Apple Introduces The Game-Changing iPad Discussion

woot? FAIL

 

You mean re-entrance? Or did you forget about the ibooks and powerbooks?

 

Like I was saying before the release - way, way, overhyped. I would much rather take a netbook over this, and for $499, one could even get a nice CULV or laptop.

 

Those are made by IBM/Motorola not Apple

 

Orly? I thought they were outsourced, but still developed by Apple?

 

Will it work with tMobile?

 

Not really! PowerPC's are created by APPLE/IBM/Motorola alliance. Actually based on IBM Power architecture.

 

yeah. It's unlocked. but need MicroSIM

 

if an iphone can use a regular sim so can the iphail

 

Micro SIM

It's smaller than traditional SIM card, so your carrier needs to provide you new format SIM card.

 

Close enough I suppose, depends on how you look at it.

 

i know i was making the point that there is no reason for a micro sim card since people already have sim cards and they shouldn't have to pay a $100 micro sim activation fee then $30/month unlimited data when they've already got a data plan on their phones that they can use.

 

In that case you are out of luck.

 

Nah, Apple has no chance at handheld device CPU. And you forgot ARM.

Anyway, this is just lame. Replacing netbook eh? Well, as much as I hate the netbooks, it at least offers a keyboard, a decend OS and capable of doing multitask, and has much much better expansion (aka ports!!!)

 

Where are the iPants, with pockets big enough to hold the thing?

I'm not sure what people were expecting, maybe it WAS overhyped. I think it is an interesting product, but in my mind I would not consider it as a replacement for a real computer, maybe not even for a netbook. So I don't think it is a total fail, it's just meant to be something else and it's too early to know if it will work as that something else.

I think it will be successful as a toy or entertainment device- for people to play games on, to play videos on, surf the net, things like that. People will text and IM on it. There are a lot of people that will buy it for that, and I don't discount the attraction of the apps store for people that want to have fun with it. I think without the apps store there wouldn't be that many people interested in the iphone.

I don't expect people to use it for serious typing, but with the addition of the keyboard it could be used for light typing for homework and so forth. I have plenty of laptops so I would not want one to replace a laptop, but I think a lot of people that don't need to do a lot of serious typing would get by fine with it.

I worry about the big unprotected screen. I think the device should have come with a USB port and with front-firing speakers. I don't know how crippled it will be by not being able to multitask. My personal idea is for the accessory keyboard to be similar in size to the tablet itself, and fold up like a normal laptop to allow you to carry it as one item and protect the screen. Then if you wanted to us it like a traditional laptop you could but if you pull the top part off then you can use it like a tablet.

 

Well, I don't think i will be getting this anytime soon as it is a bit pricey and I already have an iPhone 3g. Once my contrct on my iphone runs out next year. I may look into getting a model of it. Looking at how the price went on the ipod touch and iphone, I suspect this price will drop after a several months of it being out.

But really? I have no use for a giant iPod touch, except for an eReader but I may buy the nook for that.

My eee is about 20 times more useful then this thing.

 

I do hope for change. I could care less about the iPad, but its introduction into the market might have positive affects on the netbook.

Particularly:
1. Lower prices - there is now no reason to ever go above $499 for a netbook.
2. More Atom Moorestown/Tegra 2 devices that can natively support HD video decode.
3. More touchscreens on netbooks (the Latitude 2100 netbook is an example).

Touchscreens/Trackpoint mouse would be incredibly useful on a netbook, where the size of the mousepad is often ridiculously small.

 

So... This is how it's gonna go:

This thing blows, but billions will still be sold.

 

This thing is useless.

No multitasking. No real OS. No physical keyboard. Sorry, but I'll take a Pine Trail netbook over this any day of the week.

No support for MKV. No support for rendered soft subtitles. No h.264 decoding over 720p in the main 3.1 profile, no more than 8 reference frames. Doesn't fill my niche as a media player, either (while adding a $35 Broadcom HD card quickly converts any Atom netbook into a full-blown 1080p media box).

Too big to be a viable portable gaming system. OpenPandora, PSP and NDS stomps on it for size, portability and variety of titles.

Pretty much, yeah.

 

I wonder if the iPad is more capable than the zune hd as far as horsepower goes. I assume it is, but who knows.

 

I agree with those who are disappointed with the lack of multitasking. Given that Apple had a long time to work on the device, its inexcusable, really. It's frankly a step backward.

What would be even more exciting would be a iPad that can run a tablet enabled version of OSX so real work can be done on it. Also with the ability to use a stylus to write on it. That would appeal to an even larger demographic, especially students and those in the medical profession.

Will be very interesting to see what the competing devices will have. A slate that runs Win7, has USB port and SD card slot(to use the device to better preview camera pix in the field), and has an optional armoured case/sleeve will be nice.

 

Processor wise, the iPad is definitely* more powerful than the Zune HD. The Zune HD benefits from having an auxiliary processor and a very potent GPU (in comparison to its competition). Full disclosure: I own a Zune HD and love it (for the most part). The more interesting competition will arrive when some tablets/smartbooks/MID/PMP start using Tegra 2 SoCs.

* = if it isn't, then Apple's processor must really suck. The ARM Cortex A8 (in the iPhone 3GS) is superior to the Zune HD's "ARMv6K" which is from the ARM11 family.

 

IBM should sue Apple for copyright of the word "Pad".
It's Think pad and now Apple has i Pad

 

thats quite a stretch. That lawsuit would fail miserably.

 

Man I am seriously considering the tablet just for e-books. They are sooo much less expensive than the hardbound books. Check out this video. Pretty cool, I think this is where the iPad is headed.

http://www.youtube.com/user/CourseSmart#p/a/u/0/kSjXO7Odh9E

 

When will NBR review the new Thinkpads? It's been out for a while and it would be more worthwhile to see a review for an actually laptop compared to an article for this e-reader. Don't see how it would take that long when writers can come up with an article for the iPad in such a short time frame.

 

What he said.

Sure, the IBM suit would fail miserably.

What about the Fujitsu suit?
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...-may-lead-to-trademark-feud-with-fujitsu.html

 

"Game-Changing" ????

I don't think so....

 

I wasn't expecting much from Apple's ultra-hyped tablet...

And it's even worse than I expected.

Yet... as someone said.

It blows but it's going to sell like crazy.

 

Post of the day!!!

Seriousely, it's an epic fail by Apple. Many users won't be able to hold it for 10 minutes straight.

 

The iSad I mean iPad was a big disappointment. I have the 3gs and not gonna get the iPad. For multi-tasking to not be incorporated in a 10" netbookish like device is very sad. On a phone it's passable, but not on a device like this.

Very lackluster OS. Same ole same ole. Where is the awesomeness that apple has been known for. They need to hire some more people. Add a front facing camera, give it a tweaked osX platform and add some multi-tasking for goodness sakes.

Gonna wait to see what HP Slate has to offer.

 

Thinkpad name is owned by Lenovo now.

Anyhow, iPad looks boring, the OS is boring, the feature is even less than what the iPhone 3GS..... i feel sorry for Apple this time.

 

This, i'd rather be kicked in the balls repeatedly then try to force myself to use a giant ipod touch as a netbook "replacement."

If it ran full os x, and had a usb port or two, i'd give it a go. Esp. with that keyboard docking station of sorts.

 

The Iphone OS is not the main problem...it could be a good netbook replacement with it, BUT:
- Why is it not multi tasking? Are they out of their mind, a 10" device with a HW which could easily handle multiple apps
- Why not include at least 1 USB Port. Its small, micro-USB is even smaller and would even be ok if you had to use an adapter

 

I was half-joking in case you didn't catch that.

 

Contradictory post. You say the iPhone OS isn't the main problem, when it is the iphone os that limits these features.

 

Exactly, if Apple can put an IPS screen on this at this price, why can't others do it in a "normal" computer?

 

It's just like a larger i-Phone. As others have said, what's the point?

 

Design wise it is a very nice looking device. It is a shame that it does not come with a built in webcam. For what you get i would say it was quite decently priced.

Pro's
Battery life
3G
Touch screen
Entry price

Negatives
Processor
No flash
Lack of stylus

I haven't seen a review yet of what this processor can do. A ULV would have been nice though. It is limited by the OS, may be some people might try and put an alternate OS on it. Getting everything to work though might prove to be a problem.

Also, Vaio P owners have wanted Sony to come out with a touch screen device. Hopefully this now gets them to take note.

It is a nice size and weight and good for travelling especially with that long battery life and 3G. Some people also prefer touchscreen devices and most netbooks don't offer this. Most devices like this come with quite short battery life or ugly looking extended batteries so this is a plus.

 

Well, the pros I see are:

If you're comfortable with and like the iPhone/iPod Touch OS, you'll be right at home with this thing. I Love the iPhone OS. I used to tear through Cellphones every 4-6 months because they weren't doing what I needed. I've been with iPhones for over 2yrs now and love it.

IPS Screen - This can't be hyped enough. For E-Reading and surfing, this thing is going to be luscious.

Flexible 3G data plan: The ability to whip this puppy out and have Internet access anywhere on a decent size screen truly on the go in your hands

Ergonomically space saving and the ability to type/use without needing to sit it down on your lap/table or elsewhere. Think Star Trek: TNG. If you're going to make me use a keyboard in a traditional laptop configuration, I might as well get a real laptop. This is one reason I never bought into the, "Netbook," craze. This seems to be a good compromise between a netbook and a smartphone with most of the functionality of a netbook.

Excellent E-Reader / Surfing slate. While it will play itunes apps, this thing is meant to deliver media on the go in a comfortable, convenient fashion.

Full access to the extensive iPhone/iPod apps

Battery life seems great

Passable price point, especially if you don't want 3G/Data

Love 'em or hate 'em, it's good to see Jobs back on the stage. The Apple faithful probably thought the Rapture was upon 'em.

So, as always, what do you want to do with it? The way I text away with my, "on screen," iphone 3g keyboard daily with my big neanderthal hands means the extra sized keyboard on this will be great. I suspect it will be usable in, "Thumbs enabled" mode like an iphone which makes it great for using anywhere. Unless I'm working on something specific, on the go, I do more pointing and clicking than actual protracted typing than anything.


The lack of multitasking is a major letdown in every way, shape and form, though and CPU performance is yet to be fully determined, but for what it is intended to do, hopefully it will be up to snuff.

The potential lack of real HD capabilities is a major concern. If I can't watch most of the content out there (when it is doable on a netbook and a card), that would be a deal breaker for me.

 

I agree Jerry. I am thinking the commenter was more being flip about the apparent weakness of this thing. based on the reports / announcement, I don't see this as a viable true tablet. One of the profs here (I am a PhD student) uses a 3rd party created MacBook Tablet (I forget who makes it, but you basically buy a MacBook and they mod it into a tablet) for like $3000. But, to run our stats / graphics apps I don't think this iPad thing would do.

I guess I was hoping this could have been a way for me personally to try the Mac/Apple. But, I don't care to learn the iPhone OS or watch the new Star Trek movie on a < 10" screen. The reader part is cool, but... just not enough

 

I think there is no multitasking since it is one of the features of OS 4.0, which should be introduced with new iPhone... I think apple couldn't wait longer and decided to make some temporary version till 4.0 hits... BTW, how much do ebook readers cost?

 

Apple A4 is ARM based chip. (ARM Modified By Apple Owned PA Semi Inc)

"Designed by ARM Assembled By Apple In California"

 

A4 chip is manufactured by Samsung on behalf of Apple like all other CPUs used for the latest iphone and ipod touch.

 

Ok then

"Designed By ARM For Apple In California Manufactured By Samsung In Seoul"

 

Kindle's $259

Nook is $259

Sony's Reader series is as follows:

• Reader Touch Edition- $299

• Reader Daily Edition (larger screen vertically for ideal reading of periodicals like the newspaper)- $399
• Reader Pocket Edition- $199

 

wow, lots of FAIL comments! (I agree completely).

I'll bet Apple's marketing department got this thing in there hands a couple weeks ago from the engineers and just said "you have to be kidding!" "you want us try and sell this!!"

 

Hahaha, thats just what I was thinking, Whoever wrote the title as "game-changing" seriously rethink! - This was hyped to infinity and beyond and it fails to deliver anything innovative. Generally anything with an apple logo seems to sell though, they have such great brand power that people that know nothing about computers assume apple products must be better than any other competitor. So it might still sell well.

And seriously, please tell me the purpose of this, I can't see my father sitting at home with a 10inch screen moving to each side as he plays need for speed

 

While IPS screens are great and all, it's still going to be wearing on the eyes, especially for extended usage. The e-ink screens used in some e-readers is a lot more comfortable and less strenuous. I use my tablet as an e-reader and movie watching device as I walk around, and the fact that the iPad lacks multitasking takes it off the table for me. I'll wait for the next iteration to show up.

 

I made a poll in the apple section vote!
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=454961

(I do know there will be a basis)