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    Modern Warfare 3 Steam Download $26.99

    Discussion in 'Notebook and Tech Bargains' started by iLLuSi0N, Nov 13, 2011.

  1. iLLuSi0N

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    does developox provide insurance if the key is deactivated as with modern warfare 2?

    edit: I might buy this if I get a response from developox
     
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    Yes I think they do, but am not sure, ask them and reply here. I know they guarantee that your key will not get banned. They refunded me when they were not able to provide multi-language brink key that I had pre-ordered. Ended up getting a 10% discount coupon from them as compensation.

    I only buy my games from them unless they don't have a game I am looking for and they always give me special discounts. Yet to have a problem with any game.

    There response time is fairly good via email. I haven't had much interaction with the live support they just started, it wasn't working on my browser for some reason.
     
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    Well I just paid. I will see how this goes.

    Skyrim is only $27.99, but you have to activate it in a weird way.

    Crazy stuff.
     
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    ValkerieFire how did it go?
     
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    I am downloading it via Steam now. The code activated without issue, but it took me awhile to figure the russian IP disguise.

    Basically you get a 24 hour free pass to hideme.ru (russian website), then download a program called Open VPN, then copy the russian profiles in, the run it as an administrator (this is what I forgot to do and it hung me up for 30 minutes), the connect to the Russian IP address, the re-open steam and activate. Then you are done.

    I am downloading now. I will update when I know it works, but so far all looks good.

    UPDATE:

    Installed without issues. The menus and audio are all in English. I didn't get a chance to test the game play, but all seems well so far. I will update more when I get back on Tuesday.
     
  7. flynnaz

    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    I just bought it $24.99, I am having Developox activate it for me, we will see how this works.
     
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    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    All done, dowloading game, took 15 mins tops, thanks for the post iLLoSION. I changed my steam password already too.
     
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    Let me know how yours works. I only got to play one MP game for a few seconds, but my frame rate was 24 fps despite having a powerful GPU. I think it is something I can fix, but until I won't e able to work on it till tomorrow.

    Ate you having any issues?
     
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    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    I had to goto work, it was downloading when I left, I installed both the SP and MP. If this works, I will buy all my games this way. I saved $35.00! :)
     
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    flynnaz I am a Night Elf Mohawk!

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    Just a FYI,
    You should edit this, take off "Today Only", and replace with "until it ends", and the price I paid was $24.99

    also, you can have Developox active the game for you in just a few mins, if you feel comfortable. I just changed my steam password right after the game was activated. Developox was very responsive, like I said, within 15 mins I was downloading MW3 English version, I did not need to do anything special.
     
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    That sounds great. I might try this out...but i'm tempted to wait till black friday/cyber monday to see if they have their own deals.
     
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    I'll be getting my games from here from now on :)

    Thanks Illusion!
     
  14. iLLuSi0N

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    It said on their facebook page, that it was for Sunday only. The price keeps on fluctuating so I can't help it. It's now $25.99 so I have updated it.


    You're welcome!
     
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    The game works just fine, no issues, other than I stink :)
     
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    Cool that is good news. Mine must having a graphics setting that is causing my card to have issues. I will fix it tomorrow and report back.
     
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    Hmm, not going to say this was a bad idea or a bad deal just that I would be quite weary of buying a game that requires me to falsify my location/ip to activate it.

    Its one thing to buy a game from another regon and play/use it in another location. If the game can activate for your current region that means its allowed.

    But to have to mask your IP and use a VPN and all that pretty much makes it sound like your doing something against terms of use and if somebody so decided to track you down for it and ban your game or account I think they would have all the capability to do so.
     
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    So if I visit another country I am not allowed to buy a game there?

    Yes the games are meant for sale in a different region but the whole point of using a VPN is so you don't break any terms. A VPN saves you money so you never actually have to buy a ticket to another country, instead use a computer in that country to activate the game, then come back home and play the game since it's allowed and no rules are broken. :)
     
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    Buying a game from this place is akin to buying a grey-market camera. You can often find a knock-down price, but it's a gamble in terms of what you might end up getting in the end.

    I'm glad it's working for those of you who've bought it. Being one of those "you get what you pay for" types, I'm not so comfortable with it.
     
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    All these key stores sell legitimate games. It's all about knowing what you're buying. I have been buying keys for more than 3 years and I have had keys banned and inquired to find out that they were stolen keys and that's the reason they were removed from my steam account. Choose a trusted seller, stick to them and you won't have any problems. The keys come from dvds and these key stores buy disks and only sell the license on them.

    "You get what you pay for", you're paying $59.99 for a copy at walmart/gamestop/amazon who buy it for $26, you can find these key stores selling US copies in $30's- $40's range. You cannot apply "You get what you pay for" here as you're paying for the same item in most cases, it's just about paying wholesale price or full price. With russian versions I will agree that you're not getting the same thing but the rest of the games are exactly the same. I bought command & conquer 4 and mass effect 2 from them a long time back, still have it in my EA account along with all the other games I bought from them. Till date I never had problems with a single one of those games and I know a lot of people who have purchased from key stores and never had problems.

    Whenever they sell a game saying region restricted or russian, I make sure to ask them the details about it so I know what i am getting into and what kind of support they will provide.

    saturnotaku I am not sure if you actually had a bad experience or heard someones tale, I buy a lot of games and would never have posted if they were not safe.
     
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    Your kind of missing the whole point I made.

    It WOULD be ok if you were in that region phisically and purchased a game if that game has multi region rights. But using VPN you are not in that region, you are falsifying it.

    So your probably breaking some terms and liable to get in trouble for it be it just UELA or otherwise.

    If the game didn't have some terms like this they probably would not have it region locked to activate in the first place.

    I have a Russian key for BF3 and you can activate it in America, there was no VPN trickery needed thus I didnt try to hide anything and have no worries.

    I didn't make any statement that said you will have problems or get in trouble or even that you are breaking any terms and conditions I simply hinted it could be a possibility.
     
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    You bring up a good point, you have a Russian Key for BF3 which is not a Steam product, I am thinking the VPN is used more for Steam to allow the game to be activated. I live right next to Mexico, old timers go across the border daily to buy prescription medicine saving themselves money , I see this as something like that. If you can buy a product cheaper from another outlet, you will. At lest we are not talking about hacking the game its self or finding a way to get this game for free. I truly get your point, but I see the only rule being broke here is the game producers sales policy, and for that I have no problem searching for the best deal I can find in this global economy in which I also lose money I invest in countries I do not live in. :) Just saying ;)

    I did have Delopox activate my key for me also, they were quick and professional too. I changed my steam password right after just in case.
     
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    I fixed my FPS issue. As expected the game was trying to use the IGP, not my 580m (dam you Optimus!). Game runs fine now at max setting up 90fps. Graphics suck compared to BF3. Very few servers in my area with pings <100. Kinda disappointing as a game.

    As far as developox goes, I think it is a good deal. This title will cost $60 for the next year. I would NEVER play it at all if I didn't get it at this price ($25). So in that sense, they are making more $$$ out of me this way. If my code gets canceled, I won't throw a fit about it.
     
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    For games like Skyrim, if the key gets cancelled it doesn't matter because it is a single player game, but on a multiplayer, that would suck
     
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    IMO, it should be illegal for companies to prevent you from using something you legally purchased just because of where you're located. If they choose to sell it somewhere for a lower price, they should have to deal with cheapskates taking advantage.
     
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    I bought it. I also saw a sealed copy of MW3 go for $36.50 on eBay for you more legit types.
     
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    Agreed, corporate greed is why it's done though.

    I just bought saints row from them and I think its the US version. For the money I would have spent on modern warfare 3 at gamestop, I bought mw3, bf3 and saints row. Totally worth it.
     
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    I agree. I'm not willing to risk losing $25, let alone possibility of my entire Steam account to save $25 or wait a few months to get it for $25 legit. I think locking it to regions is stupid too, but they have a much bigger hammer than you...
     
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    Considering new, sealed retail copies are going for $35-40, it makes this risk even less worth taking.
     
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    Create a new account for these games, that's what I did when I first started buying these keys, even though nothing has happened to my steam account in the last 2 years but even if something did, buying a key paid off.

    Legally Steam cannot ban me because they have no proof that I did not purchase the dvd from within Russia and activated it there while being there. The keys come from retail boxes and as long as it says retail with the name under my steam account, i am confident that it will not get banned.

    I have bought 20+ games in the past 2 years with most of them costing around $59 in the US and I ended up buying from key stores for around 32-35 or less. My savings are as below:

    20 x 59 = $1180
    20 x 33 = $660
    Total savings = $520 (An ipad)

    Plus I don't play any of the old games so they just sit in my account.
     
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    This is precisely the issue. You're paying a partial price for the game with some risk of the key being deactivated. It's never the same item. It's always a russian region key. The end result MIGHT be the same, if you can get around the language hump AND if your key doesn't get deactivated, but it isn't the same item. This is one of the best examples of you get what you pay for. You pay less, and absorb some risk with your purchase that would not have existed if you had paid more.

    It would still matter. The keys aren't being banned as in cheat-protection-no-access-to-online-protected-servers. They are being deactivated as in no-access-to-game.
     
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    In any case I have a feeling this game will go for about $40 with Steam's Black Friday/Cyber Monday sale.
     
  34. iLLuSi0N

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    It's not always a russian key, yes mostly russian with big games like cod or bf. The stock prices in the US are not that high, I heard modern warfare 3 stock was $33 on release for walmart and now it's $29. [Gossip I heard from a friend who works there, if anyone knows better go ahead.]

    I have confirmed with EA for all my ea games that is, that my games are completely legitimate, I did not mention that I just bought the keys :) and yes they are US region.
     
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    Obviously it's possible to buy a US key. The point is, if the region isn't specified and you just buy a key from someone, you are taking on all sorts of risks that don't exist when you buy from a retail store or from steam. That's why you get what you pay for.

    You can pay less and have more risk, or pay more and have less risk. Activision deactivated a ton of Modern warfare 2 russian keys. They weren't stolen, they just figured out which chunk of keys were being resold in the USA and deactivated those keys.

    Valve did the same thing with TF2 (before it went F2P).

    We all may make different choices based on our perceptions of risk (it isn't set as if you were playing roulette) and our risk preferences (you might prefer a one shot chance at 50% for 10 million dollars vs. a 99% chance at 4 million dollars - it depends on who you are).

    Given that the previous game in the series under the same publisher had a mass russian key deactiviation, I consider the risk pretty high. You may not. Even with the risk, the price difference may be enough to push you. For others, such as myself, it is not.
     
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    Yes but I don't think there's any risk since your game cannot be removed as they cannot prove that you bought just a key without the disks. These games are not region locked, the activation of some of them is, there's a difference.

    If the game is region locked, you cannot play it unless your ip is russian, no matter what. If the activation is region locked that means steam allows you to play it from outside the region but you have to buy and activate the game inside the region and if it's region free, you can activate from where ever you like.

    Like Elder scrolls V, which I didn't buy, is region locked, steam will not let you download the game from a different ip, so you have to use a vpn everytime you want access to the game.

    Modern warfare 3: Activation is locked only, you have to be in Russia to activate, then you can play from all over the world and its allowed by steam (no restrictions).

    Modern warfare 2: Region free, you can activate and play from anywhere but the game will be Russian cut version, which only allows russian language.

    I never buy region locked games since downloading them using a VPN is a pain and I have to end up downloading it elsewhere or borrow a copy.

    yeah I remember the TF2 fiasco, those were region locked keys and a very similar story with left 4 dead. They got blocked because they were region locked, but steam got a very bad rep for that. Once again i don't think you get why they got banned.

    2 different kinds of keys, retail and non-retail. Change ip visit steam and make a cheap purchase, you will get banned when you change the region. Go to Russia or buy a retail key belonging to a physical dvd, cannot get banned.
     
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    As I said before, your perception of the risk is clearly different than mine.
     
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    Yes they were stolen, since I bought 1 of those from a key seller I am strongly against now. He replaced every time it would get revoked and I would get another key to add to my account and play the game. I realized the key was from China/Hong kong region so I changed my ip using VPN to hongkong. Didn't help, ended up getting removed everytime. I got at least 10 replacements for the key trying to figure out whats causing the ban. left him bad feedback on google checkout after which he would replace the key, finally opted for a refund. Anyways they were stolen otherwise they would have worked from hong kong.

    That was the first time I bought a Russian key since no russian key had been revoked. The reason I found out from developox was that they are retail keys and what other sellers were selling were stolen keys. The only statement that was made by steam was on steam forums which said ask for a refund from the seller and don't buy keys.

    Well said and I totally agree :cool: .

    Misleading and wrong. No russian key was deactivated since steam themselves had allowed the purchase but put a language restriction on it. The keys that got revoked were English keys from hong kong. russian keys could not have been revoked or there would have been an incident recorded. Only VAC bans were reported on steam for using hack tools on russian keys, like aimbots etc.

    I guess so :rolleyes:
     
  39. flynnaz

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    Like I said before, we are in a global market with everything now days, I base risk off past history. In this case, the risk is low. MW3 in this case needed to be activated from Russia because of Steam not the game it's self. The game it's self is unmodified, no hack involved. Steam is a world wide company, and must allow sales like this, it would be impossible to judge who really bought what where. I have not seen where keys from this source have had issues in it's history.

    One more thing, I am sure the percentage of keys being sold this way is so small, the time to really investigate, rationalize and come up with a solution to a self made catch 22, is hardly worth it.
     
  40. iLLuSi0N

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    Price Update:

    Call of Duty mw3

    It's $24.99 + 5% Facebook coupon

    Total = $23.75


    The problem is that anyone can buy the game and sell just the key instead of shipping the entire box. People in Australia and most of Europe buy the same games for at least $10 more than customers in the US, considering store prices. If we buy the game at full retail price and sell the key on ebay, someone will still prefer paying more for it from France since the game is really expensive there.

    Internet kills selective pricing. You will never get a $1 2L root beer at walgreens in manhattan but you will at walgreens in brooklyn or queens. No one has the right to stop you from drinking that bottle in manhattan. :confused:
     
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    Nice deal...I would have been all over it if I wasn't in Battlefield.
     
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    It's completely fine. The internet has simplified trade, and most rulings (unless they have been lobbied for by a corporation) rule in favour of entropy. People can do whatever they want, unless they are in breach of certain laws regarding spam, actual impersonation, hacking, etc.

    The only thing you are not legally allowed to do (unless they have changed the law) is to what I believe Unblock Us - unblock your favourite video and social websites does, which is act as a DNS to make your router think they are Netflix, and then tunnel you into the site.

    I often use my Amazon AWS account to access Netflix US via proxy, but if I were to set up a DNS and have netflix.com resolve to myip.com instead, it would be illegal.
     
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    I know it's not recommended to bump an old thread but I need to hear from the guys who originally bought the game. Does it still work? No ban no lawsuit :D?

    Oh and the game is now $19 whereas it's still $59 on steam.
     
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    Mine still works, I think I paid around $35. Should have waited.
     
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    This is true, but it doesn't correlate to the current state of intellectual property licensing. In the general case, the IP owner can tell you where, when, and how you are allowed to access the content they own, if you buy a license for it under a certain set of terms.