Why does MSI disable SpeedShift by default in the BIOS?

I was always under the impression that SpeedShift is a good thing since it allows the CPU to enter the Turbo State/Frequency faster with no lag. So why does MSI disable SpeedShift by default in their BIOS?

This was both on my previous MSI GT73VR Titan Pro and my current MSI GT75 Titan 8RG?

@Prema @Mr. Fox @Falkentyne @Papusan

 

Probably because MSI prefer re-use/hate making changes how their bios should work. See.. Old habits.

But why so upset? Why not run Max speed 24/7/365.

 

Because I don't need to be running @ 4.4+ GHz when watching TooTube

 

I know you still hate it but best to run Throttlestop 8.70 then.
You can enable speed shift in throttlestop and set the exact CPU multiplier range speedshift will use (From 8 to highest turbo ratio; note that the CPU multiplier setting in FIVR window will not exceed the speed shift maximum multiplier ratio!), then set SST (Green) values from 0 (full speed all the time) to 255 (maximum power savings...800 mhz CPU clock unless running at >medium load). 128 is default and balanced.

Another thing:
You can set minimum and maximum speedshift ratio to the exact same value in Throttlestop, to lock the CPU to an exact multiplier. like 8,8=800 mhz at all times.

 

Not a chance bro. Not touching ThrottleStop with a 10 foot pole.

 

You paid $600 for that unlocked i9 BGA Or better say you could have saved $600

You could even put up one profile with crippled clock speed bruh And one for fun And still have two you could play with.

 

Was your issue with throttlestop the task scheduler or disappearing icon bug?
Pretty sure the icon bug is fixed now.

 

Too much work for bro Ultra put up TS in task scheduler. And what disappearing icon? Amd if he get lag without Speed shift... Throw it in the dustbin.

 

I do not trust a programmer who cannot get a simple freakin' button to have a task added so it would startup automatically upon startup neither do I trust a programmer who is so involved and dedicated in developing an awesome app which it is, but cannot get an icon to properly show in the taskbar. It was a hit or miss. Not getting that thing near my system in any way, shape, or form. BIOS overclocking FTW.

 

I have always had the icon where I want it And I put 51x in bios and put what I want in TS. You can have both, bruh.

 

Nah, it's garbage if you're overclocking. It lowers all of my benchmark scores and provide no benefit that I can.

 

ThrottleStop is an awesome product. I have never had a lick of trouble with any aspect of it. It just works, and does a great job at what it is designed to do. And, it increases CPU performance (and benchmark scores). I've never had any issue with the disappearing icon either. It seems there are some issues you encounter with the MSI laptop that I have not seen with any of my machines before. Maybe it is something with the BIOS or EC that is causing you some grief.

 

No bro my experience with it was back in the day when I had a Clevo P870DM. It drove me bananas trying to get the freakin' icon to show up and while I do now how to manually create a startup task which you have taught me, I don't accept that an app at this day an age doesn't have a simple "Startup with Windows" checkbox and be done with it.

 

Strange, that defies all logic of how it's supposed to work according to this: https://www.anandtech.com/show/9751/examining-intel-skylake-speed-shift-more-responsive-processors

 

Read!

You have probably screwed up something. Have always worked for me.

 

You must not have run the system tray cleaner tool. I have rarely had that happen. When I did it was usually on Windows 10 and running that utility immediate corrected that. The problem with the tray icon is not ThrottleStop... it's Windows.

It is a free product that does amazing things and is literally a lifesaver for many people that own screwed up garbage turdbooks that literally cannot function correctly without it. I am very thankful for @unclewebb and ThrottleStop, and I know many others are equally or more grateful for it. Taking 30-60 seconds to create your own task to run at startup shouldn't be a big deal to someone as smart and talented at tweaking things as you are, bro. And, some people (including me) only launch it when they want to use it. I don't want most things running at Windows startup. I disable just about everything at startup that Windows does not need to function. I suppose those whose turdbooks cannot function correctly without probably want it to run automatically at startup, and I could understand why in that case.

I just ran this especially for you, buddy. My Physics score using ThrottleStop in this test was almost 1,000 points higher than the one immediately before without it ThrottleStop. And, to get a similar Physics score without ThrottleStop I have to increase the multiplier from 50 to 52. It works as great with my 7960X as it has with every CPU I have owned since the day I discovered it.

They're comparing a CPU running stock with and without it. Trust me, bro. I have tested the crap out of it trying to get higher benchmark scores and it provides ZERO benefit. And, if you're overclocking it is absolutely a detriment. Lower overclocked benchmark scores need no further testing. It's either on or off, and with it on my overclocked benchmark scores suffer.

 

Is that 16 cores at 5 ghz am I reading that right?

 

Yes. It also runs nicely a 5.2GHz on 16 cores/32 threads. And, notice the system tray icon.

 

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ThrottleStop's tray icon disappears if you allow ThrottleStop to load before a user logs in.

I was able to reproduce this issue every single time.

But if you only allow it to load after a user is logged in, the tray icon shows.

 

I don't have issues with ThrottleStop icon not showing @Ultra Male so long as the task schedule is set right it works every time, if you want i could export my Task Sched for you to import. Just give me a DM bud.

You'll need to to change the Username and possible depending on where your throttlestop is install mine is c:\ThrottleStop but other then that it should make it easier for you.

 

If you are overclocking with speedshift enabled, check throttlestop's speedshift max setting. If the max is set at stock frequency, the OC won't be applied.