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    Spray Painting Question(s)

    Discussion in 'Notebook Cosmetic Modifications and Custom Builds' started by Gautam, May 13, 2007.

  1. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    1) Are the Krylon Fusion series spray paints a pigment+primer, or is the primer a separate coat?

    2) Does it matter if I use 400 or 500 or 800 grit sandpaper for removing the previous paint (which is peeling)?
     
  2. Circa69

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    Krylon fusion does not need primer on plastics, it has a bonding agent in the paint.

    Use the finest grit that seems to be working. For example if the 800 is removing the paint then use it, or move to a courser grit if it does not seem to be taking it off. This will minimize the chance of taking off too much (plastic) and also minimize the amount of finish sanding you have to do.
     
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    Yup, I would have said the same thing.

    By the way, is there a discount if I buy more than 1 poke shield! ;)
     
  4. Gautam

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    Thanks. So the suggestion is to NOT use a Primer, right? DO you guys advise against the Fusion in place of the Primer+Normal Spray instead? What gets better results...?
     
  5. Circa69

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    sorry, gonna use fusion for the first time on my averatec so I don't know

    I do however highly recommend clear.
     
  6. Gautam

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    So I'd need A PRIMER for clear?
     
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    Nope, clear goes on top of the paint. It is just what it sounds like, clear paint to protect the colored paint, usually a much harder and more durable mix. I am going to use Krylon acrylic Crystal Clear on top of the Fusion color.

    BTW- Clear comes in clear (or crystal clear) for a high gloss finish and satin for a duller or non reflective finish.
     
  8. Gautam

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    Thanks a bunch for guiding a newbie through this. I'm going to do this project next month.

    Do I sand the pigment coat(s), or just the clear coats (or both)? I realize now that I don't need a primer...so I guess it's just a pigment + bunch of clear coats.
     
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    On automotive covering I would recommend wet sanding but i don't know for the fusion. I do not plan on sanding when I do it but that may change when I see how it is going on.
     
  10. Gautam

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    Circa, sorry to bug you again!

    I spoke with the lady at the painting dept at Ace Hardware, and she said that with Krylon Fusion, you don't need a primer OR clear coats on top.

    Is that true? I'd rather take your word for it, but she sounded so certain and the Krylon cans say "primer mixed in" or something. She said that the clear isn't needed since Fusion won't peel or lift off.
     
  11. Circa69

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    Yep, no primer needed and I am not sure if it really needs a clear but the one I used had a flat finish and I wanted gloss.
     
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    I've used Krylon Fusion on my laptop. I strongly recommend a clear coat. The paint is starting to wear off on my laptop where my hands rest. I don't think I would have this issue if I had a clear coat. Now, for clarification, I actually used texture paint and it is the texture that is wearing off. The color is still there and there is no evidence anywhere of it chipping.

    In all honesty, I think you could probably get the best finish with automotive paint, but it will also take a lot longer. Just my two cents.
     
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    does painting it void your warranty?I would imagine that it does haha.
     
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    I would imagine so. Especially considering you have to take your notebook apart to do it. Not positive though.
     
  15. Gautam

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    Thank you SO much! Your experience saved me a lot of mental agony. :)

    Great news. It's one less thing to buy. Thanks Circa!

    Yes, it would. I would not engage in a paint job on a machine that is still under warranty.
     
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    Exactly, mine is textured as well. Not only does the gloss look great I bet it will add to the life of the paintjob.

    No, legally they can not void your warranty (in the US) for a cosmetic mod, or arbitrarily void it for anything else for that matter. You can however run into a situation where you have to fight to get them to honor it. Even tho you have the law on your side it can be an uphill battle.

    I have posted lots of posts about mods vs warranty. While not a lawyer I have personally been involved in several warranty issues and have done a ton of research. I will post a warrranty thread and link it from the cosmetics resource section when I get a chance.
     
  17. Gautam

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    Wow. I was totally wrong then. My bad. :eek:

    But I thought that opening up the heatsink (which I guess you DON't have to do) immediately voids a warranty.
     
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    I just re painted my Acer Aspire 3610 with Krylon Fusion black. I did about 4 coats, and its very nice. I let it dry for a couple days and then i put a turtle wax on it and man did she ever shine! whooo hoooo! However, I'm super pissed with my masking abilities, lol. The shine and color is amazing, however I'm thinking of saying screw touchups cause it will look like crap, so I'm gonna just take the whole mother apart and repaint it. lol.

    I am happy with the way it bonds with no prep, which is very nice!
     
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    does the wax make the outside all slippery tho and doesnt it ware off so you have to rewax it every so often?

    Just comes to mind, I waxed my truck and the wifes care the other day, and I can notice the strange feel when i get in and out of the car just touching the waxed surface. I dont think I would like that for a notebook and would be afraid of it comming off on my hands or the bag I put it in.


    Maybe try a nice sanding (wet sanding probably) then a coat of clear coating paint would give a similar shine with none of the negatives?? thats my guess im not a painter :p
     
  20. Gautam

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    Guys, what the point of waxing your lappy? (We ARE talking car wax, right? Turtle Wax...) Won't the wax just lift off due to your palms/hands being on the laptop? I don't see the point...
     
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    Wax will improve the depth and shine and help with imperfections (swirl marks). It is also another layer against wear. I wax the lid and palms of my Asus.
     
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    I am assuming you are using car wax, and if so, do you find any particular brand to be best?
     
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    I have always used Meguiars on my car. I just used the same on the notebook. Works well just be careful not to get it on the delicate bits.
     
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    I personally would use automotive paint to paint my laptop, but I'm a professional painter and have all of the equipment to do it. I'd definitely clear coat it even if I used the Krylon Fusion paints. But I don't think I'd go so far as to wax it.
     
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    Main reason I wax the lid is all the tiny scratches from sliding into/out of the bag. Figured go for the palms too since I was already setup. I expect it to really pay off in a couple years.
     
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    Awesome I love Meguiars wax, not to mention there other products, but I won't get started on that here. ;) It would be interesting to see how you palm rest hold up over the year having waxed it. Perhaps they won't discolor so much.
     
  27. Gautam

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    I've used Black Magic (since my car is black) and a few of the new "Nano" waxes. I find that the nano waxes aren't just a lot of bull - some of them can last weeks longer than normal waxes. I'd rather wax less if I can, but I enjoy waxing my car. :p
     
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    Yea, the nano waxes should work a bit better. With the nano size particles, you should be able to fill smaller and smaller cracks and pits in the clear coat, leading to a smoother finish. I haven't tried a nano wax yet just because we have some much wax to use up first before we buy anymore. ;)