Trying to setup home network for someone that I know of.

Hello.
I was trying to setup home network for someone that I have known for long time.
I tried plan it.
Tell me how this looks:
Home Network Plan
A Basement (For Family Members and relatives)
1 Cable TV
2 Cable Modem (Cable Internet)
3 Wireless Router (Wireless Broadband Router)
a Port 1 goes to “Windows Home Server” for Family.
b Port 2 goes to “Main Switch 1” for “2nd Floor (For Parents and their “pretty close” friends)”.
c Port 3 goes to “Main Switch 3” for “Basement (For Family Members and Relatives)”
d Port 4 goes to “Main Switch 2” for “1st Floor (For Anyone/Guests)”
4 Main Switch 3
a Port 1 of “Switch 1” goes to “PC (HTPC) (Family)”.
b Port 2 of “Switch 1” goes to “”.
c Port 3 of “Switch 1” goes to “PC (Relatives)”.
d Port 4 of “Switch 1” goes to “Printer (Relatives)”
e Port 5 of “Switch 1” goes to “WAP 3”.
B 1st Floor (For Anyone/Guests)
1 “Main Switch 2”
a Port 1 goes to “PC (Anyone/Guests)”
b Port 2 goes to “Printer (Anyone/Guests)”
c Port 3 goes to “WAP 2”, Wireless Access Point 2
d Port 4 goes to
e Port 5 goes to
2 “WAP 2”
a “Laptop (Anyone/Guests)”
b “Laptop (Anyone/Guests)”
C 2nd Floor (For Parents and their “pretty close” friends)
1 “Main Switch 1”
a Port 1 goes to “PC (Dad)”
b Port 2 goes to “Printer (Dad)”
c Port 3 goes to “PC (Mom)”
d Port 4 goes to “Printer (Mom)”
e Port 5 goes to “WAP 1”, Wireless Access Point 1
f Port 6 goes to “Main Switch 4” on “3rd Floor (For chiefs, butlers, maids and etc....)”
h Ports 7-8 goes to “No Where”
2 “WAP 1”
a “Laptop (Dad)”
b “Laptop (Mom)”
D 3rd Floor (For chiefs, butlers, maids and etc....)
1 “Main Switch 4”
a Port 1 goes to “PC (Chief)”
b Port 2 goes to “PC (Chief)”
c Port 3 goes to “PC (Chief)”
d Port 4 goes to “PC (Chief)”
e Port 5 goes to “PC (Chief)”
f Port 6 goes to “Printer (Chief)”
g Port 7 goes to “Printer (Chief)”
h Port 8 goes to “Printer (Chief)”
i Port 9 goes to “Printer (Chief)”
j Port 10 goes to “Printer (Chief)”
k Port 11 goes to “PC (Butler)”
l Port 12 goes to “PC (Butler)”
m Port 13 goes to “PC (Butler)”
n Port 14 goes to “PC (Butler)”
o Port 15 goes to “PC (Butler)”
p Port 16 goes to “Printer (Butler)”
q Port 17 goes to “Printer (Butler)”
r Port 18 goes to “Printer (Butler)”
s Port 19 goes to “Printer (Butler)”
t Port 20 goes to “Printer (Butler)”
u Port 21 goes to “PC (Maid)”
v Port 22 goes to “PC (Maid)”
w Port 23 goes to “PC (Maid)”
x Port 24 goes to “PC (Maid)”
y Port 25 goes to “PC (Maid)”
z Port 26 goes to “Printer (Maid)”
Port 27 goes to “Printer (Maid)”
Port 28 goes to “Printer (Maid)”
Port 29 goes to “Printer (Maid)”
Port 30 goes to “Printer (Maid)”
Port 31 goes to “WAP 4”, Wireless Access Point 4
Port 32 goes to “Main Switch 5” on “4th Floor (For Kids and their "pretty close" friends)”
Ports 33-48 goes to “No Where”
2 “WAP 4”
a “Laptop (Butler)”
b “Laptop (Butler)”
c “Laptop (Butler)”
d “Laptop (Butler)”
e “Laptop (Butler)”
f “Laptop (Chief)”
g “Laptop (Chief)”
h “Laptop (Chief)”
i “Laptop (Chief)”
j “Laptop (Chief)”
k “Laptop (Maid)”
l “Laptop (Maid)”
m “Laptop (Maid)”
n “Laptop (Maid)”
o “Laptop (Maid)”
E 4th Floor (For Kids and their "pretty close" friends)
1 “Main Switch 5”
a Port 1 goes to “PC (Kid 1)”
b Port 2 goes to “Printer (Kid 1)”
c Port 4 goes to “PS3 (Kid 1)”
d Port 5 goes to “X-BOX 360 (Kid 1)”
e Port 6 goes to “Wii (Kid 1)”
f Port 7 goes to “PC (Kid 2)”
g Port 8 goes to “Printer (Kid 2)”
h Port 9 goes to “PS3 (Kid 2)”
i Port 10 goes to “X-BOX 360 (Kid 2)”
j Port 11 goes to “Wii (Kid 2)”
k Port 12 goes to “WAP 5”, Wireless Access Point 5
l Port 13-16 goes to “No Where”
2 “WAP 5”
a “PSP (Kid 1)”
b “Laptop (Kid 1)”
c “Xbox 360 (Kid 1)”
d “PSP (Kid 2)”
e “Laptop (Kid 2)”
f “Xbox 360 (Kid 2)”

 

Umm... I guess it looks okay.

 

I am honestly speachless

 

anyone think this home networking will be working fine?

 

Um.. invest in wireless printers? If you drew a diagram/chart this would be a lot easier.

 

no one is going to have a look at your text description.

the only way to make sense of it will be to draw a good picture (YOURSELF) and post it here.

 

I would not connect switch to switch unless these are low use areas. I prefer to take everything back to the main when ever possiable. I think you did that for the most part. If price is no option I would go a Fiber backbone.

 

Like these pictures?

 

Oh, ok.
Then, I should use the switch in place of wireless router?

 

Are you doing something like this? If so, the topology is fine.
No need for fiber unless the runs between switches/router are greater than 100 meters.

 

Yeah.
Something similar.
The house is Basement to 4th floor.
And each floor has at least 8 rooms.

 

I would not daisy chain the switches. If one goes down you loose every thing connected to it. I would use a SMB Class wired (8port) router as the main router. Then connect all switches to it and NAS's and printers. One that does VPN Endpoint would be a good choice it you need outside access. This type of VPN allows connection to the router. From there you can see everything like you were there. Most of the SMB can handle 5 clients with out many issues, provided the uplink speed is sufficent to make it usable (not like a dialup connection).

 

Oh, ok.

For basement and first floor, there is printers for guest and relatives, which will be putting on different network.

And all other floors, i will make it separate network, cause he wants to do that.

So, basically, as what u wrote, I got to use the main 8 port router, connect the 5 switches on each port of 8 port router, and connect Windows Home Server to that port of router.
Is that what you mean by?

 

update your drawings and post them

 

What you mean by that?

 

as you change your network layout, redraw the layout and post the updated image here.

 

Oh, ok.
I will do that and post it.

*Updated: Here are two screen-shot for now.

 

Posted updated picture on above reply

 

Is your ISP supplying IP's for all of your Equipment?????

I would use a Router (wired 8port) after the modem, then connect all switches into it. A router will give you some layer of protection against the Bad guys running loose on the www.

 

Lol, it's not mine who am i doing.
It's someone's that I know of for longtime.
And his ISP will supply IP's for his equipment.
Oh, so, use wired 8 port router.
Ok.

 

WIFI for the whole house ftw.

 

Thanks for reply.
The thing is using wifi for whole house, that has basement-4th floor, each floor has at least 8 room.
And having connect the people more then 30 people using Internet.
That won't be good idea for WIFI for the whole house, right?

 

Since he is going to have seperate networks for different floors, I would use smart switches. This way you can have VLAN's to isolate users and it will make adding and removing a little easier if for some reason he needs to do some mixing.

Looks like you have a pretty good handle on it. I would only use SMB or Full commercial equipment. It will cost a little more but in the long run I will be trouble free for it's life. Check to see if they will need outside access, away on a trip. If this is the case you may want a VPN Wired router for the front in to handle the vpn. You can always add it in later if needed. I checked on VPN with GigE and netgear only had 1 and it was a 4 port but had a dual WAN GigE for rollover during a failure. It handled 50 VPN tunnels. I use a FVS338 which is still made and work great but does not have GigE. It's big brother FVS538 has dual LAN where the back up lan on the 338 is ADSL Dialup port.

Most all routers support VPN Port forward, this will only support 1 user and only access to that single pc. The reason I like the Endpoint VPN, gives you full access to the whole network....

It looks like a nice business setup for a very large house.

 

keep it simple...... who is going to maintain it when things break or need to change.

 

I can't keep it simple, there are more then 35 computers in one normal residential house that he, his family, his employees live in.
And I will be maintain mostly.

 

Oh, ok.
Then what should I use for Cable Modem?
And it is ok to use mixture brands of Networking devices?
Cause some device, I want to use Linksys/Cisco and Netgear, because of feature of networking devices.
And which one is and has Endpoint VPN?

 

simple in terms of no cascaded switches, no vlans, no overly complex ip addressing or dhcp setups.

 

Oh, ok.
But problem is like that much Desktops that has to be connected to Internet, that I originally posted on my begining thread of this.
right?

 

the number of clients you have listed is no problem if you have a good quality core switch/router that feeds distro switches on each floor or concentration of users.

As everyone here has said, never, ever cascade switches if you can possibly avoid it.

 

Ok.
But, I gotta put them into groups,
Family, relatives, guests, employees.
So that Only each floor can use own floor's network.
And I dont know what is cascade switches anyway lol

 

Well, at this point you've demonstrated that you don't have the basic knowledge necessary to do this job. Either the installation or the necessary on-going maintenance.

Better find/hire someone locally to do it, and do it right the first time.

Otherwise you stand the risk of disappointing a lot of people and looking foolish.

You can only do so much via a web forum.

 

Darn it.
Something is weird

 

Ok.
I don't know why but people keep telling me that.
If I would call people to do it, i wouldn't have asked all these here.......
I don't know why people wouldn't think of this....
This is like not just this forum, any other forums too.
Even though I put the situation that this person, he that I'm trying to help, have known me even before I was born and write the fact that he would never get disappointed and such such.
I keep telling people more then 100 times about this.
Thanks anyway.
This thread is now answered or what ever you guys put it as.

 

Sounds like it was more like a homework assignment for a networking class

Either way... the way I would do it.

Juniper firewall and router with different zones. Trunk to each switch on each floor. Then access ports from there for the various devices on each floor. All access control is done through the juniper. You could also go into private VLANs but I wont get into that.

gig eth should be fine for the trunks to each switch. 100 eth should be fine to each network drop unless you really want gig.

no need for fiber unless we are talking 300-350 feet or so, and even then loss is not critical.

 

Juniper?
I never heard of it.
Which Juniper firewall should I use?
I'm sure there are lots of different kinds?

 

Juniper is not as well known as Cisco or foundry. But they offer some very cool products. Level 3 runs them on their core network in areas.

SSG140 Secure Services Gateway - Medium Branch Network Security Platform - Juniper Networks

SSG would be a good series for what you are trying to accomplish. the 140 is a mid range model, ssg5 being the lower end model

 

So, you recommended this one as router or switch right after cable modem, right?
Cause I could only use this one as that purpose, since there are lots of computers, I would need the switch that has a lot more ports for 1st-4th floor.
And oh, this is the 100MB ones, not gigabit.
I think he gotta have gigabit ones.