Intel's new Wi-Fi Cards detailed on the website

I just got a Nighthawk X10 Router today which cost me USD 680

This is supposed to be the best router out there now with support for the new AD7200

I then switched back to the Intel 9260 card but the speed never exceeds 175 MBPS.

This card is a major fail!

 

Phoenix
Did you try switching the main and aux antennas around?
The markings are reversed from the Killer card.

 

yes of course it's very obvious. the black cable goes on the black arrowed dot and the red cable goes on the blank dot

 

Depends on what review you look on What works best for the neighbor does not mean that it is the best choice for you Both for wifi cards and routers.
https://www.cnet.com/products/netgear-nighthawk-x10-ad7200-smart-wifi-router/review/2/
https://www.tek.no/artikler/test-tp-link-talon-ad7200-vs-netgear-nighthawk-x10/363822/alle

 

wasn't the ORIGINAL configuration (at least basic systems with Killer Nics) with the red cable on the black triangle and the black cable on the white triangle?
I'm 100% sure that was how it originally was.......

 

And j00 trust CNET reviews?

 

Zoom this picture in closely.
You can see the red wire on the far right edge.



This is a stock system.
Intel reversed the positions of black and white triangles even though main and aux are still at the same spot. NO IDEA if this even matters. However I've seen posts where people had bad wireless strength until reversing the cables.

Here's a better one:



Never hurts to check and test.

Be smart. Be like @Papusan

 

Would you trust the so called *best reviewers* if they said newest trash from Dellienware is ranked NR1?

Better pict.

 

Haha Papusan you're slowing down from those brutal Norway winters!
I edited my first post and added an even better picture than yours!

I even repasted and repadded my BGAbook too and got 1C core differentials at 4.5 ghz @ 1175mv non AVX prime small FFT, and 2C difference at 4.7 ghz prime non avx small FFT @ 1238mv.
Why? Because OCD > me.

 

I can even see the text in MY pict This without glasses

 

uuuhhh... my wifi card is under the keyboard... what are these pics of?

(EDIT)

NVM... I just figured it out...

 

I'm gonna do some actual wifi testing and post pics of the results. I connect at 1733 consistently... My endpoints are also plugged into dual gig connections and aggregated at the switch. I suspect that if your equipment isnt capable of this you will never see that sort of speed. Also are you testing speed between local multi-gig devices on the same endpoint or do you just have a single 1gb connection to your devices?

 

hehehehe!! WELL SAID!

I stomp all over my neighbors connections for like a block and a half around me... I dont know how they do ANYTHING with wifi when I add files to my btsync folders.... I quite nearly DDOS my self when I do!

 

I know dude the location where the wires need to go are flipped on the Intel 9260

 

what is that yellow sticker for? i got so irritated with mine I threw it away after chewing it

 

Check his account now

 

Only mecanical protection. Stift and clamps are weak and can easly break of (a lot of clumsy people, bruh - cleaning the innside). See Killer and weak Wifi connection with wire.

Don't touch mine, bruh

 

Don't tempt me. I can answser back if needed This below is only the first touch

Spoiler: Curious?

 

What are you going to do with it?
I was actually waiting for 19260 to upgrade (not going to happen ever, it seems - or at least before they roll out 802.11ay), so stuck with 18260 for now.

 

Well I can't sell it to any of y'all since shipping would cost me thrice the price of the actual card. Remember I'm in Dubai so I'll just let it collect dust or keep it as a backup card.

 

What will the shipping to the Nort pole cost? 50,- NOK? MOORE?

 

@Phoenix I was asking about the router, not the card.

 

OK I"m confused. What do you mean what am I gonna do with it? I'm gonna use it

 

@Phoenix I thought maybe you have some interesting setup, warranting such hardware instead of e.g. X8.

 

oh not really. I just live in a big house and need the max coverage I need. The X8 was about 250 USD cheaper but then I'm like screw it, lemme get the best and not have any buyer's remorse.

what I am noticing so far other than the speedtest.net benchmarks. My internet overall is much snappier than when I was using the ASUS RT-AC88U. 0 lag when connecting to sites and like I just installed Office 2016 via the online download file in less than 2 mins.

I hated the fact that the ASUS RT-AC88U and all other ASUS for that matter sometimes when you reset them to factory defaults, they don't actually do a full reset unless you do the 30-30-30 seconds reset method and lemme tell you that is a pain in the butt to perform especially if you're a person with 0 patience like me

Be smart...be like Phoenix...

 

Then it's at it again, bruh Killer™ Wireless-AC 1550

http://www.killernetworking.com/products/killer-wireless-ac-1550

 

Great!! Can't wait to get my hands on this!

 

Maybe you will get hands on it faster if you opt for Alienware?

From the link... “The first product to come out of Rivet Networks’ new partnership with Intel, the Killer™ Wireless-AC 1550 is the world’s fastest 2x2 11ac wireless networking adapter. Dell’s Alienware laptops be sold with Killer 1550 Wireless networking and MSI will be implementing it as well.”

 

I'll wait for the MSI thank you. I don't trust Mr. Azor's throttling taptops

 

There's a typo. D is missing from Dell's Alienware

Looks like Killer 1550 will be using Intel card.
EDIT: Typo fixed.

 

I know... I put in missed D in my reply. Btw. What is Killer 150 ? Missed 5 ?

 

Do we have confirmation that is the main difference?

So does that mean the 9560 is a higher end version (as we'd expect from the higher number)?

Here are the product briefs:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/wireless-products/dual-band-wireless-ac-9260-brief.html
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/w...t-briefs/dual-band-wireless-ac-9560-brief.pdf

They seem to be about the same price.

 

@HiveMind from my understanding 9560 has electrically different interface and is missing some functionality now included in some latest CPUs.

 

It's interesting - we have one user claiming that it is a big upgrade and another disappointed. Seems to be very much a Your Mileage May Vary type of release.

Thanks. It seems like the 9260 might be the one to get.

 

There may be driver issues, but spec-wise 9260/9560 is a major upgrade, also bringing Bluetooth 5 to PC.

 

Ive had zero issues with the driver. The bluetooth range has also dramatically increased as well. I couldnt be happier.

If you dont have a router that can aggregate multiple 1gb connections to a single device you wont be transferring over about 800megs a sec.....

 

Hi, guys!

Forgive me for breaking into this thread, but I think I really need your input on what I've begun to consider the Intel Wireless AC/Killer Wireless AC "issue."

Here's why:

Yesterday, I ordered my MSI GS63 STEALTH-061 15.6-inch laptop from HIDevolution, and I'm very pleased with the options I chose, most of which couldn't have been made as appropriately (given my needs) without the help of the inimitable Donald S.

The wireless card I chose was the Intel Wireless AC 8265. I chose that over the Killer based on comments, experiences, and feedback I'd read over the past few months about Killer's instabilities on various levels. Apparently, the 1535 worked perfectly for some and was a nightmare for others. I wasn't able to find the same level of happy vs. disgruntled among customers who opted for the Intel 8265; the full majority were happy campers. So I asked for the Intel to avoid the possibility that I might end up having trouble with Killer if I chose that.

This morning, I noticed that HIDevolution added the two newest versions for Intel (the 9260) and Killer (the 1550), and I e-mailed Donald to ask if the 9260 would offer a stronger signal for my office wireless setup.

I work from home, and our Spectrum router/modem is upstairs, while my office is downstairs and triangularly away from the Spectrum unit; also, the downstairs has a concrete infrastructure (sort of like a bunker, but not really). I have noticed that depending upon where I am downstairs, my wireless bars vary from 4 to 5 (or fewer if the gods so decree). So a steady, strong, stable wireless card and connection would be a great help to me.

I e-mailed Donald that if the 9260 is a true step up, I'd like to upgrade to that (it's only $10 more). But when Donald and I spoke after he received my post, he offered his opinion: for signal strength under my particular working circumstances, and given my needs, the Killer 1535 (possibly the 1555, but he hasn't really worked with it yet) would be the better choice.

Well...I heard what he said, and I more than respect his opinion, but I'm still nervous about Killer--and now I'm concerned that I may be totally off base about being nervous!

Which brings me full circle: I've gone back to all the different forums and computer community sites I visited to see if these were all old posts or whatever. But no: several were from the past six to eight months. So all I got for my research effort was a headache.

For those of you who have worked (are still working) with Killer on an MSI unit similar to the one I will be getting--GS63 STEALTH-061 15.6-inch--any input would massively appreciated!

Thank you!

(Off to find some aspirin...)

 

I've tried them all with the exception of the Killer 1550 which I should receive in the next 10 days hopefully from HIDevolution as I've ordered it from them.

First off, the Intel cards are not short of issues, if you install the bloated Intel PRO-Set utility which is the main download available, then this might happen: Apps not loading on startup in Windows 10 [SOLVED]

Secondly, forget about bars, with the Intel cards, I would get 4 bars, which is 2 bars above what I get with the Killer from that bar perspective BUT, and this is a big BUT, when I check my connection speed with the Intel, it fluctuates between 172MBPS to 390 MBPS severely impacting my internet connection's download speed. You see, I have a 100MBPS down/20MBPS up connection. With the the Intel, because of the sucky speeds that it connects to the router at, I barely get 20MBPS download as if I were connected to the 2.4GHz band rather than the 5GHz band. My router is only 10 feet away from me but it's sitting in a little storage room with a wooden door behind it, then my room has a door, the Intel's signal is so bad it can't penetrate those walls properly, imagine how it'd be if you had concrete walls a story above!?

While I was an Anti-Killer Networking person in the past, back then when I used to have BSODs if I installed their Killer Performance Suite which managed the bandwidth allocation for apps to ensure all apps have enough bandwidth depending on their priority levels which you can define, then I had the card disable itself when I am downloading so many items at once which was a very common issue all across the Alienware / Dell forums back then, these issues were all ironed out and the drivers are very stable now. I've not had one disconnection in the year that I've owned this laptop and always get a steady 866MBPS connection to my router and get the full speed that my ISP has given me downloads wise.

From what you described, you'd be lucky if you can even see a signal with that Intel card from that range behind concrete walls

This is what makes Killer's Range superior. Especially if you have one of the new routers which support MU-MIMO:

 

Good morning, everyone!

I’m moving my query (I still have questions!) to a thread of its own so that I do not continue to hijack this one. More courteous, I think.

Thanks!

 

just my 2 cents, regarding my killer wifi card I removed their software, I only have the driver installed, did that the first day, I had a BSOD playing witcher 3 because of their software....but after more than one year without the "killer suite" ( stability killer suite ?) I'm more than happy with the killer wifi card, never had one problem afterward : install the latest drivers, remove the killer suite and it should help.

I also exclusively use 5Ghz wifi, 2.4Ghz are SATURATED in my area and are known to be slower and less reliable. Try using 5Ghz or invest in a cheap (but from a good brand, I have an ASUS one it's ok) 5ghz router if you are still using 2.4Ghz.


Intel + Killer that should be great imho , maybe in my future volta notebook ^^ (come on Nvidia we're waiting )

 

I don’t get it. My 9260 arrived and it only has two antenna connections. How was it supposed to achieve 1300 MBits on the 5 GHz band? It’s the same speed as my old 7265. My router supports 1300 MBits, how can I connect to it with full speed and not only 866?

Regards

 

Intel 9260 can achieve its maximum theoretical connection speed of 1.7 Gbps by using 160MHz channels rather than 80MHz channels of previous cards like 7260 or 8260.
That means you have to have a router that supports 160MHz channels (either straight 160MHz or 80+80Mhz) - list of those is at this point very short and prices are very steep.

As for cards with 3 antennas - I guess you can forget that - adding more antennas to mobile devices was always frowned upon by manufacturers so there is a solution they are going to like much more.

 

Thank you

 

On the land no problem. Near a harbour or a military installation you'll get lots of radar activities and all DFS channels will soon have to be avoided by your access point. So that might bring you down to an 80 MHz pretty quickly. Which is not bad anyway.

 

Yeah, smart devices like vacuum cleaners and lamps typically utilize 2.4 because of range.

 

Oh well, the list is long, indoor, outdoor, so many issues you might and will encounter.
See a few I got in a harbour. A nice mess when trying to deploy a hotspot.
https://imgur.com/a/xsBea

Ciao

 

the killer 1550 is the same card as the Intel 9260 and it is made by Intel but with added function of the the killer suite (pretty much useless)