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    The Sky's the limit..... The New SkyLake GT72S, with desktop 980 GPU!

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Oct 2, 2015.

  1. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    It's HERE! FINALLY what I have been waiting for..... next-gen tech, taking notebooks to the next level!

    The desktop nVidia GTX980 w/ 8GB GDDR5, 6th Gen Intel Skylake 14nm unlocked Core-i7, DDR4 2133MHz system memory, PCIe Gen-3 X4 SSDs, Mobile Intel® CM236 Express Chipset...... what's not to like!

    This is a BEAST folks! GIT Ur Game On, and Prepare To Dominate!

    The MSI GT72S DominatorProGDragon-004
    AND, for those of us who must have ULTIMATE Weapons of Mass Destruction, wait till you see how the GT80 evolves..... COMING SOON! I've already put my money where my mouth is (pre-ordering my pre-order ;)), and I expect to own one of the first arriving on U.S. soil..... STAY TUNED, as photos, benchmarks, and initial thoughts will be posted soon.

    :D :D :D
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Oct 2, 2015
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    What's not to like? The price. :D

    Too rich for my blood, but a darn fine system. I'd grab one if I had the money.
     
    superguy25, Oct 2, 2015
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    High price but It is very tempting indeed. I think GTX 980 will really shine with single GPU systems like this one, which has the better cooling systems of the market.
     
    ryzeki, Oct 2, 2015
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    Price? Not bad for the tech, and MSI is competitive..... But, Yep, yep, yep...... you got me there. I suppose some will find the price a bit much. :D

    It's gonna be GOOD! (tempting the Ryzeki.... he KNOWS he wants it)

    :D :D :D
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Oct 2, 2015
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    Pah, I'd suggest it would start here at €4500...
     
    zipperi, Oct 2, 2015
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    Finally, a gaming machine to save all of mankind.

    Seriously though, whats the heat going to be like on this?
     
    sippelmc2, Oct 3, 2015
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    Well they beefed up the CPU cooling so the 6820hk would be happy, we will see if they do something for the desktop 980 :)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 3, 2015
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    Incredibly impressives specs on this thing can't wait to see some benchmarks
     
    SuperContra, Oct 3, 2015
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    Wonder if the Thunderbolt port can be used for SLI with another 980gtx.
     
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    O wow - congrats! ;) Do you think you could take a few pictures of the inside? Would love to see the GPU on that one!
     
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    I agree, even though MSi makes one of the better machines around (currently topped only by Clevo, because desktop socketed CPUs, not anything else), the pricing has gone ridiculous and EVEN MORE so in Europe.
     
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    MSI has 120W TDP 980s, I've heard.
     
    Kevin, Oct 3, 2015
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    I believe you. 330W PSU, that's all that's really plausible, with slight OC headroom.
     
    Zero989, Oct 3, 2015
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    Ya I'm sure they will be able to control temps, but will it be at the expense of more fan noise? The special edition checks all the boxes for me...and then some ..... just nervous about the GPU especially since it is "first gen" untested. If it looks dicey I'll go for the cheaper 980m and buy my own nvme drives.
     
    sippelmc2, Oct 4, 2015
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    First gen? Not really the core has been round the block a few times now.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 4, 2015
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  16. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Mine will have two GPU's! ;)
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Oct 5, 2015
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    "First gen" in the sense that its made it way into this form factor with all the consequent limitations and new variables, heck ya. I'd think that this would be obvious.
     
    sippelmc2, Oct 5, 2015
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    The 980M is very similar, the board is capable of far exceeding 100W with firmware tweaking, moving up a little in TDP design and core count while maintaining good design margins is not making it a first go around.

    Add that to the fact that MSI have been designing custom PCBs for the full GM204 chip since launch, the core will be fully characterized and most of its little quirks will be understood by the engineers at MSI.

    So I would not count this as engineering a first gen, just like the 680M -> 780M -> 880M were not really generations, just iterations.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 6, 2015
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    The GT72S DominatorPro G-Dragon-004 with Desktop GTX980 is here, still working on review and overclocking capabilities, here are some of the screenshots and benchmarks I've done so far:


    Stock hardware configuration out of the box, I disabled G-Sync just to test the benchmark and the turbo fan was off:

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-3DMark-No-GSync.JPG

    CPU multiplier to 40X at 4GHz, Turbo Fan on:

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-3DMark-No-GSync-OC1.JPG


    The screen is now 75Hz:

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-13.JPG

    The rest of the photos:

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-1.JPG

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-2.JPG
     
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    More photos:

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-3.JPG

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-4.JPG

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-5.JPG

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-6.JPG

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-7.JPG
     
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    And more:

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-8.JPG

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-9.JPG

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-10.JPG

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-11.JPG

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-12.JPG
     
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  22. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    WOW, very nice scores, temps, and noise levels! Thanks Ken, for going the extra mile with all the info and pics! It looks like MSI has really done an excellent job with the new GT72S.

    Now, where the heck is my new next-gen, dual desktop 980, GT80 gaming beast? ;)

    Is it here yet? Is it here yet? Is it here yet? (....jumping up and down with excitement, bout to pee my pants....)

    :D :D :D
     
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    Yes the temperature is surprisingly good and still runs very quiet during benchmark unless you turn on Turbo Fan.

    The PCB on GTX980 is very small so should be the high density and high quality one, we have seen some laptops uses huge and low quality PCBs but that's not the case here. Another thing is the screen is now 75Hz and it's LG IPS. :)

    I am still trying to find the sweet spot for overclocking this beast, the thermal paste on the test is stock so I will try using IC Diamond to see how it performs. :)

    Did you say GT80 with dual desktop 980? it's late here in California so I am going to bed, talk to you tomorrow. :p
     
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    Did I say?..... did I say?.... of course I did! Ok, get your rest, and MAKE IT HAPPEN!

    LOL!

    :D :D :D
     
    -=$tR|k3r=-, Oct 7, 2015
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    Impressive scores, Ken) Does the unit also come with a standart 230W PSU? Is it possible to check the power draw with that overclock you achieved?

    So we can clearly see additional power connector, but no SLI bridge, meaning they might use differend board design for GT80S.
     
    Red Line, Oct 7, 2015
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    Great information and testing results, huge improvement for that machine to test with an 11k score in its stock form. Makes me wonder how many watts is being pulled from the wall also to see if that ends up being your ceiling or the card its self.
     
    GTVEVO, Oct 7, 2015
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    Ken, would it be possible to purchase the new gt72S w/ 980 desktop GPU without that red colored thingie on the back of the display and have it in regular black?
     
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    The adapter still 230W. I will do more tests and let you know.


    And the temperature is very good too. :)


    Unfortunately it only comes with the Red Dragon Edition.
     
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    That's bad. I would have bought it if it wasn't for that tacky design :(
     
    scorpio187, Oct 7, 2015
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    I think photos don't do it justice to be fair.

    Interesting they decided the card does not need the extra power connector in the corner.
     
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    Great info. The machine looks stunning. Would like to see the max temps ion this machine when it is tested o the extreme to actually judge the overclocking and cooling capabilities (CPU and GPU). It that's a check then this is the system to go for.
     
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    Due to the PSU, I doubt overclocking will be viable, only on the CPU side.
     
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    I believe there is an option of selecting the 330W PSU also right?

    edit: Okay my mistake. Its the Clevo that comes with the option of choosing the 330W PSU. I suppose it has to do with the lesser TDP card used i.e the 980? I suppose a 230W PSU will do fine for a 120W card. How large will the difference in performance be is still a question though (80W difference).
     
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    Max temperature has been posted and I believe with 230W PSU that is the highest it can go.
     
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    Double post.
     
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    Gentech PC, thank you for sharing insights.

    But why did you hide the max GPU temp in the 3Dmark screenshot? Can you please share it?
     
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    It wasn't hidden, the max temperature shown on the MSI After Burner and it says 86C. There was too many Windows moving around and wasn't notice one of the Window covered the temperature on HWMonitor, but it will be shown on our review video:

    MSI-GT72S-GTX980-Skylake-17.JPG
     
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    Ken, could you please confirm what skylake GT72S models run their display at 75Hz? Do you think the previous model you reviewed had 60Hz because of drivers or 4Gb VRAM or smth else? Tnx
     
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    Just checked, other GT72S with GTX980M 8GB are all 60Hz as well.
     
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    That's just sad(( but thanks for the heads up!
     
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    Thought I read that was fixed with updated bios acc drivers?
     
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    I can get 100hz with this laptop un csgo?

    Enviado desde mi Nexus 5 mediante Tapatalk
     
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    How this laptop can get full potential of the CPU and GPU with a 230w ac adapter?

    Enviado desde mi Nexus 5 mediante Tapatalk
     
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    Doesn't seem to be the case with other GT72S and don't know why, maybe has something to do with G-Sync.

    Also our detail video review is up, enjoy :)

     
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    WOW! Awesome notebook! Early GT72 models were nice, cool, quiet, and powerful, but now the new GT72S is on steroids and a whole new level of beastliness. Kudos Ken, again for an informative video, and 'thumbs-up' to MSI, for continuing to progress their line with gamer's in mind. :vbthumbsup:

    Speaking of BEAST, where is my new gaming Weapon of Mass Destruction..... the gaming notebook of the Gods, the new next-gen Skylake GT80?

    Is it here yet, is it here yet, is it here yet? :huh:

    I want a minimum of 32Gb DDR4, SLI desktop GTX-980 GPU's, PCIe SSD (SuperRAID 4) primary storage, and a Core i7-6920HQ processor.

    Work your magic, and make it happen Ken!

    :biggrin: :biglaugh: :bigwink:
     
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    double-post.......
     
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    Excellent review. The temps on this machine are great for the kind of performance they would be delivering. Some gaming benchmarks would just make this so much more perfect :D
     
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    It's what I thought the heatsinks could be like when I first saw the internal pictures.
     
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    Where are the internal shots for MXM board and cooling?

    Man they must be using high ASIC chips in order to be able to run a full GM204 @ 1400Mhz with just 0.956v...
     
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    There you go. It was posted by GenTechPC a few pages back.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/msi-gt72s-gtx980-skylake-1-jpg.128230/
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/msi-gt72s-gtx980-skylake-2-jpg.128231/
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/msi-gt72s-gtx980-skylake-3-jpg.128232/
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/msi-gt72s-gtx980-skylake-4-jpg.128233/
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/msi-gt72s-gtx980-skylake-5-jpg.128234/
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/msi-gt72s-gtx980-skylake-6-jpg.128235/
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/msi-gt72s-gtx980-skylake-7-jpg.128236/
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/msi-gt72s-gtx980-skylake-8-jpg.128237/
     
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