5.165
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes maxwell needs to be disabled in device manager to stop crashing if you are going to flash it. This happens to all systems.
     
  13. FidaGillani

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    I did disable GTX 980m from device manager but still it keeps crashing. Can somebody elaborate the process of vbios flashing using nvflash
     
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    Prema gives a batch file with his vbios, use that.
     
  15. FidaGillani

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    I used that batch file to flash Prema vBios. Now, I want to revert back to default Clevo vBios
     
  16. Talon

    Talon Notebook Virtuoso

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    I know it may sound crazy but a fix for this issue for me has always been to re flash the system bios over itself. Occasionally it seems something goes bad and Nvflash stops working/flashing the vBios.

    I've had 2 MSI systems have Nvflash stop working after flashing a vBios and a system bios flash usually fixes it.
     
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    maybe I'm over-thinking this....but from what I'm understanding in this message, this 51x bios should work even in my GT70 0ND-219US? From what I've seen on the official page the bios are pretty old that they have up (w7 is 10u/30u and w8 is 50X/70X)
     
  18. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    It's very likely to be the same thing except the BIOS itself could have been locked due to security.
    As Bailante said, contact Svet and see if he can help with the BIOS update.
     
  19. FidaGillani

    FidaGillani Notebook Consultant

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    Interesting, I'll try the DoS based method and if it didn't work, I'll flash BIOS. It's just flashing BIOS makes me nervous :)
     
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    I've sent Svet an email asking for assistance. I'll update here based on the response.

    I've got the card (pysically) installed successfully (shipments came in early!) and disabled driver signatures, now just to get bios working so the machine will detect the card for driver installation.

    I'll post up pics soon :)
     
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  21. FidaGillani

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    Congrats. This means you've successfully installed the nVidia drivers :).
     
  22. alabri

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    Hello guys
    I have upgraded my win from win7 64bit to win8.1 64bit.
    Also, I updated my bios when I was using win 7 to the latest.
    But there is a new update and I want to update it to the latest update.

    So what should I use E16F4IMS.51A or E16F4IMS.11A

    now I have E16F4IMS.118

    Thanks
     
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  23. bebopfox

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    I think I may have worded my post a bit wrong to make it sound like everything was done. I've physically got the card installed, but the MOBO isn't detecting that there is a card. However, I got a reply from Svet and this is what he is saying:

    So apparently all I need to do now is flash it using (I believe) the .51X bios that Talon uploaded? Its either a win-all or fail-all at this point.......

    ...speaking of which, is there a tool everyone uses for flashing? I've attempted to flash my bios in the past (to update it with official releases of course) and the method that MSI says to use (formatting usb drive as floppy, putting files on drive then typing in dos commands to run said files) does not seem to want to work correctly as it seems to make my computer think I have no drives available to set.

    Pictures from the operation:
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  24. snowmanboy

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    Hello all. I've recently purchased a GTX 970m graphics card.
    I modified my heatsink and installed it.
    Once I booted my computer I proceeded by attempting to install the latest nvidia driver which was 350.12.
    After about 4 seconds of running the driver it says "NVIDIA installer cannot continue, This graphics driver could not find compatible graphics hardware."
    I looked in device manager and listed under "display adapters" is "standard VGA graphics adapter".
    If anyone has any idea of how to fix or any helpful suggestions to sling my way I would greatly appreciate it.

    - Possibly Helpful Information -
    - Just did a fresh install of windows 7 64bit home premium, tried installing the driver before updating all the drivers and after with the same results.
    - My laptop is a MSI gtx780dxr. My bios version is E1761IMS V3.0H
    - I have not manipulated nor have I tried to install any bios or video bios.
    - I tried to install multiple inf modified driver's that talon provided on his page 1 link of this forum. "NVIDIA installer cannot continue"

    If there is any more information you would like from me I will be glad to give it to you.
    Thanks! Have an awesome day!

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  25. floydstime

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    This thread is for the GT70/GT60, so I am not sure if it would apply to your system. Usually a card not being recognized has to do with the bios. I know that the GT60/GT70's issue of not seeing the card can be solved by updating the bios, but you seem to have the most recent bios release. So I don't know what advice I could provide you other than trying to add the device ID to the nvidia driver. I will post a guide on how to do that below.
     

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  26. Talon

    Talon Notebook Virtuoso

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    DOS method of flashing Maxwell does not work if I remember correctly. But you're welcome to try.

    I know it sounds weird but the system BIOS reflash should fix this issue for you and you can once again flash at your discretion in windows using nvflash.
     
  27. Talon

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    I have sent you a PM, and hopefully we will have you up and running on that 970m and enjoying games in no time. Congrats on the 970m its a beast!
     
  28. karasahin

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    Hey Talon, can I use this BIOS for my barebone (GT70 MS1763) too?

    Are these thermal pads available to buy in eBay? They seem have a great conductivity. Also I hope they don't scatter like dough as the stock ones.
     
  29. Talon

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    No! This BIOS is for a GT60/70 laptop of Ivy bridge generation laptops. Do no flash this BIOS unless you want to brick your laptop.


    You should not need a different BIOS for 970m or 980m to work.
     
  30. floydstime

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    That is the last I heard. Something up with NVflash not working. Don't know the details, but I have heard the same thing.
     
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    So to any other users who have a GT70 0ND or 0NC, I am nearly done and here is what I've got in terms of info to share.

    Warning: a recovery flash will not work after this so make sure everything goes perfectly and you are sure you want to go through with this bios flash.

    GT70 0ND/0NC need to do a cross-platform to the bios that Talon has posted. This must be done in pure dos or else the system will brick.

    The same must be done for the EC. After the AHCI bios has been installed, the laptop may cut its power off upon restart the first few times. If it continues to happen, unplug the power cord and battery for a few seconds then try again. Upon a successful boot you'll notice that your laptop is now showing up as a GT60. This is normal and is due to the bios that is used.

    The EC should be flashed the same way.

    Here is where I'm currently stuck... I need to complete the process by flashing the EC. Problem is that the laptop isn't displaying my flash drive that I used (and have not changed) for the AHCI flash. The only options I see are 2 Bigfoot boots, the disc drive and the main hdd drive. Does the GT60 bios handle USB flash drive boot options differently?
     
  32. karasahin

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    You're right, I misunderstood. :) I have Haswell CPU. So the GT60/70 barebone users with Ivy Brigde won't be able to upgrade to GTX 970M/GTX980M. Because as I understand x51 BIOS version is needed and if they do the laptop will brick. What should they do?
     
  33. Talon

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    51X is for Ivy bridge systems and I haven't heard of anyone bricking their system by flashing it... Its a unreleased bios version that allows for the installation of 970m and 980m GPUs into Ivy Bridge GT60/70 laptops.
     
  34. karasahin

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    But MSI says their retail BIOS is not for their barebones and is not supported. Will it be okay?
     
  35. Talon

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    I'm aware of that, but users have flashed this BIOS version to their barebones systems and have had success. As always the user takes all risk when attempting this and its up to them to determine if they want to do it.

    People mess things up when flashing their systems. Either something goes wrong in the flashing process, or they have some sort of user error that leads to a bad flash. Nobody can tell you for certain if you attempt a flash nothing bad will happen. You always assume the risk when doing anything to your laptop. I recommend you research how to flash your particular laptop, follow the recommended procedures exactly, and take your time.
     
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    Talon is officially the man. He took the time out of his day to help me fix my problem with no other motivations than just being a really cool person. Thanks so much man, you rock.
     
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    Hello guys, I’m new here. I own a MSI 16f3 barebones and I followed the guide on the first page to upgrading to a GTX 980M which I bought from HID Evolution; (the MSI GT72 upgrade kit). I updated my system bios to 51x successfully and I updated the EC firmware as well. GPU-z, CPU-z, and NVidia inspector all recognize the card and I was able to install NVidia drivers without any problems. However, I cannot get the card to function like it should. On the MSI GT60 laptops there is a thing where on the power button the light is orange when the NVidia GPU is in use and turns white if the Intel GPU is in use. Well mine constantly stays orange which would mean that the NVidia GPU is in use but that’s not the case because when I try to play games I only average about 15 FPS. It’s like optimus isn’t working. So I came up with this crazy idea of trying to get this GTX 980M to work. I reinstalled my previous GTX card which is a GTX 880M, reinstalled the drivers for that card, then removed the card from my laptop and installed the GTX 980M while keeping the drivers from the GTX 880M installed and low and behold the GTX 980M started function like it should with optimus and everything and being able to play games at high FPS on ultra-settings. Now here’s the thing, if I go ahead and install the drivers directly to the GTX 980M it doesn’t work, it malfunctions. But if I put my GTX 880M in the laptop and remove it and then put in the GTX 980M it works like it should. So my question is why doesn’t the GTX 980M work like it should when I install drivers directly to it? Why does it need to feed of my GTX 880M left overs? I want to find a way to fix this because I want to sell the GTX 880M and not have it sit around for assisting me in getting the 980M to work when it should be doing it on its own. Please help me
     
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    What bios are you using?
     
  39. bebopfox

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    So I've gotten the video card to show up by using the nvflash on it (thus changing it to the msi rom 6GB) then installing the nvidia driver through the geforce experience software.
    I can't seem to get temperature readings though.... I'm attempting to use HWInfo and nothing is listed beside the GTX 970m for temps or even clock speeds.
    Did I miss a step?
    The only thing I can think of is that when I attempt to run the EC flash, I get an error saying:
    "Target board FileName is different"
    Though this is the same EC file that was included in the zip drive that housed the bios...

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  40. Aladin Thomas

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    I am using the 51x bios for the system. As for the card, I am using the original MSI vbos that it came with
     
  41. omega939

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    Eh guys question.... Is it normal if your drivers is not whql certified, under dxdiag, " Renderer" won't show up? Or if you have any ideas, suggestions will be appreciated... Thanks

    [​IMG]
     
  42. alabri

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    Can someone reply to me? please

    Hello guys
    I have upgraded my win from win7 64bit to win8.1 64bit.
    Also, I updated my bios when I was using win 7 to the latest.
    But there is a new update and I want to update it to the latest update.

    So what should I use E16F4IMS.51A or E16F4IMS.11A

    now I have E16F4IMS.118

    Thanks
     
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  43. alabri

    alabri Notebook Enthusiast

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    here is mine. It might help you
    http://prntscr.com/70zvp9
     
  44. zipperi

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    You mean the Nvidia card? DXDiag doesn't know a sh#t about it on Optimus setups.
     
  45. bebopfox

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    So.....I've got the card installed, Svet has assisted me with getting the EC Flash fixed (apparently some modifications needed to be done) but it looks as though the MSI 970 6GB flash (using the file in the initial post) doesn't want to allow my card to install with any windows 7 drivers. When I type in the device ID of it in the driver/inf page, the only results I can get back are for Windows 8. Is there a variant of the vbios flash that sets it to W7 device ID?

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  46. bebopfox

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    Typically a bios update is something that you shouldn't need to do when a new one comes out. They should only be done if your system is messing up/can benefit from it. Now, in this particular case I'm not sure if you'll get any benefits. If you already have updated your laptop and have everything working, I would recommend just keeping bios as-is.
     
  47. Talon

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    The windows 8 drivers will install fine on Win7. Download the drivers and nvdispi file. Attemp the install and it should fail. Copy and paste the nvdispi file in the display.driver folder (You are replacing the stock one with the one you downloaded from laptop2go). Now restart and hit F8 upon restart to disable digital driver signature before trying to install again. Navigate to the temporary install folder created by the nvidia drivers, and fine the setup.exe and run as admin.
     
  48. zipperi

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    All recent drivers are identical in being compatible on Vista/Win7/Win8/Win8.1 and even Win10. Except the latest 352.63 is Win10 only.
     
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    After doing this, device manager shows the gtx970 as: "Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware. The driver may be corrupted or missing. (Code 39)"

    nview option shows in my right-click menu but nothing shows up when I click it. Launching a game and it seems like it is still trying to use the processor as the only display device
     
  50. alabri

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    Thanks man
    but I still want to do some testing.
     
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